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He needed a new one after he closed his Phillyroo account last year....
Phillyroo didn't close shit. Heisenberg_ did you ever get paid?
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List Mgmt. Trade/Draft/Targets rumours 2019
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Phillyroo didn't close shit. Heisenberg_ did you ever get paid?
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Good luck to him if he can get a regular spot and go home, good enough to play.
Dusty must be joining norf after this contract since nobody got paid.
I heard he was Darth Vader dressed up near Jolimont trying to raise the funds for Heisenberg_ all year.......
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OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.
Trade Rance.
Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go home to Perth anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.
Why it's a good idea:
1. We have the best defence in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning defence right now.
2. He turns 30 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Lynch or May from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.
Why it's a bad idea:
1. He's probably the best defender in the game (although DGrimes might have something to say about that
2. We are a bit light on for KPDs - do we really think Garthwaite is our future full-back? Our other big defenders (Grimes and Astbury) are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Rance is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Rance has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.
Look - it's all based upon Rance WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Perth', I think the club should look at that now.
Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Rance himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.
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OK. Here is my completely insane trade idea, for us to get more trade currency. Please hear me out before shooting me.
Trade Rance.
Now - this is contingent on a couple of things.
1. He has to want to go. I don't think he does - he seems very happy in Melbourne, building a fledgling media career, and why would you want to go home to Perth anyway? But, maybe, he does.
2. We get a minimum of a Top-10 draft pick PLUS a gun U24 kid. Probably more. This is like the Eagles trading Judd, where they got Kennedy, and Pick 3. It might take a 3-4 way deal to organise that.
Why it's a good idea:
1. We have the best defence in the league WITHOUT him - sure, we'll be even better with him. But we have a premiership-winning defence right now.
2. He turns 30 in a week.
3. He's coming off a knee - and his main strength is his enormous agility. How is that going to be affected?
4. We don't have too many HIgh Draft pick KPP kids coming through, and we won't get too many high draft picks over the next few years. If we want high draft picks, we are going to have to put up some currency - Bellis and K-Mac types aren't going to cut it. Yeah, we can wait for Free Agency and pick up the next Lynch or May from the Suns, but there's not a lot of them, and there will be a lot of competition for them.
Why it's a bad idea:
1. He's probably the best defender in the game (although DGrimes might have something to say about that
2. We are a bit light on for KPDs - do we really think Garthwaite is our future full-back? Our other big defenders (Grimes and Astbury) are 28 and have some injury history. I have no idea how Balta is going to turn out (it's exciting, though).
3. There are some guys who are just heart-and-soul of a club. I think Rance is one of them, and this is why I would only do it IF he wants to go home. Ask old Richmond players about trading away Whale Roberts - not the greatest player, but a great team man. Ripped the heart out of the club. I see Rance has a similar profile within the clubroom walls.
4. Going all in on High Draft picks for big kids is risky - they take many years to get it together, and you usually don't know until year 4 or 5 whether they are going to mkake it. Maybe just wait and trade for them then.
Look - it's all based upon Rance WANTING to go - and I'm not sure he does, and I'd really rather keep him. But he's a cool cat, we know he's a bit left-field, we know he has a very interesting and different life off-field. Who knows? But if he has ever expressed the thought 'I'm happy here, but I'd like to go back home sometime and finish my career in Perth', I think the club should look at that now.
Keeping your list up-to-date is an ongoing management process. You have to be thinking 4-5 years ahead all the time, paricularly with developing kids, like, say, how Rance himself turned out. And, like it or not - players are just assets.
If we were going to do this, Trade him to Brisbane for Harris Andrews.
He would never leave the Tiges though I think, loves the club too much.
No I don’t want it to happen, but if we want a young kpd...
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If Brad wants a mil why don't we just take Matt?
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He’ll thrive there I reckon. Will be like Charlie Cameron moving to Lions
Sounds like the suns are looking at trade options for pick 1/2
Do you think we could parcel our r1 + menadue + Macca for no 2
Would love Noah Andersen to be a tiger
Do you think we could parcel our r1 + menadue + Macca for no 2
Would love Noah Andersen to be a tiger
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I'm at the complete opposite end of the scale on this one.
I love Brando and respect what he has done for our club and will always be a tiger, but I'm not sure he is the kind of player who can take them forward to be honest.
Culture wise he will be absolutely fantastic.
Football ability wise I think his game benefitted greatly having so many other good players around him and everyone working as 1, doing their role. He won't get that at the Suns.
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Spot on.
I'd honestly rather see him stay, but I hope all goes well for him. Stuck through some tough times as a tiger and helped us to two flags.
I don't see him setting the world on fire up there, unless they can sort the rest of the team out as well.
They gotta make a start and makes it much easier to sign the next uncontracted player once the locker rooms begins to have a premiership feel to it
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In the next 3 or 4 years, if the Tiges were going to have a crack at another big tuna, or couple of highly rated players, who do you guys reckon we need/could do with?
I'm struggling to really think of anyone. Pretty happy with the club and our youth.
I'm struggling to really think of anyone. Pretty happy with the club and our youth.
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I think the things he will bring to that club culture wise, setting the standards at training etc will be more beneficial to them as a club than his performances on field. IMO its a massive win for that club and he could just be the player they need to get them on track. Much like Shaun Burgoyne was talked about doing if he went.
Punters might howl me down but I’d consider balta plus r1 to get a top 5 pick if that’s what it took
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Would you accept...
Pick #18
Dylan Buckley
Adam Tomlinson
for
Sydney Stack?
Thats pretty much the equivalent.
We need to stop overrating our players when it comes to trade scenarios.
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Who should we trade out to get Gold Coasts pick 1 and 2.
Barlow thought the Crouches should do it which I think is ridiculous. We should be able to top that. Obviously Dusty is off the table as well as some other guns
Thanks for helping win us flags Brando and i really hope you soaked all of it in, because something tells me you are going to have a massive case of " what the **** have i done " during 2021 when Gold Coast are still rooted to the bottom of the ladder.
Also make sure you get your contract front loaded because there is a chance Gold Coast might not exist in 5 years.
Also make sure you get your contract front loaded because there is a chance Gold Coast might not exist in 5 years.
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Outside of Rowell and Anderson, who is worth Pick 20 and Balta (25) in this upcoming draft?
Perhaps stick to premiership players or those on the fringe of a side that’s won more games than anyone in last 3y and that May filter the ridiculous in your analogy rather than tossing up delisted hacks
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Fair dinkum?
I don't think its ridiculous at all.
I used GWS as the comparison given they finished 1 spot behind us therefore their R1 pick is pretty much the same (and have won a lot of games in the past 3 years).
Menadue - has spent the whole year in the reserves and most of his career = Buckley - but you can just replace him with Daniel Lloyd if that helps.
McIntosh - winger who can play half back, in and out of the team = Tomlinson
Pick 2 - Stack (rising star)
These are all fair comparisons. Just because a Macca won a premiership, doesn't mean his trade value is higher than his ability. You trade valuable picks on players ability and more importantly future ability. Packaging up average doesn't equal elite.
End of the day, if we held pick 2 and someone offered Menadue and Kmac, you'd be laughing at their suggestion.
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