Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[BulldogMuscle]

I think they are looking to offer a trade in next years trade period.

The contracted to 2029, third generation, father on the board of directors, family is Bulldog royalty, Darcy who is about to have his two younger brothers join him on the team in the next 3 years, that Darcy? Sure you don't mean Darcy Moore or Sean Darcy?

You'd have better luck prying Bont out than Darcy.

Suppose all you can do is try tho, good luck to them.

 

[doggiesin08]

The contracted to 2029, third generation, father on the board of directors, family is Bulldog royalty, Darcy who is about to have his two younger brothers join him on the team in the next 3 years, that Darcy? Sure you don't mean Darcy Moore or Sean Darcy?

You'd have better luck prying Bont out than Darcy.

Suppose all you can do is try tho, good luck to them.

Sounds like a Hawks person was talking to a mate and said if NAS is worth $4m over 2-years then Darcy would be worth a $10m over 4-years. And then that’s been translated to “Hawks are targeting …”

Also every team would find a way to fit Darcy in, but KPF is the last thing the Hawks need to be targeting. Makes absolutely no sense.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Sounds like a Hawks person was talking to a mate and said if NAS is worth $4m over 2-years then Darcy would be worth a $10m over 4-years. And then that’s been translated to “Hawks are targeting …”

Also every team would find a way to fit Darcy in, but KPF is the last thing the Hawks need to be targeting. Makes absolutely no sense.

Hawks would have to offer up something in the realm of 6+ first round picks and a player or two to pry out a contracted till 2029 Darcy, plus convince him to even want to nominate.

Zero chance of it happening.

 

[Ash1337]

How much responsibility does Bevo take for all you've just listed?
And some of the other baffling decisions re team selection and gifting some players games and others not having the same opportunity?
Remember, this is the man that pulled rank and chose Gowers, against the recruiters wishes.

An for his first year Gowers was good and kicked the most goals for them in the season. He just couldn't back it up.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I don’t think these 2 understand how FA works. Zak will go to wherever he wants and PA will need to facilitate a trade (as per an uncontracted player which he will be) or accept the compo pick - or lose him for free in the PSD. Limiting it to Carlton, Hawthorn and Essendon (and Melbourne) is wishful thinking. Am I missing something here?

Clubs that the commentators barrack for, just a coincidence of course.

 

[grassman75]

Interesting

Wonder if we can get Cam McKenzie out or if we’ll have to settle for Henry Hustwaite

Maybe they’d give us Hustwaite and Gia since everyone desperately wants him at the club

 

[Golden_6]

All jokes aside, we will have to get used to the 'Club XYZ' coming after Darcy for his entire career.

We've done incredibly well to have him locked away for another 4 seasons to limit the noise.

 

[Dogsman16]

I wouldn't be shocked if Dogs trade out first rounder for 2026 first rounder

Hopefully north Melbourne come around again.

 

[Anja_Nees]

That us, Geelong and Collingwood won’t have the picks to satisfy PA but Carlton, Essendon, Hawthorn and Melbourne will.

The weird part was suggesting we should have traded Sanders to Adelaide for a future pick to help with the Butters trade while failing to notice Sanders is out of contract next year and Adelaide is in the same state as Port.

 

[Foxman98]

Clubs that the commentators barrack for, just a coincidence of course.

The other part the numpties keep missing is the fact Walker is almost a moral to go top 3 already which makes their 2 first rounders already untradable as they'll need them to match the bid

 

[dogwatch]

All jokes aside, we will have to get used to the 'Club XYZ' coming after Darcy for his entire career.

We've done incredibly well to have him locked away for another 4 seasons to limit the noise.

We can’t afford to get complacent though. Even with FS players.

And “locked away” no longer has much weight when we’re talking player contracts. It gives the club a small amount of power over a player but if they are determined to leave mid-contract it will still happen.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

We can’t afford to get complacent though. Even with FS players.

And “locked away” no longer has much weight when we’re talking player contracts. It gives the club a small amount of power over a player but if they are determined to leave mid-contract it will still happen.

I don’t think for a second that Darcy would want to leave, but the club does have a habit of falling out with some of our greatest players, something Cooney referred to in the Dyl and Friends podcast. It would appear Chris Grant is the latest one.

 

[BIG_BONTS]

10x Top 5 picks would be around the mark from a value perspective. He's definitely worth the largest ever AFL contract.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Setting aside everything else, I just want Butters to nominate us and the trade go through to see the look on Korn-holio's face the next day.

I want anger, I want indignation, I want more bitterness and passive aggressiveness towards us and his usual sarcasm and faint praise.

 

[Pencil case]

The weird part was suggesting we should have traded Sanders to Adelaide for a future pick to help with the Butters trade while failing to notice Sanders is out of contract next year and Adelaide is in the same state as Port.

Or that the club is desperate to keep Sanders and see him as the staple of our midfield long term

 

[VitalDread]

Exclusive
Hawks have offered a mega deal to McNeil

12 year deal at 1.8c per year

 

[Iamspock]

He is a restricted free agent, so Port still have the right to match a contract. But yeah he doesn't have to accept their contract and then it's draft, but he doesn't seem like he'd do that.

Dream scenario is Port somehow finish bottom 4 then we don't lose a pick at all.

Otherwise we offer 3 firsts which is all we reasonably can, and I think would have to eventually be accepted as he's out of contract (if he nominates us).

So, our mission, as a collective, is to death ride Port to the bottom next year.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I assume we’d have to give up another later future pick for this.

Seems like no one wants firsts in this draft.

You say that but as soon as another club has a random player "slide" they overpay because they want their guy.

All it takes is for a random club to have a flier that they rated top 5 or top 10 on their draft board to slip to our pick, fear that we are going to take him (while rating him less) and then trade.

Look at Essendon stupidly paying pick 31 just so they could move up from pick 11 to 10 so they didn't "miss out" on Nate Caddy. North paying up a future first downgrade future secord so they didn't "miss out" on Matt Whitlock, pick 27. Suns sending a future first compensation pick so they can trade up and draft Jeremy Sharp pick 27.

I bet there are clubs that have equally rejected similar trades (when they shouldn't have rejected it) because they are equally as enamoured with a youngster that they've been putting lots of effort into researching, interviewing and they don't want to let go, even if it makes sense to trade your future 20-whatever pick for a future first.

If clubs have done it for a pick 27 in a strong draft in the past no reason why they shouldn't do it for a pick in the late teens in a weak draft.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Exclusive
Hawks have offered a mega deal to McNeil

12 year deal at 1.8c per year

Can we match? I'm not sure.

 

[VitalDread]

Can we match? I'm not sure.

Dogs can only go up to 1.2c
Classic Power losing a key player

 

[charcoalchicken]

Still hard to believe that the club chose not to pick up a guy like Steven Mayessentially for free during this trade period.

He could have been an immediate solution to our defensive problems for the 2026 season.

Why weren’t we interested?
Why are people so worried about him? Supposedly he doesn’t get along with people that well, so what?

How fragile is our culture that it’s not expected to be able to cope with a guy like that?

Not a guy that takes drugs and gets other people onto them, not a guy who hangs out with criminals, just a guy that isn’t everyones cup of tea.

 

[Hobdog]

it’s like that poster this morning has been watching our thread lately and thought: “The May debate has taken these people to the brink of full malfunction. Time to toss in a post about losing Darcy to finally finish them off”.

 

[Scottish Bob]

I vote to permaban anyone that mentions S****n M*y again. It’s so bloody tiresome. Get over it !!!

 

[BigFloppa]

Still hard to believe that the club chose not to pick up a guy like Steven Mayessentially for free during this trade period.

He could have been an immediate solution to our defensive problems for the 2026 season.

Why weren’t we interested?
Why are people so worried about him? Supposedly he doesn’t get along with people that well, so what?

How fragile is our culture that it’s not expected to be able to cope with a guy like that?

Not a guy that takes drugs and gets other people onto them, not a guy who hangs out with criminals, just a guy that isn’t everyones cup of tea.

What makes you think that he doesn't take drugs?

 

[Brass Dog]

Still hard to believe that the club chose not to pick up a guy like Steven Mayessentially for free during this trade period.

He could have been an immediate solution to our defensive problems for the 2026 season.

Why weren’t we interested?
Why are people so worried about him? Supposedly he doesn’t get along with people that well, so what?

How fragile is our culture that it’s not expected to be able to cope with a guy like that?

Not a guy that takes drugs and gets other people onto them, not a guy who hangs out with criminals, just a guy that isn’t everyones cup of tea.

Melbourne supporter I work with, whose husband’s a copper, reckons he did a similar act to Noah Balta outside a bayside pub, except was smart enough to avoid being caught on camera.