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we'll get him I reckon.

Would have loved to get a KPD but as some have said, you cannot overlook quality just for the sake of filling a hole in the team (in the coming years).
Also, I don't see much of Stevie J in him through his highlights, as Troy said himself...plays more like Pendlebury.
 
footscore said:
we'll get him I reckon.

Would have loved to get a KPD but as some have said, you cannot overlook quality just for the sake of filling a hole in the team (in the coming years).
Also, I don't see much of Stevie J in him through his highlights, as Troy said himself...plays more like Pendlebury.
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We have zilch chance of getting him according to the INSIDE football guys on SEN. Will go no lower than 6, but I hope you are correct.
 

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footscore said:
we'll get him I reckon.

Would have loved to get a KPD but as some have said, you cannot overlook quality just for the sake of filling a hole in the team (in the coming years).
Also, I don't see much of Stevie J in him through his highlights, as Troy said himself...plays more like Pendlebury.
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Yeah, nothing like SJ, much smoother (like Pendlebury), but not really anything like Pendlebury either, with that classic left-footer's jink and wheel.
 
Ill be the first to admit that I havent seen any of Tenzel, but are we perhaps trying to be a little romantic in wanting to pick him up with our first rounder given the injuries he has had & the type of surgery he has used to get back not to mention the supposed strength of the draft?

I just watched his draft camp reel & he looks very good, itll be very interesting to see if wells grabs him if we get the opportunity or if he has his eye on something better?
 
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I just watched his draft camp reel & he looks very good, itll be very interesting to see if wells grabs him if we get the opportunity or if he has his eye on something better?
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I doubt that there is much in the way of "something better" in terms of the type of player that Menzel is. It is more a case of where Wells stands in the pecking order. And it is down near the very bottom in the first round.

That said, I think that Wells will pick the best player available.
 
Doggies have 2 picks , PA 1 pick.
Hinkley 1st year coach and Bmac 2nd year.

Both teams needs best player available in the rebuild - and that means safe. I just think the inherent risk of taking Tenzel here for these 2 clubs and coaches is too great. GWS is the worry. Enough top picks to be able to risk on at 12 on him. Hope im wrong.

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I doubt that there is much in the way of "something better" in terms of the type of player that Menzel is. It is more a case of where Wells stands in the pecking order. And it is down near the very bottom in the first round.

That said, I think that Wells will pick the best player available.
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Yes...thats the issue....best player available or type of player we may need in the future. Another mid-size forward/midfield player (Menzel/Vlastuin/Kennedy) or KPD (Clurey/Thurlow/Corr etc )...or just the best player left.....

Only the inner circle really know...
 
we know how good wells is but would Scott have the final say in choosing what he wants Wells and team to draft?
Can't ever remember Bomber Thompson speaking much about draft day and his thoughts.
 
I cant imagine Scott wouldn't have some input. Wells would tell CS whats on the table and then, with input from Balme and I presume the MC, players would be prioritized. I expect it would be a "team" effort.
 
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I cant imagine Scott wouldn't have some input. Wells would tell CS whats on the table and then, with input from Balme and I presume the MC, players would be prioritized. I expect it would be a "team" effort.
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Isn't it more likely that it would work the other way round; CS (meaning the whole coaching staff) would work out their needs over each of, say, the next 3 years; Wells would work out the options for filling those needs, based on what's available this year and the near future; then the 2 groups plus Balme work out this year's priority list.?
 
As coach, it's his game-plan and goals for the future so he may have certain players specifically intended to accommodate that goal and I would have thought Wells then gains this blue print and begins searching over the year/s for those types of players along with the help of his other recruiting contacts
 

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I guess a bit of both Fred..........each scenario may occur at a different place on the time line...we both ended up at the same place!
 
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I cant imagine Scott wouldn't have some input. Wells would tell CS whats on the table and then, with input from Balme and I presume the MC, players would be prioritized. I expect it would be a "team" effort.
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They will already know who they want before the draft. It will just be a matter of ticking names off as they go for pick one and they take the next on the list. And for the second pick Wells will have a pretty good idea of who he wants. I would suggest Scott will not even open his mouth on draft night.
 
As for the process, I reckon Wells and Co would go out and view / rate / research all the players they want without any input from CS. That way, they are not looking for anything specific with any bias, they are looking at prospects based on what the prospect can and cant do as a player, rather than will he fit into a specific mold or position.

Then, once that is done, they would rate them by position or skillset. If CS and co are looking for for best CHF option, Wellsy and co provide player x profile based on what they have seen, not what they were looking for. Hopefully I've made that kind of clear.

Of course, Im a hack and Wells just needs to keep doing what he has been doing. Shits been working fine to this point. Dont fix what aint broken...

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As for the process, I reckon Wells and Co would go out and view / rate / research all the players they want without any input from CS. That way, they are not looking for anything specific with any bias, they are looking at prospects based on what the prospect can and cant do as a player, rather than will he fit into a specific mold or position.

Then, once that is done, they would rate them by position or skillset. If CS and co are looking for for best CHF option, Wellsy and co provide player x profile based on what they have seen, not what they were looking for. Hopefully I've made that kind of clear.

Of course, Im a hack and Wells just needs to keep doing what he has been doing. Shits been working fine to this point. Dont fix what aint broken...

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They will already know who they want before the draft. It will just be a matter of ticking names off as they go for pick one and they take the next on the list. And for the second pick Wells will have a pretty good idea of who he wants. I would suggest Scott will not even open his mouth on draft night.
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The process obviously would be for the recruiters to systematically rate and learn every player potentially in the draft for this and the next couple of years, a continuous process. There is no need for coaching staff input at this stage.
THEN, as I said above, coming up to draft day, the coaching staff would work out their needs over each of, say, the next 3 years; Wells would work out the options for filling those needs, based on what's available this year and the near future; then the 2 groups plus Balme work out this year's priority list.
On the day, this year, with only 16 and 79, it's easy, just list our priorities, and cross them off as they become unavailable.
In other years when we have, say, 3 or 4 real picks, it requires much much more work. The process has been described fairly regularly over the years in newspaper articles, usually of the "how clever were we" type. Recruiters and coaches have to work out not just our needs, but the needs and probable priorities of each of the other 17 clubs, and the likely meaning for our list of priorities at each pick. Then, as each pick is taken, we cross them off our list, and note how our estimates are going with the other clubs' lists. This is because, at each of our picks, we don't just do it linearly, we have a group of 2 or 3 alternatives, and (for example) pick the one that might be our 2nd choice if we calculate that he would otherwise be gone by next pick but that our 1st choice will still be there (that's just an example if the 2 choices aren't far apart, but if our 1st is much higher priority than our 2nd, we might decide not to take the risk). It's high-stakes poker, and requires the full concentration and input of both recruiters and coaches there on the day.
 
Fred and daz are pretty much on the money.
Wells and his crew are out and about checking out the talent, come draft time Scotty and the MC would work out holes in the list and along with Balme would go to Wells with those, he will give Scotty/MC/Balme a list of potential players who could/would/likely to be available for each pick that fits those holes.
There would be 15 names for our first pick I reckon, 2 or 3 "get if still avail" a few more "might be available" and then a heap of "will be avail, if the first 2 groups arent avail" and probably 1 or 2 "worth a punt" types.
 

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I think that they will lure Paul the prophetic octopus out of retirement to help them decide who are the best 2 players to pick.
 
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