Banter TRTT Part 11: Ghosts n Sh..tuff

[Grave Danger]

I remember being given out LBW for a ball that was rolling on the ground back in primary school. I'm 38. It still annoys.
Even back then they gave leeway to kids who couldn't bowl. Now it seems they are giving favours to kids who can't bat. Sounds like world cricket in general.

I remember umpiring a juniors game many years ago where the batsmen had to retire when they'd scored 30, but could come back in at the end of the innings if there were still overs left - I got severely rebuked by the other umpire who was the coach, when I told one of the bowlers that they'd be better off not getting the little kids out, because then the big kids who'd had to retire would come back in and smash lots of runs. They were too young to learn about strategy apparently

 

[Duck Farmer]

Too much virtual signalling nowadays

Just about every AC game starts with a message about the diversity of the development team in terms of race, religion, sexual orientation etc. I think that is fine and should be a leave pass to allow them to treat the rest of the game as a gore-filled, violent rampage of sensibilities appropriate to the time period.

 

[bomberclifford]

This is why writing in modern films and games is ******* trash. If you can't write fu** all about anything it becomes a boring, sanitised and politically charged mess.

Imagine trying to write descriptive stuff and having to tip toe around every word. No creative licence anymore.

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I'm still not sure what bit Rainbow Hawk has a problem with.
Was it the use of the word 'disfigured'?

How do they even cope reading any books if this stuff is a problem?

 

[Doctor Feel]

I'm still not sure what bit Rainbow Hawk has a problem with.
Was it the use of the word 'disfigured'?

How do they even cope reading any books if this stuff is a problem?

John Malkovitch's character in 'In The Line Of Fire' is not fair on psychopaths.

 

[edgie]

Nah as Noddy alluded, it's basically Indoor cricket rules. You lose 4 runs for every wicket. (or 4 runs are added to the oppo scores, I forget). Actually the best thing about umpiring is at least you don't have to be scorer.

Ah ok

I don't mind the idea that you get a minimum number of balls to face but there has to be some sort of deterrent to getting 'out'.

There is definitely room in the middle ground when it comes to kids sport between 'everyone wins' and 'back in my day' attitudes.

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[edgie]

...
Make it...well fu** it, just delete the character and replace it with a mary sue gay black person.

And this is how that chick in the latest star wars trilogies' character was was born.

And everyone celebrated the diversity, even as those black characters were pushed aside to make room for the spoilt white kid to have his character fleshed out, because Disney era can do nothing wrong. When this was pointed out by facts, statistics, people who worked on the movies, the people who directed the movies, and the ****ing actors themselves, they all got told they were wrong and the real reason they don't like new star wars is because it isn't their star wars that's full of white people, mostly male, because virtue signal eating fans know better than anyone.

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[edgie]

It's like people aren't interested in reality.

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[Sleezy]

I'm still not sure what bit Rainbow Hawk has a problem with.
Was it the use of the word 'disfigured'?

How do they even cope reading any books if this stuff is a problem?

So I can't speak for rainbow hawk, but for me, without context, it looks like lazy writing.

Like the 'noble savage', disabled or disfigured person is bad/evil is an overused trope with some troubling implications. Think of a bad guy from a movie, and they are probably disfigured/disabled in some way (Lex Luther, Joker, Darth Vader, literally every Bond villain).

Now I can understand why this would be the case. Movies and comics are inherently visual mediums, and disfigurement/disability is a handy visual cue to identify the bad guy as different from the good guys.

The flipside of this, however, is that disability/disfigurement can become a visual shorthand for the bad guy's character flaws.

For most of us, no biggie. But for all the people who actually are disfigured/disabled - this is a problem. Imagine growing up with the overwhelming majority of people like you on TV are evil.

It doesn't mean you can't have a disfigured characters, or even disfigured bad guy's, but they can't be a one dimensional characature, where the disfigurement is directly linked to the character flaw, either as cause (as it appears to be above) or as punishment (ie, Darth Vader).

 

[Doctor Feel]

Chad Bros home gym

 

[Doctor Feel]

That picture just oozes smelly feet and BO

 

[Dylan8]

Chad Bros home gym

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I can hear this picture

 

[JimmyBC]

There's something weird about these Aldi burger rings

 

[Doctor Feel]

How ****ing hard is it to find good tradesman.

Our marble benchtops took two weeks to cut and shape right, cool that's fine. On the day of install, they call up and say the scheduled installer has called in sick and they didn't have time to schedule a new person. This has a domino effect. The plumber needs to be rescheduled and so does the tiler.

They rock up at 1pm today, and they go "Yeah look, we lost the template for the vanity so it didn't get cut and we don't have it with us today. Apparently someone found the template this morning huhuhu. We have the rest though."

Then they proceed to take a butt****ingly long time to do their piece of work, so long in fact that now the plumber doesn't have time to plumb the sink, dishwasher, washer and dryer. So now the plumber gets ****ed by them too. I mean, it was shockingly obvious your installer wasn't sick. You lost the template and didn't want to fess up to it and wanted more time to find it.

Another weekend of no sinks, dishwashers or washing machines, and another reschedule for the tiler and plumber. Thanks guys, top work.

#firstworldproblems

 

[bomberclifford]

So I can't speak for rainbow hawk, but for me, without context, it looks like lazy writing.

Like the 'noble savage', disabled or disfigured person is bad/evil is an overused trope with some troubling implications. Think of a bad guy from a movie, and they are probably disfigured/disabled in some way (Lex Luther, Joker, Darth Vader, literally every Bond villain).

Now I can understand why this would be the case. Movies and comics are inherently visual mediums, and disfigurement/disability is a handy visual cue to identify the bad guy as different from the good guys.

The flipside of this, however, is that disability/disfigurement can become a visual shorthand for the bad guy's character flaws.

For most of us, no biggie. But for all the people who actually are disfigured/disabled - this is a problem. Imagine growing up with the overwhelming majority of people like you on TV are evil.

It doesn't mean you can't have a disfigured characters, or even disfigured bad guy's, but they can't be a one dimensional characature, where the disfigurement is directly linked to the character flaw, either as cause (as it appears to be above) or as punishment (ie, Darth Vader).

Ok, thanks for the reply but... do you over think everything to this level?

This is a fantasy video game set in Valhalla and it was a twenty-odd word blurb on one enemy character.

The description is not in anyway, shape, or form, suggesting that all disfigured people are evil. It only states that this particular individual was impacted by a traumatic event in childhood and it shaped the person they became. Which is entirely plausible in the context of the game's setting.

BTW, I'm all for the questioning and challenging of popular media depictions of "Beauty = Good" and "Ugly = Evil", but I just don't see it here.

Fight Disney, not Ubisoft.

 

[Powerade 08]

How ******* hard is it to find good tradesman.

Our marble benchtops took two weeks to cut and shape right, cool that's fine. On the day of install, they call up and say the scheduled installer has called in sick and they didn't have time to schedule a new person. This has a domino effect. The plumber needs to be rescheduled and so does the tiler.

They rock up at 1pm today, and they go "Yeah look, we lost the template for the vanity so it didn't get cut and we don't have it with us today. Apparently someone found the template this morning huhuhu. We have the rest though."

Then they proceed to take a butt*******ly long time to do their piece of work, so long in fact that now the plumber doesn't have time to plumb the sink, dishwasher, washer and dryer. So now the plumber gets f’ed by them too. I mean, it was shockingly obvious your installer wasn't sick. You lost the template and didn't want to fess up to it and wanted more time to find it.

Another weekend of no sinks, dishwashers or washing machines, and another reschedule for the tiler and plumber. Thanks guys, top work.

#firstworldproblems

You lost any power you had over this situation when you accidentally sent them a photo from your spank bank. Should have just bailed and found someone else.

 

[backtozero]

How ******* hard is it to find good tradesman.

Our marble benchtops took two weeks to cut and shape right, cool that's fine. On the day of install, they call up and say the scheduled installer has called in sick and they didn't have time to schedule a new person. This has a domino effect. The plumber needs to be rescheduled and so does the tiler.

They rock up at 1pm today, and they go "Yeah look, we lost the template for the vanity so it didn't get cut and we don't have it with us today. Apparently someone found the template this morning huhuhu. We have the rest though."

Then they proceed to take a butt*******ly long time to do their piece of work, so long in fact that now the plumber doesn't have time to plumb the sink, dishwasher, washer and dryer. So now the plumber gets f’ed by them too. I mean, it was shockingly obvious your installer wasn't sick. You lost the template and didn't want to fess up to it and wanted more time to find it.

Another weekend of no sinks, dishwashers or washing machines, and another reschedule for the tiler and plumber. Thanks guys, top work.

#firstworldproblems

This just reminds me of this

 

[Doctor Feel]

You lost any power you had over this situation when you accidentally sent them a photo from your spank bank. Should have just bailed and found someone else.

The flooring guys have been great. It's just Adelaide Marble that have been ****ing shit.

 

[Andre]

The description is not in anyway, shape, or form, suggesting that all disfigured people are evil. It only states that this particular individual was impacted by a traumatic event in childhood and it shaped the person they became. Which is entirely plausible in the context of the game's setting.

I'm all for movies / shows / games set in current times to be representative and inclusive (unless a character is meant to be deliberately not), but if you're setting something in a time or fictional setting, that isn't here and now, don't get upset if those in the movie/show/game conform to the society as it existed / would be like. Christ a Viking themed game is using a society with raiding, pillaging, rape and lots of violence as the backdrop. Some teasing for disfigurement is far down the list of 'offenses' there.

 

[Sleezy]

Ok, thanks for the reply but... do you over think everything to this level?

This is a fantasy video game set in Valhalla and it was a twenty-odd word blurb on one enemy character.

The description is not in anyway, shape, or form, suggesting that all disfigured people are evil. It only states that this particular individual was impacted by a traumatic event in childhood and it shaped the person they became. Which is entirely plausible in the context of the game's setting.

BTW, I'm all for the questioning and challenging of popular media depictions of "Beauty = Good" and "Ugly = Evil", but I just don't see it here.

Fight Disney, not Ubisoft.

Nah, one of the youtubers my girlfriend watches has a pretty significant physical disability and is a literary critic/poet - I've picked up a few things.

I've also recently started writing seriously myself, and I do try to take writing characters different from me a little more seriously. Walk a mile etc.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I like how you can uninstall Microsoft edge, and then the next Windows update its suddenly just back on your desktop shortcuts and on your toolbar.

It's literally just bloatware at this point.

 

[bomberclifford]

Nah, one of the youtubers my girlfriend watches has a pretty significant physical disability and is a literary critic/poet - I've picked up a few things.

I've also recently started writing seriously myself, and I do try to take writing characters different from me a little more seriously. Walk a mile etc.

I defer to your vast life experience then.

 

[Sleezy]

I defer to your vast life experience then.

Lol. Just passing on a perspective I've heard from someone on the other side of the debate for consideration.

 

[Grave Danger]

I like how you can uninstall Microsoft edge, and then the next Windows update its suddenly just back on your desktop shortcuts and on your toolbar.

It's literally just bloatware at this point.

I just leave it there, in the least likely spot to be accidentally clicked on.

 

[edgie]

I'm all for movies / shows / games set in current times to be representative and inclusive (unless a character is meant to be deliberately not), but if you're setting something in a time or fictional setting, that isn't here and now, don't get upset if those in the movie/show/game conform to the society as it existed / would be like. Christ a Viking themed game is using a society with raiding, pillaging, rape and lots of violence as the backdrop. Some teasing for disfigurement is far down the list of 'offenses' there.

I'm all for movies / shows / games set in current times to be representative and inclusive (unless a character is meant to be deliberately not), ...

It's gotta go both ways though. Whilst not terribly askew, for example, Star Wars sequel trilogy had lots of female goodies and only one female baddie, who was in a full suit of armour anyway.

For every Cate Blanchett being a really good baddie in Thor, fighting against heaps of male goodies, there's more the opposite too.

No one called Ragnarok a sexist film however, cause it's actually quite good and she played a strong character, even if morally corrupt.

Anyway, I went off on a tangent there, yes, it's true that physically deformed people have overwhelmingly been portrayed as bad characters in film, and good lookers as good. The Spiderman PS4 game was cool as Peter Parker was real dweebie looking, definitely wouldn't see him like that in a film, but then they remastered it and made him look completely different, much closer to the current film version played by Tom Holland. Much more like a kid you'd struggle to believe didn't have girls chasing him at school.

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[Papa G]

Still reckon Raising Arizona is my favorite Coen movie. Cage is brilliant. How often do you get to say that?