List Mgmt. Trade/Draft SuperMegaUltraThread - 2016 edition?

[Pat_Footy]

Pick 1 kid for an AA and a consistent 30+ pos wingman, come on mate.

pick 1 is delusional but a second round pick for him is also delusional. 23 year old with AA and club champ already next his name and just about the best wingmen in the comp. we would get a top 10 if not a top 15 pick for him.

The senior coach of the team who is set to end up with pick 1 has said its on the table.

A 23 year old AA and club champion would be one guy that could pry it out of them I'd have thought.

If you'd trade Gaff for pick 19 and change I don't think you're in a position to be calling others delusional.

I didn't say it was fair but anyone who thinks pick 1 is in the realms of possibility is just living on candy land. The types of players that you can get with pick 1 are game changers. Gaff is a consistent player that is impacting games - these types are regularly picked up in the top 10. No club is going to trade a top 10 pick for him. That's just reality. They can pick up their own "Gaff" in the top 10.

If Gaff is involved in any trade, it will not be fair value. When has a "go home" player ever commanded fair value from a WA or SA club? It hasn't... Any people that want to spout Judd should remember that he was shockingly poor value at the time.

The best that WC can hope for is Gaff decides to stay. That goes for all players on the list. WCE have done a great job in player retention and need to continue this.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I didn't say it was fair but anyone who thinks pick 1 is in the realms of possibility is just living on candy land. The types of players that you can get with pick 1 are game changers. Gaff is a consistent player that is impacting games - these types are regularly picked up in the top 10. No club is going to trade a top 10 pick for him. That's just reality. They can pick up their own "Gaff" in the top 10.

If Gaff is involved in any trade, it will not be fair value. When has a "go home" player ever commanded fair value from a WA or SA club? It hasn't... Any people that want to spout Judd should remember that he was shockingly poor value at the time.

The best that WC can hope for is Gaff decides to stay. That goes for all players on the list. WCE have done a great job in player retention and need to continue this.

The trade I suggested was similar to what GWS got for Dom Tyson (pick 2 and a downgrade of pick 9 to pick 20, plus some later picks changing hands). He was contracted but his exposed form was nowhere near that of Gaff and he didn't project as a game changer.

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility.

 

[wraglesweb]

Will be a good chance SPS will end up at Fremantle

 

[Barney44]

Don't like the idea of trading a very good mid for a top 3 pick when the likely target is another mid. Would only trade a very good mid for a top 3 pick when we could target a probable 10 year tall forward or ruck.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

nah im not a local footy person but used to stumble on to SANFL games time to time and also was dragged by mates to watch the redlegs.

Ive drunk more Coopers on Coopers Hill than I can remember. A metric shitload. Good times.

 

[Barney44]

sorry Barney
Your message only showed Sam Pepper Powell who else do you like ?

SPP or Rotham (only if we develop as a mid best kick in this draft)
Shai Bolton or will drew
Tim English or Strnadica or Bailey Banfield
Zac Fisher or Stan Wright

That would be a great draft for us

Rookie
Liam Ryan
Mitchell Dobson (seriously think he will be a afl player and will only go in the rookie draft)
Jake Patmore

Will be great year to get a second third or second rounder draft pick.
So if we can get a trade for Mitch Brown and Tom Lamb would do it this year.
Only trade I would look at would be Jarrod Pickett for a second rounder if his home sickness
means he asks for a trade home this year.
If the unlikely scenario Gaff leaves that gives another top 5 pick to use on a inside mid

I had SPP in the first round
Think SPP would bring some toughness to the midfield. Can play in all three lines which the coach likes but I doubt we will touch him with his disposal.
Strnadica in the 2nd
We need tall forwards for the future just as much as midfielders.
Waterman in the 3rd, Wright in the 4th
Would even be happy to switch them. Waterman just doesn't do anything for me, see him as being a very good WAFL player but not quite being an AFL player. I like Wrights toughness and his left foot is dangerous, amazed at the improvement in his kicking this year. Works very hard on and off the field and hear he is very easy to coach. ALways looking to make himself a better footballer.
Ryan/Dobson in the rookie draft.
I agree with you about Dobson, no idea why he isn't in the u18s. Another tough player, probably more hff but could be sent into the mid for short stints. Does athletics in the summer. Ryan is a mature player that fills a need straight away. If we miss Strnadica would look at Tom Amos in the rookie draft.

I have no idea what is available in other states so there may be better options available. Probably obvious I want us to focus on toughness and pressure with a dash of talls for the forwardline. It's ok to use pace to put pressure on the ball handler but they have to be able to hold a tackle as well.

 

[Jiggyman]

Gee, no way has Gaff hit his peak yet, and those who think he doesn't hold value to this squad have severe short-term memory loss.

We'd only trade him if he wanted out (no indications of that), and/or if were offered something we couldn't refuse (which won't be pick 1, sorry guys).

We wouldn't even consider trading him otherwise. Kid is an out-and-out gun and very important to the maturation of this side.

 

[squashface]

Given Woosh drafted Gaff in the first place, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities if Gaff did want to go home.

 

[Godfather32]

Don't like the idea of trading a very good mid for a top 3 pick when the likely target is another mid. Would only trade a very good mid for a top 3 pick when we could target a probable 10 year tall forward or ruck.

It's a different kind of mid we'd potentially be drafting and why would we target a 10 year tall forward or ruck with a high draft pick when we seriously need a decent midfielder?

 

[Barney44]

It's a different kind of mid we'd potentially be drafting and why would we target a 10 year tall forward or ruck with a high draft pick when we seriously need a decent midfielder?

Kennedy is 29
McKenzie is 28
Brown is 28
Schofield is 27

Our need for a quality tall, especially forward is just as big a concern.

 

[Godfather32]

Kennedy is 29
McKenzie is 28
Brown is 28
Schofield is 27

Our need for a quality tall, especially forward is just as big a concern.

Bullshit.

Allen is 18
Lamb is 19
Barrass is 20
McInnes is 22
Lycett is 23
McGovern is 24
Darling is 24

I'm not saying don't draft a tall forward/ruck with a later pick but our biggest need right now and moving forward is a game changing midfielder which we are only likely to get with a high draft pick.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I didn't say it was fair but anyone who thinks pick 1 is in the realms of possibility is just living on candy land. The types of players that you can get with pick 1 are game changers. Gaff is a consistent player that is impacting games - these types are regularly picked up in the top 10. No club is going to trade a top 10 pick for him. That's just reality. They can pick up their own "Gaff" in the top 10.

If Gaff is involved in any trade, it will not be fair value. When has a "go home" player ever commanded fair value from a WA or SA club? It hasn't... Any people that want to spout Judd should remember that he was shockingly poor value at the time.

The best that WC can hope for is Gaff decides to stay. That goes for all players on the list. WCE have done a great job in player retention and need to continue this.

Pat number 1 pick doesn't mean a lot this year.
There is very very little separating the top 7 picks, definateley not a given as number 1 this year
The depth in mids and utilities is very good this year
Gaff is worth a top 5 pick and a player.
Gaff would never leave the club without us getting adequate compensation.
We all know Woosha wouldn't screw us either his philospy on trading is well known.
He believes in not screwing clubs over.
On Gaff I believe his preference is to stay here.
If we got number one i would try to trade for two picks in top 20
WA boys in this year's draft crop are special we could see 20+ drafted this year.

 

[avishka5]

Bullshit.

Allen is 18
Lamb is 19
Barrass is 20
McInnes is 22
Lycett is 23
McGovern is 24
Darling is 24

I'm not saying don't draft a tall forward/ruck with a later pick but our biggest need right now and moving forward is a game changing midfielder which we are only likely to get with a high draft pick.

Im going to agree with barney. yes we do need mids and i assume we will use our first and most our picks on mids but if stranadica is available at our second round pick, we wont pass up on him. We really need a 196cm+ Kpf to replace Jk in a few years. Mcinnis wont be that, lamb isnt a true KPF and Allen is an unknown and 194cm is a second or third tall at AFL. The next two draft coming up are meant to be good so stocking and developing some KPD's isnt bad.

 

[Godfather32]

Im going to agree with barney. yes we do need mids and i assume we will use our first and most our picks on mids but if stranadica is available at our second round pick, we wont pass up on him. We really need a 196cm+ Kpf to replace Jk in a few years. Mcinnis wont be that, lamb isnt a true KPF and Allen is an unknown and 194cm is a second or third tall at AFL. The next two draft coming up are meant to be good so stocking and developing some KPD's isnt bad.

Which has what to do with using our first pick ( gained via trading Gaff) on a midfielder which is what I was saying? I just agreed, by all means use our later picks on a forward or ruck, but our highest pick must be used on a mid

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Draft watchers, if we did get pick 1 in a Gaff trade, would you go for local boy Petrevski-Seton or someone else?

I wouldn't go for SPS for me he is around pick 5 or pick 6 not a number one pick.
If he goes interstate we and Freo will get him when he nominates to come home.
Because its a certainty he will come home to WA at some stage.

 

[avishka5]

Which has what to do with using our first pick ( gained via trading Gaff) on a midfielder which is what I was saying? I just agreed, by all means use our later picks on a forward or ruck, but our highest pick must be used on a mid

sorry misread that but none of the KPF's and KPD's this year are top 5 material (so far). If Gaff Leaves and we get a top 5 pick, we will probs use it on a mid and then see if a todd marshall falls to us with our original first rounder.

 

[Godfather32]

I wouldn't go for SPS for me he is around pick 5 or pick 6 not a number one pick.
If he goes interstate we and Freo will get him when he nominates to come home.
Because its a certainty he will come home to WA at some stage.

That's what we thought about all the GC and GWS mids, not looking promising so far

 

[avishka5]

i woudn't mind aisnworth around pick 10 or so either (if we get a top ten pick for Gaff if he leaves). we need a quality small forward as well. we can also push lecras into retirement.

 

[Godfather32]

i woudn't mind aisnworth around pick 10 or so either (if we get a top ten pick for Gaff if he leaves). we need a quality small forward as well. we can also push lecras into retirement.

I'm good with taking mids/small forwards early and leaving the key position players until later unless someone really sticks out

 

[avishka5]

I'm good with taking mids/small forwards early and leaving the key position players until later unless someone really sticks out

most good big men are taken early. However, Strandica with our second rounder might not be too bad. Our KPF depth is somewhat healthy but all of them are second or third fwd type's.

Im keen on taking a punt on liam ryan. heaps of smalls have gone via the rookie draft.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

That's what we thought about all the GC and GWS mids, not looking promising so far

Very different to a boy from Halls Creek who loves the northwest with a passion.
It also very well known he will be considered a flight risk and he has admitted it in interviews

 

[Godfather32]

most good big men are taken early. However, Strandica with our second rounder might not be too bad. Our KPF depth is somewhat healthy but all of them are second or third fwd type's.

Im keen on taking a punt on liam ryan. heaps of smalls have gone via the rookie draft.

True, but I think McGovern could be our 1st KPF easily when Kennedy retires.

 

[Godfather32]

Very different to a boy from Halls Creek who loves the northwest with a passion.
It also very well known he will be considered a flight risk and he has admitted it in interviews

Who would you take over him if we were to get a high pick? I'm not on top of potential draftees yet this year.

 

[avishka5]

True, but I think McGovern could be our 1st KPF easily when Kennedy retires.

Maybe but thats not a certainty. He might be useful for a season if JK goes down but not sure for the long run. his killing it in defence so we should keep him there even after jk leaves.

 

[avishka5]

Who would you take over him if we were to get a high pick? I'm not on top of potential draftees yet this year.

I would take Will Brodie or Hugh Mcclugge. Both inside mids. Brodie more of a contested beast and mcluggae is more classy mover with skill and poise.