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Josh Hunt applies a much worse "sling" tackle last year and gets 2 weeks, downgraded to 1 with an early plea. Ridiculous logic.

Tinney suggesting the same outcome could have been achieved with considerably less force than was used.
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Oh yes Mr Tinney, I'm sure you've played elite level football. Tell me then, how would you have dispossessed Dangerfield who was just about the kick the ball?

Idiot.

Don't forget guys that this is the same idiot who fought to get Baker 20 weeks or whatever the ridiculous sentence was last year.
 
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Not a fair tackle imo.

Its a sling ffs, they are going to pin you for it. Was crazy of the Dee's to try and get rid of the entire 3 weeks rather than just try and get it reduced.

If the arm wasnt pinned, would have been a different story imo.
 
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They'll all get weeks as well because the AFL corporate c***s can't handle being called out on stupid decisions.
 
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melbournemartin said:
Of course the arm was pinned, otherwise he would have kicked or handballed the ball. That's how you are taught to tackle. At the tribunal our assistant coach said that this is how players are taught to tackle. I dare say most if not all other clubs would teach the same thing. Unfortunately now they whole things needs to be rethought. The game just got a lot softer today.
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Having the arm pinned is good tackling technique obviously, Slinging is not, you can't combine the two or injury will occur.

Difference between a "perfect tackle" where you pin the arm, and roll a player so you don't go in their back and a sling designed to make it count.
 

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satan1 said:
Not as "fair" as many are claiming imo. Arm pinned, sling, I thought the AFL was clear these would be met with penalties?
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Judd elbows Pavlich, splitting his eye. Zero weeks. Judd wins Brownlow.

Trengove tackles Dangerfield, accidentally concussing him. Three weeks. Will probably ruin his confidence in tackling.
 
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satan1 said:
Having the arm pinned is good tackling technique obviously, Slinging is not, you can't combine the two or injury will occur.

Difference between a "perfect tackle" where you pin the arm, and roll a player so you don't go in their back and a sling designed to make it count.
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People are making far too much of this "sling". Given the momentum of the players, that was the only way Dangerfield was going to get brought to ground.

Those tweets by Melbourne players are hilarious. ****ing idiots run our game I tell you.
 
Jaymin said:
I don't think Findlay made any good points.

They basically said "This is how we teach them to tackle. It was not unreasonable. Please dismiss this case"

They needed to try and get the force downgraded or something like that.
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not findlay sorry, ball

the game dynamics or whatever guy
 
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Since when does Dangerfield only have 1 arm? Anyone else realise he had his left arm there and could have protected himself with it. Or he could have dropped with the tackle.

How strong is Trengove if he can really pick a guy up from a standing start and sling him at a million miles an hour without Dangerfield having some sort of responsibility to protect himself.
 
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Clearly the illegal tackle was aiming to hurt his opponent, so the suspension is warranted.

he'll think next time before engaging in these dirty tactics.
 
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anti_ said:
Clearly the illegal tackle was aiming to hurt his opponent, so the suspension is warranted.

he'll think next time before engaging in these dirty tactics.
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No, you are just dumb.

:thumbsu:
 

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I disagree that it was a sling. After watching it a number of times, I think the reason it looks like a sling is because PDs arm and leg were free, as he attempted to kick it. JT then tries to affect this kick by swinging him sideways, but slipped as he did it. In consequence, PDs arm and leg both flail outwards, traveling much faster than his body was, therefore it appeared that he as a whole was moving fast. I'm not a physicist so I wont get into any arguments over this idea, but its the same as if you spin around with your arms out, you appear to be spinning much faster than you actually are because your outer extremities are traveling faster to catch up to your core.
I think its a ridiculous decision, and a good player in good form is being punished for executing a great tackle that unfortunately resulted in a slight injury to another player...hope the MRP cops some heat for this
 
So he contested the decision and lost yes. He still can appeal and go to the tribunal or whatever, yes?

If he ends up suspended after that the game should be no longer described as a contact sport
 
Got what it deserved, should have taken the 2.

AFL have been harping on for years "no sling tackles, protect the head, blah, blah, blah." This exact action was included in the 2011 Laws of the Game video sent to all clubs about what NOT to do. MFC was stupid to contest it, and their argument was woeful. "We have 2 coaches from our team who say this is the way we teach it, so it must be legal."
 

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Brown was suspended for throwing his elbow back

If we're going to compare separate incidents and highlight the AFL's inconsistency, then how about we compare Trengrove's slinging tackle to the Geelong players who have now made an artform of crashing into the back of the guy who is trying to mark.

Matthew Scarlett pretended to go for the ball in the recent game against Hawthorn when he collected Lewis. He was lucky to get his fist on the ball, but it wasn't his primary intention. His main aim was to crash into the back of Lewis as hard as he could. The giveaway was how hecwatched the player, not the ball and then turned side on and stuck his knee and forearm out. (If you remove Lewis from that contest, then Scarlett's effort of going for that ball would be slightly comical. Lewis actually controlled the mark for a micro second, so Scarlett actually arrived late, but not late enough to draw the ire of most observers. As if the "lateness" means anything when you deliberately line up a player and crash into them.)

Over to you, MRP...

No case to answer...? What a joke!

Naturally enough, Scarlett did it again last weekend against North. Why wouldn't he? At worst, he'll give away a free kick to the player who was going to take the mark anyway. In America, they would call this a "cheap shot". And that's what it is.

There is nothing tough about crashing into the back of a player in a marking contest, the AFL are basically allowing a free hit.

A few of Scarlett's Geelong mates were also up to the same trick. In the game vs North. Both Selwood and Podsiadly made totally unrealistic attempts to spoil, never got anywhere near the ball and basically crashed into their opponents and kneed them in the back.

And before any one-eyed Geelong muppets get defensive about this, I'm don't care about the colour of their jumpers and I don't care that a player from my team was hurt. I'm just amazed that the AFL are so concerned about head injuries they'll suspend players for minimal contact, but then they'll allow other players to get away with ghis shit. I can only imagine what people would've said if it was the "unsociable" Hawks who tried this stuff on.

I thought the AFL had outlawed the practise of deliberately crashing into guys' backs in marking contests. Too many players were getting hurt. They brought in the rule called "charging"

The AFL are such idiots. They are incapable of remembering all of their own rules. Probably because they're always looking to make new rules. They outlaw something and then years later, they turn a blind eye as it creeps back into our game.

Surely the player who is the most vulnerable on the football field is the guy who is trying to take a mark and has his eyes fixed on the ball. Where is the protection? Players are now coached to collide into them in mid air. Commentators get critical of players who don't "apply bodily defensive pressure". Some players take it to the Nth degree and actually start hitting in as hard as they can.

It's wrong.

Someone is going to get seriously hurt and only then the AFL will act. They'll probably invent a stupid new rule, even though we already have rules which say you can't do this.

I give up sometimes... Who is running this stupid game? Is it Adrian Anderson? Is it Jeff Gieschen? Sometimes I think none of them have a bloody clue what they're doing
 
Tony Burns should have defended him.:) (Lawyer who did a great job getting Dawes off a similar joke of a charge a few weeks ago).

The problem with this case is he has no chance of getting off, as the AFL will point to the pre season DVD of the rules, which apparently has a very similar incident as an example (Brent Harvey broken arm I believe).

They talk about the Montagna bump on Curnow "not being in the spirit of the game", well either is this suspension/rule.:thumbsdown:
 
Shane Mumford was suspended for an even softer incident last season. A tackle that was much the same except with less force and didn't leave his opponent concussed. Trengove being free to play after taking that previous decision into account would've been even more bizarre than the 3 week verdict.
 
MattyB_76 said:
Got what it deserved, should have taken the 2.

AFL have been harping on for years "no sling tackles, protect the head, blah, blah, blah." This exact action was included in the 2011 Laws of the Game video sent to all clubs about what NOT to do. MFC was stupid to contest it, and their argument was woeful. "We have 2 coaches from our team who say this is the way we teach it, so it must be legal."
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But there are 100 of tackles like that a game??? Moments later Trengove atttempts a similar tackle.

I just don't see how you can share that view?

It's ridiculous and a blight on footy.
 

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