Two weeks for this?

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

Why don't you just shut the f*** up. Your logic belongs in the toilet. So - just supposing we all agree with you that Fyfe should have tackled or smothered...... can you please then tell us all with your "no grey area" thinking what Hunt's option was? Perhaps he should have chose to lie on the ground in the hope that the opponent tripped over him rather than laying a fair shepherd. Oh, and btw - suppose Fyfe did tackle and still created head-to-head accidental contact, how can that be any differently assessed? NFI! Accidental head contact will always happen in our great game. The irony is that Fyfe get's 2 weeks in our game for a nick above someone's eye but the poor guy that laid the NRL tackle that ACCIDENTLY put someone in a wheelchair only gets 7. At least the NRL judiciary understands intent. Our MRP was put in place to stamp out the vicious behind play stuff. But like everything else these days, these morons have got too serious about themselves and create ridiculous laws of the game like this to try to justify their last remnants of relevance to the AFL.
You opened your stupid mouth on here with a ridiculous statement and are now just too far past stupid to back down. The lawmakers of today's game are currently so far up their own arses that they might even find you there!

Rules are rules. If you break the rules then you deserve to be punished. It is good that Fyfe was suspended as it is important to stop severe head injuries. He could have not hit him in the head by not bumping, but he chose to bump.

 

[estibador]

Rules are rules. If you break the rules then you deserve to be punished. It is good that Fyfe was suspended as it is important to stop severe head injuries. He could have not hit him in the head by not bumping, but he chose to bump.

Is 2007 the year you were born by any chance?

 

[strobe00]

Don't feed the troll folks.

No one could innocently and honestly be so blatantly clueless.

 

[Xsess]

The bump is banned and everyone I speak to hates it. Fyfes heinous act amounted to standing his ground, an instinctive thing footy players are taught from under 11s. This, along with constant rule changes and negative coaches like Lyon and Roos are killing the game. Meanwhile the AFL are surprised that attendence has been so poor this year...

 

[caitsith01]

The bump is banned and everyone I speak to hates it. Fyfes heinous act amounted to standing his ground, an instinctive thing footy players are taught from under 11s. This, along with constant rule changes and negative coaches like Lyon and Roos are killing the game. Meanwhile the AFL are surprised that attendence has been so poor this year...

I just saw that footage for the first time.

It's absolutely disgusting that it was even looked at, let alone a 2 week ban.

Mind you, so was the Taylor Hunt one.

Just pathetic. Does the AFL have ANY evidence that this type of head contact poses a serious risk to players? The real risk is from repeated, severe concussions which come from hard hits with the head right over the ball, not glancing blows in contests.

PS - Taylor Adams of Collingwood elected to bump Selwood off the ball, dropped him to the ground with the force of it, and hit his jaw (Selwood confirmed in the post match interview). Big test for the integrity of the MRP system. I fully expect it will be the usual total inconsistency.

 

[Generalissimo]

I just saw that footage for the first time.

It's absolutely disgusting that it was even looked at, let alone a 2 week ban.

Mind you, so was the Taylor Hunt one.

Just pathetic. Does the AFL have ANY evidence that this type of head contact poses a serious risk to players? The real risk is from repeated, severe concussions which come from hard hits with the head right over the ball, not glancing blows in contests.

PS - Taylor Adams of Collingwood elected to bump Selwood off the ball, dropped him to the ground with the force of it, and hit his jaw (Selwood confirmed in the post match interview). Big test for the integrity of the MRP system. I fully expect it will be the usual total inconsistency.

He hit a Geelong player. Won't be looked at.

 

[HawkBurger]

The bump is banned and everyone I speak to hates it. Fyfes heinous act amounted to standing his ground, an instinctive thing footy players are taught from under 11s. This, along with constant rule changes and negative coaches like Lyon and Roos are killing the game. Meanwhile the AFL are surprised that attendence has been so poor this year...

That's from "no shows." No accountability.

 

[The Dodger]

The AFL will soon have to outlaw bumps and tackles, possibly even marking contests, if they truly are serious about getting rid of any head contact.
Any bump has the ability to create accidental head to head contact, heads can clash in a tackle.
If Jeremy Howe goes up for a mark and his foot makes contact with someones head will he be in trouble? He chose to stand on the guys head, he could have waited till the ball came to ground, he could have chosen to use his body in a marking contest rather than recklessly jumping and making contact with someones head with his shoe.

Tribunal Report: Charged with taking a speccy.
Reckless: 2 points
Low Impact: 1 point
Head contact: 2 points
5 activation points, 2 week suspension.

But will win mark of the year and the AFL will use the footage of that mark to promote the game for the following season despite it being a reportable offence.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I'm not sure of his record - but what is going to make the Fyfe/Taylor incidents worse - is Merrett getting two weeks for his hit on the weekend.

If he has carryovers he might get 3.

On par with Shaun McKernans last year

 

[Vindicater]

How in the holy hells is Fyfes hit worth the same as Merretts???

The MRP is and always has been a farce.

 

[winty]

Hawthorn appear to be getting well looked after again as May and Matera copped 1 week suspensions so two dangerous forwards to miss will make Hawthorn's job that much easier.

Hope Geelong players don't breath on their opponents or look at them the wrong way this week. Don't want to give the MRP any chances to suspend a few before Easter Monday.

 

[Balony_pony16]

I just saw that footage for the first time.

It's absolutely disgusting that it was even looked at, let alone a 2 week ban.

Mind you, so was the Taylor Hunt one.

Just pathetic. Does the AFL have ANY evidence that this type of head contact poses a serious risk to players? The real risk is from repeated, severe concussions which come from hard hits with the head right over the ball, not glancing blows in contests.

PS - Taylor Adams of Collingwood elected to bump Selwood off the ball, dropped him to the ground with the force of it, and hit his jaw (Selwood confirmed in the post match interview). Big test for the integrity of the MRP system. I fully expect it will be the usual total inconsistency.

Rockliff got 2 weeks for a walking bump off the ball...hunt should get the same. *not that I agree either should get games

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[KissKiss]

Rockliff got too much, Fyfe got too much but Merrett is very lucky. That was clearly the worst incident that the AFL should be attempting to stamp out yet effectively gets the same punishment. I'm totally lost

 

[strobe00]

They punish accidents far too hard and don't provide harsh enough penalties for intentional acts. The grading table is sh*t.

treating a head clash exactly the same as a bump on the chin with a shoulder is sh*t also. One if the other is far more likely to cause a concussion or spine damage, and that is what rough conduct is meant to wipe out.

their assessment of force is also farcical. Fyfe and hunt are graded medium for head clashes that split a bit of skin on a cheekbone. Adams gets light for a bump to the chin that puts Sellwood on his a*se, and mcveigh gets insufficient force for his shot.

stitches should not imply medium force. The hit itself should.

 

[Hawthorn United]

Was it Sam Day on Zorko... he got a week for barely anything.

 

[strobe00]

Was it Sam Day on Zorko... he got a week for barely anything.

May was the one that clotheslined Zorko. The angles I saw on the AFL site made it really hard to see the head contact. I couldn't see any.

 

[Hawthorn United]

May was the one that clotheslined Zorko. The angles I saw on the AFL site made it really hard to see the head contact. I couldn't see any.

Looked like he rushed the kicker if it was NFL.

Maybe a free kick if the kick wasn't a good one and bring it back, but wasn't worth a 1 week.

 

[strobe00]

Looked like he rushed the kicker if it was NFL.

Maybe a free kick if the kick wasn't a good one and bring it back, but wasn't worth a 1 week.

Looked fine to me, but one of the blokes on our board said Zorko had a blood nose and (I think) his cheek was bleeding so there must have been high contact. Dunno. I think the head clash rule is bl**dy stupid... the size of the penalty in particular.

 

[Bulldocker]

Was it Sam Day on Zorko... he got a week for barely anything.

The dickheads on the rules committee have painted the MRP into a corner. Starting with Fyfe and Taylor Hunt - this ridiculous, poorly thought out new rule will claim player after player every week. There will be 40 ineligible Brownlow hopes at the end of the season....... all for the disgraceful act of having an accidental head clash in a bump or shepherd. Soon as I saw the Day/Zorko incident I knew he'd be up because Zorko got a bit of a blood nose. What a far king joke. Wish these idiots would just leave the game alone. At the very least they should consult with the Players Association before ramming these howler rule changes through!

 

[IanW]

The dickheads on the rules committee have painted the MRP into a corner. Starting with Fyfe and Taylor Hunt - this ridiculous, poorly thought out new rule will claim player after player every week. There will be 40 ineligible Brownlow hopes at the end of the season....... all for the disgraceful act of having an accidental head clash in a bump or shepherd. Soon as I saw the Day/Zorko incident I knew he'd be up because Zorko got a bit of a blood nose. What a far king joke. Wish these idiots would just leave the game alone. At the very least they should consult with the Players Association before ramming these howler rule changes through!

It's really, really freaking simple.

If you are going to bump or shepherd, learn how to do it right, blocking down and keeping the heads safe.

Dont be an inept ****** and push up onto tippy-toes to create power - if you do that, the odds are your shit technique will cause head contact and you'll be rubbed out.

Yes, AFL players were allowed to get away with shit tehnique for years, but times have changed and we've realised that punch-drunk footy players is a Bad Thing.

So. If you are crap at taking pack marks,dont take pack marks - hang out the back and shark the loose ball.

If you are crap at kicking, handpass to the target instead. Dont do what you're bad at.

And if you're crap at keeping the head safe on a bump, dont bloody well bump - learn to box out basketball-style if they have the ball, or tackle rather than do a hip and shoulder.

 

[strobe00]

And if you're crap at keeping the head safe on a bump, dont bloody well bump - learn to box out basketball-style if they have the ball, or tackle rather than do a hip and shoulder.

Boxing out basketball style is pretty much exactly what Hunt tried to do.

Didn't help him.

 

[IanW]

Boxing out basketball style is pretty much exactly what Hunt tried to do.

Didn't help him.

Yeah, well, learn how to do it right, and fer chrissake, keep contact low rather than high.

 

[strobe00]

Yeah, well, learn how to do it right, and fer chrissake, keep contact low rather than high.

He was hunching down and kept his head forward when he did it. He did a lot right, and it still didn't work. The contact was low. Rich's head came forward after the body contact.

Would be bl**dy hard to shepherd a guy that's running forward, while looking away from him, and make sure his head doesn't hit the back of yours (or your back or your shoulder) as his head shifts forward after the block.

 

[IanW]

He was hunching down and kept his head forward when he did it. He did a lot right, and it still didn't work. The contact was low. Rich's head came forward after the body contact.

Would be bl**dy hard to shepherd a guy that's running forward, while looking away from him, and make sure his head doesn't hit the back of yours (or your back or your shoulder) as his head shifts forward after the block.

Yep. The rules have changed, and the right thing to do has changed with it.

 

[strobe00]

Yep. The rules have changed, and the right thing to do has changed with it.

Shepherding is an important part of team play. The rule change makes it Russian Roulette every time someone does the team thing.

It seems a simple rule change, but it has major knock on effects. The hope is that they reclarify the rule in some way to allow players to shepherd without sh*tting themselves that they'll get weeks, despite doing everything they can to avoid a head clash.

An important major issue with the Hunt case was that they opted for medium impact. Absolute friggin' joke. It was light or nothing. Identifying a suitable gauge of impact for the two quite separate types of incident (shoulder to head, or head clash) is a real issue. They definitely f*cked it up with Hunt. The rules just lob both types of contact in the same box, but they have very different likelihoods of causing concussion and neck injury. It's a mess.