Transfer discussion thread

[Cruyff14]

Maguire to City would be nice for 80m.

What % do you get for the sell on?

 

[SM]

What % do you get for the sell on?

15%, so stand to make about 10m.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

That's the thing. Players don't go there and live in **** areas etc. They obviously live in the most affluent, beautiful part of the city, cos they all rich haha

Still... Liverpool isn't and has never been a destination club.

I dunno about that, Liverpool pretty high up as a top destination club at the moment, maybe not in the top three or four but not far off. What are the criteria that pulls the top players? Wages would probably be top, then the chance to compete and win the top honours. Then you’ve got things like prestige of the club in question, the current players and manager plus the facilities (stadium, training ground etc). Other factors as well like location but you’d have Liverpool scoring high in all those criteria

 

[jod23]

I dunno about that, Liverpool pretty high up as a top destination club at the moment, maybe not in the top three or four but not far off. What are the criteria that pulls the top players? Wages would probably be top, then the chance to compete and win the top honours. Then you’ve got things like prestige of the club in question, the current players and manager plus the facilities (stadium, training ground etc). Other factors as well like location but you’d have Liverpool scoring high in all those criteria

Maybe but we just have never been a club to bring in top top players. Like United in the past would go after the best players in the world and get them. We always shop from the second shelf down. Try to get a a player who us just about to become world class. Which we've done consistently over the years. Masch, Alonso, Torres, Suarez etc

 

[sabre_ac]

Maybe but we just have never been a club to bring in top top players. Like United in the past would go after the best players in the world and get them. We always shop from the second shelf down. Try to get a a player who us just about to become world class. Which we've done consistently over the years. Masch, Alonso, Torres, Suarez etc

Are you defining the top shelf as Barc/Real/United/City/Chelsea/Baryern? Then yes, I agree with you.

I'm not sure I'd define raiding Roma as a development play, or acquiring someone who is about to become world class. Liverpool still has the means to and does buy world class talent.

 

[RossFC]

Are you defining the top shelf as Barc/Real/United/City/Chelsea/Baryern? Then yes, I agree with you.

I'm not sure I'd define raiding Roma as a development play, or acquiring someone who is about to become world class. Liverpool still has the means to and does buy world class talent.

Salah and Alisson were on the cusp of being world class as we bought them.

Salah had 2 good years at Roma but people ignored that and kept calling him a 1 season wonder. He's now had 4 good years. With the 3rd year being the year that put him up there with the best of them.

Alisson had 1 good year at Roma when we bought him, but needed to back it up to be in the discussion with the top keepers. He ended up being part of one of the best defences in the world this season and was our best player in the CL final.

 

[drd23]

 

[drd23]

Still haven't agreed on a transfer fee with Napoli. PSG have apparently offered €60m + bonuses or €75m, but Napoli want €90m

 

[joop]

Salah and Alisson were on the cusp of being world class as we bought them.

Salah had 2 good years at Roma but people ignored that and kept calling him a 1 season wonder. He's now had 4 good years. With the 3rd year being the year that put him up there with the best of them.

Alisson had 1 good year at Roma when we bought him, but needed to back it up to be in the discussion with the top keepers. He ended up being part of one of the best defences in the world this season and was our best player in the CL final.

Spurs didn't have a shot on target until the 75th minute....

 

[joop]

Still haven't agreed on a transfer fee with Napoli. PSG have apparently offered €60m + bonuses or €75m, but Napoli want €90m

I'm surprised move english clubs haven't gone after him, think he'd kill it in the prem.

 

[Magma]

Are you defining the top shelf as Barc/Real/United/City/Chelsea/Baryern? Then yes, I agree with you.

I'm not sure I'd define raiding Roma as a development play, or acquiring someone who is about to become world class. Liverpool still has the means to and does buy world class talent.

in fairness we havent really signed a top shelf player before.

i would say the last player we signed with a 'world class' reputation was bravo, and that went swimmingly.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

in fairness we havent really signed a top shelf player before.

i would say the last player we signed with a 'world class' reputation was bravo, and that went swimmingly.

I’d say you’re pretty spot on there, and you bastards have been incredible at signing the right players, while we were the ones who went after the top shelf players and it just hasn’t worked.

 

[Zoom]

City tend to sign players who have just come off big seasons or are about to breakout rather than established world class players. Ederson, Sterling, KdB, Mendy, B. Silva, Walker, Otamendi, etc.

Works pretty well for them.

 

[Cruyff14]

Who have City's best signings been?

1) Kompany
2) D. Silva
3) Kun
4) KDB
5) Sterling

?

Fernandinho stiff. Should Yaya be in there?

 

[DBAH0]

David Silva was the one I reckon, took them to the next level after he was signed.

Think he was decent value when they signed him from I think Valencia about 15 years back....

 

[Cruyff14]

Haha, try 9 years ago.

 

[SM]

David Silva was the one I reckon, took them to the next level after he was signed.

Think he was decent value when they signed him from I think Valencia about 15 years back....

15 years?! How old do you think he is?

 

[jod23]

Are you defining the top shelf as Barc/Real/United/City/Chelsea/Baryern? Then yes, I agree with you.

I'm not sure I'd define raiding Roma as a development play, or acquiring someone who is about to become world class. Liverpool still has the means to and does buy world class talent.

Yeah I'd say Real, Barca, United, Chelsea and Bayern. Those clubs have a history of signing the absolute best players on the planet. City not so much, they do now, but in the beginning they didnt, but they just nailed every transfer in the beginning like D.Silva, Kun, Kompany etc

I mean you can name a slew of the best players in world football, Messi, Ronaldo, Griezmann, Hazard, Mbappe, Pogba, Suarez, Neymar, Kroos, Ramos, Nueur etc etc... none of those guys we would pursue or they wouldnt come to us.

And you can say that throughout history when buys like Buffon, Zidane, Figo, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Cafu, Trezuguet, Pirlo, Nedved, the list can go on and on of some of the best players over the past 30 years and none would come to Liverpool.

We are not a destination club, we shop from the level below. We try to identify the blokes who are on the cusp of becoming world class, then move on them and hope they continue to progress. Guys like Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, Torres, Suarez, Sterling, Coutinho are all examples of guys we have done this with.

 

[pantskyle]

You would think winning the UCL would have stopped the "woe is us" attitude from jod.

 

[Cruyff14]

Fox Sports reporting Emery has asked for Zaha. 55m apparently. Who knows how true it is.

 

[ADL9798]

 

[RossFC]

Spurs didn't have a shot on target until the 75th minute....

So they had 8 in the last 15 minutes then.

 

[Kompany]

Apparently Neymar has agreed to take a pay cut of nearly 13m euro per year.

Who have City's best signings been?

1) Kompany
2) D. Silva
3) Kun
4) KDB
5) Sterling

?

Fernandinho stiff. Should Yaya be in there?

Big clubs wouldn't go near Kompany at the time. His time at Hamburg wasn't great. He had problems on and off the field. At the time David Silva played was still at Valencia, I remember a long term poster here going on about how Silva wasn't good enough for a good PL side. Those were great signings. Aguero was great at Atleti already and KDB was player of the season in Germany, still he did better than in England than I was expecting. Yaya was a top player too and was only sold because Pep preferred Busquets.

 

[jod23]

You would think winning the UCL would have stopped the "woe is us" attitude from jod.

Huh? That wasn't a woe is us. It was just the truth on how we operate. I'm fine with it. It works for us. We do it very well. Not woe is us at all.

#sixtimes

 

[Magma]