Mega Thread Trading, Drafting & General Cattle Rustling Part III

[whiteTiga2k]

Simon Buckley is NOT a Good Kick! Gets it a fair amount and burns every kick!

 

[Hawthorn231533]

Simon Buckley is NOT a Good Kick! Gets it a fair amount and burns every kick!

sorry long kick

 

[dermott]

Mitchell Banner 179 cm / 80 kg Midfielder / Forward
Tough inside mid who kicks goals.
Simon Buckley 190cm / 93 kg Defender / Midfielder
Good kick who provides run and carry off half back or even play midfield.
Matthew Bate 192cm / 91kg Forward / Midfielder
Massive kick good marking and good endurance.
Sam Lonergan 182 cm / 81 kg Forward / Midfielder
Tough inside mid who tackles well and can go up forward .

None of these rejects would add anything to the Hawthorn Football Club. Refer them to the Box Hill Hawks drafting/recruiting thread.

 

[Stratton24]

Josh Toy has not been delisted to he either re-signs and stays or he enters the draft. He can not be picked up as a delisted free agent.

 

[seysearles]

I am worried for him.

Reminds me of Andreas Everitt.

Bit part player however his body breaks down. Needs another 3 years lifting weights and putting on some size as he is very skinny and wont play AFL built like he is.

I doubt he will be afforded that long.

 

[HawksILove]

Josh Toy has not been delisted to he either re-signs and stays or he enters the draft. He can not be picked up as a delisted free agent.

I think he will enter the draft, as he told the Club that he wants to play in a Victorian Club

 

[Brishawk]

I think he will enter the draft, as he told the Club that he wants to play in a Victorian Club

You would think at this point they really should have delisted him.

 

[dipper86]

You would think at this point they really should have delisted him.

So basically they made life difficult for him......what a club.

 

[dermott]

Josh Toy has been de-listed.

 

[Brishawk]

Josh Toy has been de-listed.

haha so we spoke to soon!

 

[dipper86]

haha so we spoke to soon!

What a club !

 

[Buddysurkidsdad]

i was told yesterday that Hawthorn is Toy's preferred destination but he is more likely to end up with the Dogs or the Bombers. As hes been delisted it could effectively be Toy for Ozzie onto our senior list. Osborne has been brilliant for our club but i think for obvious reasons his best will be behind him and would welcome Toy taking his place.

 

[dipper86]

i was told yesterday that Hawthorn is Toy's preferred destination but he is more likely to end up with the Dogs or the Bombers. As hes been delisted it could effectively be Toy for Ozzie onto our senior list. Osborne has been brilliant for our club but i think for obvious reasons his best will be behind him and would welcome Toy taking his place.

So basically what you're saying is that Hawthorn is Toy's prefered destination but he will end up at either the bulldogs/bombers because we don't want him. (our preference is ozzie).

 

[HawksILove]

i was told yesterday that Hawthorn is Toy's preferred destination but he is more likely to end up with the Dogs or the Bombers. As hes been delisted it could effectively be Toy for Ozzie onto our senior list. Osborne has been brilliant for our club but i think for obvious reasons his best will be behind him and would welcome Toy taking his place.

Is the source reliable?

 

[JedAnderson]

Sure. I just expected a bit more at this point. It's a credit to the clubs that there hasn't been thus far.

They have no other choice to work hard and improve before they can consider leaving. The next few years will be telling.

 

[Buddysurkidsdad]

So basically what you're saying is that Hawthorn is Toy's prefered destination but he will end up at either the bulldogs/bombers because we don't want him. (our preference is ozzie).

in a nutshell I think that's probably spot on, although if i was a betting man id say Ozzie will struggle to get his spot back on the senior list and will end up as a rookie at best. There is a fair bit of time to pass until the end of the rookie draft and I would think there's every chance the clubs plans will change between now and then.

 

[Sewell Rules]

Just had a look at the full list of delisted free agents available http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/150582/default.aspx

I just think we are in our premiership window so we should recruit players who will put selection pressure on next year which will make the team better. Pick 29 is for a youngster but the rest can be delisted players and that would be fine with me.

Delisted free agents the club should consider IMO:

Sam Lonergan
Tom Gillies
Sam Iles
Ricky Pettard
Matt Campbell
Jarred Moore

Obviously we wouldn't recruit them all, but a couple of these guys might help, and certainly wouldn't hurt considering that a kid drafted with Pick 68 is pretty unlikely to have any impact next year. It's all about next year.

 

[Buddysurkidsdad]

Is the source reliable?

I would think so but I certainly wont be parting with my left aggot if its off the mark

 

[aussie80s]

i was told yesterday that Hawthorn is Toy's preferred destination but he is more likely to end up with the Dogs or the Bombers. As hes been delisted it could effectively be Toy for Ozzie onto our senior list. Osborne has been brilliant for our club but i think for obvious reasons his best will be behind him and would welcome Toy taking his place.

If I understand it right, as a delisted player Toy now becomes a free agent, which means he can sign with any club he wants, between tomorrow and Nov 13. If he wanted to go to Hawthorn then he would if Hawthorn wanted him.

As a likely top 3 pick in 2010, had he not been pre-listed, then I would think he is worth taking the gamble on as he would only effectively take up pick 84 at the moment. Just depends what Hawthorn's testing on him showed.

He would be a better selection than Campbell, Bate, Gillies and all the other names that have been floated.

 

[Flukey!]

With our current squad, how many picks do we have in the draft right now?

 

[GoldenHodge]

With our current squad, how many picks do we have in the draft right now?

4 picks, of which one of them is most likely going to be used in the PSD to re-draft Osborne.

 

[Bardo State]

I really don't think we will re-draft Osborne

I mean, if we were going to do it then what is the point of delisting him and forfeiting veterans list benefits? Unless we are waiting on Toy, I can't see the logic.

 

[GoldenHodge]

I really don't think we will re-draft Osborne

I mean, if we were going to do it then what is the point of delisting him and forfeiting veterans list benefits? Unless we are waiting on Toy, I can't see the logic.

One possible reasoning would be, if we didn't delist Osborne and happened to pick up a delisted free agent, we would only have 2 picks in the draft. Since every club needs to have a mandatory 3 picks, the club could delist a player and simply re-list them in the draft to make the mandatory 3 picks. Of course that comes with the risk the player might get picked up by another club.

 

[grizzlym]

If I understand it right, as a delisted player Toy now becomes a free agent, which means he can sign with any club he wants, between tomorrow and Nov 13. If he wanted to go to Hawthorn then he would if Hawthorn wanted him.

As a likely top 3 pick in 2010, had he not been pre-listed, then I would think he is worth taking the gamble on as he would only effectively take up pick 84 at the moment. Just depends what Hawthorn's testing on him showed.

He would be a better selection than Campbell, Bate, Gillies and all the other names that have been floated.

That would make sense of the previous maneuvering.

There is a man who would know about Toy's status Roddy27

 

[Bardo State]

One possible reasoning would be, if we didn't delist Osborne and happened to pick up a delisted free agent, we would only have 2 picks in the draft. Since every club needs to have a mandatory 3 picks, the club could delist a player and simply re-list them in the draft to make the mandatory 3 picks. Of course that comes with the risk the player might get picked up by another club.

Fair enough but I still have a feeling that Oz won't be at the club next year