Universal Love TRTT Part 8: Random thoughts also sack Hinkley

[Janus]

What if billions of people took personal responsibility?

Better if the people who have made billions off of people took personal responsibility.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Come on Schulzy, that's a ridic comparison.

Yeah I went back and deleted that already. Wasn't my best work.

I think you're underrating your power as a consumer a bit. Everyone likes to take the piss out of vegans but at least they're taking responsibility through the industries they choose to support.

And yet the meat industry is still thriving. That's pretty much my whole point.

 

[Magus]

Yeah I went back and deleted that already. Wasn't my best work.



And yet the meat industry is still thriving. That's pretty much my whole point.

It was never going to change overnight, just as carbon emissions wont disappear overnight.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Well, I'm convinced now. Everything's going to be ok. Thanks fictional wise old lady in the grocery store

Reminds me of when I was a fictional old lady in a grocery store.

But we talked about boobs before implants.

You know we just made do with what we had.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

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[Tredz]

Good to see you have no idea

What don't I have any idea about?
a) That I don't believe that 'the planet is going suffer a horrific mass extinction within the next 12 years' (as a result of climate change); or
b) Terrifying children by teaching them that the above is a certainty to happen is a bad thing; or
c) That terrifying children could not be considered child abuse; or
d) all of the above

I'm actually open to listening to (ie reading) your thoughts and argument to support your hypothesis that I have 'no idea'. You may indeed be correct.

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

Little kids at climate protest say they won't turn off lights and stop using iphones and laptops because its now so bad their action won't make any difference, while sipping water from plastic bottles

While holding up placards demanding Australia (0.5% of world emissions) spend hundreds of billions doing things with no known benefit because if we don't set the example then china and india won't change their ways

 

[edgie]

The old I want climate change policies in place as long as I need not take any personal responsibility doo wah waddy.

It's all doo hickey though really Janus is correct.

I want Australia to have better environmental policies and I also want to buy my 5th mobile phone in 7 years full of components mined in India and China.


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[Sleezy]

a) That I don't believe that 'the planet is going suffer a horrific mass extinction within the next 12 years' (as a result of climate change); or

I guess there are two parts to this I disagree with.

1) The mass extinction has already started with the species most sensitive to changes in climate and ecosystem. Mass coral bleaching is an example. The 30% drop in bird populations across North America in the last 50 years is another.

2) The argument is not that humans will become extinct within 12 years. That's ridiculous.

Rather, if we are unable to reverse the growth in emissions within the next 12 years, the risk of climate change reaching a tipping point where a mass extinction is inevitable increases exponentially.

And by tipping point I mean something like polar ice caps melting to the point where the light they used to reflect away is instead absorbed, further accelerating the rate of warming.

If that happens the ice caps will never come back, the global ecosystem will be irrevocably changed in ways we can't predict and most if not all the infrastructure we rely on to sustain 7 billion people will be useless.

 

[edgie]

God damn I am sick. This is horrible. Bumwee all night.


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[NoddyHolder]

Reminds me of when I was a fictional old lady in a grocery store.

But we talked about boobs before implants.

You know we just made do with what we had.

I was a fictional grocery delivery boy, delivering groceries in the basket of my bike. But I got run over by a fictional ice cream van and now I am a fictional tug boat captain with a wooden leg and a parrot called Tracy.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I was a fictional grocery delivery boy, delivering groceries in the basket of my bike. But I got run over by a fictional ice cream van and now I am a fictional tug boat captain with a wooden leg and a parrot called Tracy.

I knew a bird called Tracy once.

Dick Tracy

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[Kiss from a Rozee]

What if billions of people took personal responsibility?

What if billions of other people took collective action?

 

[Kiss from a Rozee]

What don't I have any idea about?
a) That I don't believe that 'the planet is going suffer a horrific mass extinction within the next 12 years' (as a result of climate change); or
b) Terrifying children by teaching them that the above is a certainty to happen is a bad thing; or
c) That terrifying children could not be considered child abuse; or
d) all of the above

I'm actually open to listening to (ie reading) your thoughts and argument to support your hypothesis that I have 'no idea'. You may indeed be correct.

The kids figured out for themselves that the system doesn’t give a **** about them.

That is why they are actually in the streets trying to make a difference rather than complaining about how environmental policy hurts GDP.

 

[Workingclass]

I would prefer Greta thunberg as the millenial on our board than holly ransom.

Actually i think Greta is Gen Z.

 

[MotlopRules]

Sorry you are unable to view the video, it really is quite interesting and might help you appreciate an alternative view

Loll it's actually just tedious boomer trash shared by cat grandmas and old people on facebook, but okayyy.

Also, Alan Jones called and he wants his faux concern-trolling back.

 

[edgie]

There's absolutely zero doubt that lifestyles of the past were far more sustainable overall.


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[Tredz]

Loll it's actually just tedious boomer trash shared by cat grandmas and old people on facebook, but okayyy.

Also, Alan Jones called and he wants his faux concern-trolling back.

So when people don't necessarily subscribe to your views the answer is to refer them in derogatory and/or demeaning terms and tone such as "boomer trash", "cat grandmas" and "old people" - presumably their views, thoughts and ideas are irrelevant, must be summarily dismissed and derided?

 

[Dylan8]

So when people don't necessarily subscribe to your views the answer is to refer them in derogatory and/or demeaning terms and tone such as "boomer trash", "cat grandmas" and "old people" - presumably their views, thoughts and ideas are irrelevant, must be summarily dismissed and derided?

When your ideas have been debunked and argued to death a million times on the internet already I reckon it's fair to cut to the chase.

 

[Andre]

...And if China and India decide to come to the party.

Australia is such a small contributor to Climate Change we could be zero emissions tomorrow and it'd make bugger all difference. The ways Australia could make a difference to the world is:

1. Spending all the money currently put into subsidising Renewables into expanding our Uranium mining and exporting and into Thorium research. Good luck on getting the Greens on-board there.
2. Researching and producing much more GMO food that takes less water and chemicals to produce a certain amount of food. Again good luck getting support for that.

Anything else done by Australia is really only stroking our own ego's or trying to virtue shame other countries. As I believe in Climate change and don't have time for token measures I'm fully on-board with both the above options and will vote for any party putting these real policies that would have an effect into being, over the shit shows from all at present.

 

[Grave Danger]

You'd think all those people that live in cold places would like a bit of climate change. Ungrateful wretches.

 

[Tredz]

When your ideas have been debunked and argued to death a million times on the internet already I reckon it's fair to cut to the chase.

What ideas have been debunked and argued to death? I actually haven't posted ANY ideas. I have however posted some views, namely;
a) I don't believe that the planet is going to go extinct within the next 12 years;
b) I don't think we should be teaching children that it is;
c) I don't subscribe to the belief older generations don't care about the environment, the planet or the youth of today or future generations; d) I do believe it is disingenuous to blame all of life's problems, ill and issues of the day on 'boomers', 'cat grandmas' and 'old people'.

 

[Forzaport]

Adults projecting their irrational fears onto children to score political points and using them as props is child abuse. It’s actually painful to watch these kids so fearful about their futures.

We have gone from teaching kids how to care for the environment using the 3 Rs and TV shows like Captain Planet to manic hysteria “You’re going to ****ing die in 10 years unless you do as I say!”

The effects of climate change attributable to humans have been wildly exaggerated. It doesn’t mean we don’t seek to become carbon neutral and encourage other countries to do the same but it does mean we don’t put the fear of death into our kids.

 

[Edgepower]

Depends. If it's billions of starving Africans it won't do s**t. If it's billions of politicians and oil executives, that'd be fantastic. Hell, if it was even 100 or so of the right politicians and oil executives, it'd have more impact than the billions of starving Africans.

https://davidsuzuki.org/what-you-can-do/top-10-ways-can-stop-climate-change/
We do a few of these in my house ... we have meat free monday and decreased our consumption of beef n lamb.. buy ethically i.e. no products with palm oil or excessive packaging .. or from sh!t companies that pollute .. i cycle to work ... every bit helps but politicians and company execs will continue to be greedy evil barstards looking after self interest until people send a message to them..