List Mgmt. Trade Targets 2016

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Sleezy

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Young is similar but surely Mayne is the more accurate goal kicker and proven player.

$500k a year is way too rich for us anyway but we should still have a chat.


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Mayne is a very average set shot. He had one very good year in 2013, but has had the yips since they lost that grand final.

Mayne is the classic Lyon player who looks passable as a result of system, but can't sustain it in a poor team. Would almost prefer zac clarke. But then again, i really wouldn't.
 

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why do have to trade everyone that's not first 22? there will be injuries. There is a place for jonas and clurey
Clurey should play before Jonas and in any case I can put half a dozen players in our our first 22 before Tom Jonas. Surely Hombsch, Byrne-Jones, Pittard, Broadbent, Krakouer, Austin, Clurey, and maybe Bonner all make the side before Jonas? On top of that Jonas and O'Shea are both still out of contract, the others are not.
Tom Jonas would be a good depth player in a top four side but if we are looking to the future Tom should be traded for the right offer. Tom cost us nothing as he is an elevated Rookie he is 26 and has 82 games of experience so a high end third round pick would be a win for us.

Cam O'Shea should also be touted on the market. I do not go along with the theory that O'Shea is not worth anything in the market place. Cam is only 24 and has played 81 games and they have not all been bad ones. If we can get a third or fourth round pick for Cam we should take it.

In response to the question about trading depth players. If we are going to go hard at the draft, as Ken is suggesting, we have to have the draft picks. At the moment we have pick #9 then do not get another pick until around pick #45. As we traded our second round pick for Dixon we need to pick up a second rounder or strengthen our hand in the third round. Trading a couple of fringe players with an upside is a way of doing that. I have no illusions about getting second round picks for either Jonas or O'Shea but we should go flat out to get third round picks for either or both.

It is significant that we gave the out of contract John Butcher the flick instantly without testing the water but we have not re signed or delisted Jonas, O'Shea or the less experienced Brendon Ah Chee at this stage. This suggests that these three are either required players or seen as trade prospects. It would be interesting to know what their managers know.
 

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Clurey should play before Jonas and in any case I can put half a dozen players in our our first 22 before Tom Jonas. Surely Hombsch, Byrne-Jones, Pittard, Broadbent, Krakouer, Austin, Clurey, and maybe Bonner all make the side before Jonas? On top of that Jonas and O'Shea are both still out of contract, the others are not.
Tom Jonas would be a good depth player in a top four side but if we are looking to the future Tom should be traded for the right offer. Tom cost us nothing as he is an elevated Rookie he is 26 and has 82 games of experience so a high end third round pick would be a win for us.

Cam O'Shea should also be touted on the market. I do not go along with the theory that O'Shea is not worth anything in the market place. Cam is only 24 and has played 81 games and they have not all been bad ones. If we can get a third or fourth round pick for Cam we should take it.

In response to the question about trading depth players. If we are going to go hard at the draft, as Ken is suggesting, we have to have the draft picks. At the moment we have pick #9 then do not get another pick until around pick #45. As we traded our second round pick for Dixon we need to pick up a second rounder or strengthen our hand in the third round. Trading a couple of fringe players with an upside is a way of doing that. I have no illusions about getting second round picks for either Jonas or O'Shea but we should go flat out to get third round picks for either or both.

It is significant that we gave the out of contract John Butcher the flick instantly without testing the water but we have not re signed or delisted Jonas, O'Shea or the less experienced Brendon Ah Chee at this stage. This suggests that these three are either required players or seen as trade prospects. It would be interesting to know what their managers know.
It's interesting that Butch was delisted immediately and Hammer is supposedly being shopped around. Perhaps the club is a bit tired of their 'hero' status and crowd adulation. Hammer should be ashamed he was used in the Port Tv ad this year. He in no way has lived up to that. If he stays there had better be a turnaround.
 

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I really hope the rumors of Aaron Black are true. I really rate him and is exactly the guy we need. We can't afford the big name forward, but we can try and find the next Schulz... The guy who benefits from a change of clubs.
 

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I really hope the rumors of Aaron Black are true. I really rate him and is exactly the guy we need. We can't afford the big name forward, but we can try and find the next Schulz... The guy who benefits from a change of clubs.
I'm keen just so that I can change my username to BlackDixRyder. :eggplant::bicyclist:
 

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Clurey should play before Jonas and in any case I can put half a dozen players in our our first 22 before Tom Jonas. Surely Hombsch, Byrne-Jones, Pittard, Broadbent, Krakouer, Austin, Clurey, and maybe Bonner all make the side before Jonas? On top of that Jonas and O'Shea are both still out of contract, the others are not.
Tom Jonas would be a good depth player in a top four side but if we are looking to the future Tom should be traded for the right offer. Tom cost us nothing as he is an elevated Rookie he is 26 and has 82 games of experience so a high end third round pick would be a win for us.

Cam O'Shea should also be touted on the market. I do not go along with the theory that O'Shea is not worth anything in the market place. Cam is only 24 and has played 81 games and they have not all been bad ones. If we can get a third or fourth round pick for Cam we should take it.

In response to the question about trading depth players. If we are going to go hard at the draft, as Ken is suggesting, we have to have the draft picks. At the moment we have pick #9 then do not get another pick until around pick #45. As we traded our second round pick for Dixon we need to pick up a second rounder or strengthen our hand in the third round. Trading a couple of fringe players with an upside is a way of doing that. I have no illusions about getting second round picks for either Jonas or O'Shea but we should go flat out to get third round picks for either or both.

It is significant that we gave the out of contract John Butcher the flick instantly without testing the water but we have not re signed or delisted Jonas, O'Shea or the less experienced Brendon Ah Chee at this stage. This suggests that these three are either required players or seen as trade prospects. It would be interesting to know what their managers know.

Ive said before but we can trade all of

Lobbe , Neade , Oshea , ah chee for mid to late picks and I think our 22 is no less worse for it. That lot could easily get us broomhead, a mid to late second rounder and maybe a third as well.

I would have Hartlett , broadbent , jonas and Sam gray as all expendable for the right price as well but several of them weaken our 22 , or if not at least our immediate depth after our 22. Particularly Hartlett and broadbent while expendable for the right price would still be a backwards move if we don't replace them with better players, which is not guaranteed by a long shot. But to be honest we also need to take some chances to bring in new talent.
 

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I really hope the rumors of Aaron Black are true. I really rate him and is exactly the guy we need. We can't afford the big name forward, but we can try and find the next Schulz... The guy who benefits from a change of clubs.
Also having Black and White in the same team would be pretty awesome.

Would Collingwood insist on us trading in another player with a colour for a surname in order to protect their brand?
 

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Correct, Swans.

Article by Richard Hinds in the Daily Telegraph;

DURING the Swans’ momentous 2005 season I interviewed recruiting manager Rick Barham about the compilation of what would become a premiership team.

Said Barham: “You won’t find a dickhead on our list.

“I won’t name names but we’ve been laughed at sometimes for overlooking kids because they didn’t have the qualities we wanted.

“A few years later the same blokes are making a name for the wrong sort of things. They’re underperforming or getting traded. Sometimes they are even getting offered to us.’’
Buddy, Tippett, Talia... how times have changed for the swans.

Chris Mayne on the move from Freo but he'll probably be out of our price range. We should bid though, he's an unrestricted free agent and a better option than Black, even if he is 4 cm shorter.
Mayne is yuck. Had 2 ok years as a forward. His accuracy is overhyped, too. In 2012, the vast majority of his shots on goal happened to be 15-20 m out directly in front of goal. Over the last 3 years his accuracy has fallen to 57%. He's fine but not great overhead, either.
 

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Buddy, Tippett, Talia... how times have changed for the swans.



Mayne is yuck. Had 2 ok years as a forward. His accuracy is overhyped, too. In 2012, the vast majority of his shots on goal happened to be 15-20 m out directly in front of goal. Over the last 3 years his accuracy has fallen to 57%. He's fine but not great overhead, either.
he's also smaller than Aaron Young off the top of my head. Mayne has the yips, badly. terrible confidence player. 500k lol.
 

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Ones things for sure, there is a lot of speculation we will be trading heavily to improve our list and blood some young talent. I for one are happy that we are at least trying to do something different. This year assured me that we simply don't have the talent and change is needed. Time will tell if all the talk is walked. Also waiting on another senior assistant to be announced, perhaps after finals???
 

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Not really in favour of Mayne but the defensive side of his game gets talked
up more than his goal kicking.

http://m.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2015-05-03/maynes-incredible-tackle-count
Mayne’s pressure and four goals were instrumental in the 68-point win at the MCG on Sunday, according to defender Luke McPharlin.

“To have 12 tackles as a forward is an incredible stat," he said.
 
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