I wouldn't say that too loudly mate, you're bound to be shut down by the squib police at the moment. 
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Anyone know whats happened to Fraser Mcinnes? Started the year off really well with Perth in the colts.
Tall, 196cm, CHB, has played really well for WA in past campaigns, but not playing at the moment. Must be injured?
Could work out well for us in that he may slip in the draft now. Would probably have been a first rounder.
Tall, 196cm, CHB, has played really well for WA in past campaigns, but not playing at the moment. Must be injured?
Could work out well for us in that he may slip in the draft now. Would probably have been a first rounder.
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I'll be trying my hardest to get to the double header at Skilled Stadium this Friday featuring VC, VM, SA and WA.
Then Wednesday night there is a doubl header at Etihad that i'll be planning to get to as well.
Then also next Thursday there is a Div 2 double header, all going well i will head along to the second game of the double to check out young Moller.
Then Wednesday night there is a doubl header at Etihad that i'll be planning to get to as well.
Then also next Thursday there is a Div 2 double header, all going well i will head along to the second game of the double to check out young Moller.
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Vic Metro very comfortably over SA. Wingard got concussed early for SA. Patton a lock for No 1.
Vic Country comfortably over WA at the moment too (3/4 time). O'Meara/Coniglio somewhat quiet,by their standards. Nelson and Tom Mitchell prominent for WA. Brad Hill playing again for WA. No Garlett.
Skilled Stadium remains a graveyard for interstaters.
See it for yourself: http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/17944/Default.aspx#fixtureid=5746&tab=Stats
Vic Country comfortably over WA at the moment too (3/4 time). O'Meara/Coniglio somewhat quiet,by their standards. Nelson and Tom Mitchell prominent for WA. Brad Hill playing again for WA. No Garlett.
Skilled Stadium remains a graveyard for interstaters.
See it for yourself: http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/17944/Default.aspx#fixtureid=5746&tab=Stats
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Wow, I didn't think Tom Mitchell would be making an appearance in the championships this year due to his ongoing injuries, the Swans will be very pleased with his game.
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I think its Tom's first full game for the year also. Swans will be stoked.
Finished with 28 possessions. Shane Nelson with 35 possessions.
WA smacked in the end by Vic Country. Would of been good to see our best team get on the ground with Garlett, McInnes, Kersten and others out due to injury.
The big three - O'Meara, Yarran and Coniglio quiet.
Nelson probably just well and truly put himself beyond our reach. Love the following writeup on him:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/wa-state-under-18s-who-to-watch/story-fn8bshxl-1226068022581
Finished with 28 possessions. Shane Nelson with 35 possessions.
WA smacked in the end by Vic Country. Would of been good to see our best team get on the ground with Garlett, McInnes, Kersten and others out due to injury.
The big three - O'Meara, Yarran and Coniglio quiet.
Nelson probably just well and truly put himself beyond our reach. Love the following writeup on him:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/wa-state-under-18s-who-to-watch/story-fn8bshxl-1226068022581
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Carlton choked lol
we should give matthew jupp a look in. Looks like a solid backman
U/18s Sandgropers v croweaters on fox tonite,,timeslot, it was either 630pm or 830pm Perth time.
AFL insiders lastnite were discussing potential draftees with kevin sheehan.
Sheehan was super impressed with jaeger o'meara,pointed out he has a rolls royce engine with explosive speed added,highly skilled,outside-inside midfielder.
AFL insiders lastnite were discussing potential draftees with kevin sheehan.
Sheehan was super impressed with jaeger o'meara,pointed out he has a rolls royce engine with explosive speed added,highly skilled,outside-inside midfielder.
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Im going to head down to Etihad tonight to watch the games between Vic Metro VS Vic Country followed by WA VS SA.
Free entry FTW.
Might try and take some Vids with my iPhone if i get a good seat.
Free entry FTW.
Might try and take some Vids with my iPhone if i get a good seat.
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Very interesting session that, with Sheehan identifying potential stars available in the next two drafts. SA v WA is on Fox at 6:30pm, Vic Metro v Vic Country at 3:30pm. It doesn't look like I'm getting much done today.
Half your luck RP.I'm stoked that wa v sa is on last,I get to watch it now.
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Final scores Metro 9.16 70 Country 2.10 22
Patton and Paine both look good.
Its hard to adjust your expectations when watching AFL all te time. So many marks being dropped by these kids and they seem to have no confidence. the real talented and maturer guys stand out when they use their body and back themselves.
There seems to be so many up and under kicks plus bomb-n-hope. Hopefully the youn WA boys show some more skill in the next game.
Patton and Paine both look good.
Its hard to adjust your expectations when watching AFL all te time. So many marks being dropped by these kids and they seem to have no confidence. the real talented and maturer guys stand out when they use their body and back themselves.
There seems to be so many up and under kicks plus bomb-n-hope. Hopefully the youn WA boys show some more skill in the next game.
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I posted this in another thread...
OK, so I figured I would put down some of my thoughts before I forget everything that just happened.
First off, it wasn't exactly a great game. Metro were largely unopposed for the most part, which made it hard to judge some of unlucky players who were stuck down in the Country forward line. Todd Elton for example, it wasn't his best game but he was never really in it. He had nothing going for him up forward, and he was up against Longer in the ruck. I don't think this was a true reflection of him as a player.
Speaking of talls, Jon Patton performed exactly as expected. His kicking for goal was obviously down, but everything else he did was impressive. When the ball came in well, as opposed to just random long kicks, he was unstoppable. He had Boseley beat in the air and was consistently a metre or two ahead on the lead. Boseley looked better when he was working off his man and getting involved in the play.
Having Patton up there, meant Jackson Paine could play as the second tall and as a result he was often playing on undersized opponents (Kelly and Buntine). He should have easily beaten them in contests, and he did. Marking and kicking was good, wasn't seen a lot outside of the first 10 minutes of the third quarter.
The four KPDs of note for me were Michael Talia, Piva Wright, Adam Tomlinson and Sam Frost. Talia was the pick of the bunch, worked well on the rebound and his spoiling was good on the odd occasion that Country actually went forward with meaning. Wright looked good too, although he spent much of the first half rucking. Showed a lot more agility than I thought he had and his disposal is solid. He does need to stay down back and maybe trim down a little bit, but he'll be a good player. Tomlinson and Frost were slightly disappointing, but they did have limited opportunities down back. Tomlinson didn't do anything wrong, just didn't do much. Frost is impressive athletically and always looked to go the attacking route, he showed glimpses of his potential but he just wasn't able to get involved a lot.
Staying in the back lines and Jordan Kelly, Matthew Buntine and Brandon Ellis all looked good. Buntine and Kelly in particular were asked to play taller than they should have, but Kelly showed really good attack and Buntine was excellent linking up off half back. Ellis will be an interesting one in the coming months, looks a real tough and nuggety player. Seen plenty of his type before, who don't test all that well.
Nic O'Brien and Brett O'Hanlon had decent showings across half forward for Country, both are good marks but undersized a little (189cm). O'Brien in particular was impressive, and continued his good form after a solid match against SA. He is a hard working half forward with decent skills, maybe not an early pick but a solid player.
Dom Tyson and Toby Greene were clearly the two best midfielders on the ground (along with the underaged Whitfield). Both look to be very good players, and two different types of midfielders. Greene was obviously impressive in close and his skills looked good, but Tyson was clear BOG. With a real lack of tall midfielders, I can see Tyson being really sought after come draft time. I had him around the start of the second round, but that probably wont happen anymore.
Of the two bigger names in the Metro midfield, Will Hoskin-Elliot and Liam Sumner had two very different games. Hoskin-Elliot was awesome, such an attacking player but also really strong defensively. Whereas Sumner was much quieter, he did some nice things but more importantly he didn't show the same attack and didn't do the hard things when it was his turn. It was a disappointing game from him in my opinion.
Just a couple of other guys who showed some good signs were Jack Crisp off half back for Country, and Newnes in the same role for Metro. The other one I really liked was Tim Totevski from Metro. Only 173cm but he was really clean with his hands, and showed that he could be a good small forward.
Overall, my bests would be...
Vic Metro - Dom Tyson, Toby Greene, Will Hoskin-Elliot, Billy Longer, Michael Talia, Jon Patton
Vic Country - Lachie Whitfield, Matt Buntine, Devon Smith, Nic O'Brien, Piva Wright
I'm taping the second game, so will watch that one eventually too.
OK, so I figured I would put down some of my thoughts before I forget everything that just happened.
First off, it wasn't exactly a great game. Metro were largely unopposed for the most part, which made it hard to judge some of unlucky players who were stuck down in the Country forward line. Todd Elton for example, it wasn't his best game but he was never really in it. He had nothing going for him up forward, and he was up against Longer in the ruck. I don't think this was a true reflection of him as a player.
Speaking of talls, Jon Patton performed exactly as expected. His kicking for goal was obviously down, but everything else he did was impressive. When the ball came in well, as opposed to just random long kicks, he was unstoppable. He had Boseley beat in the air and was consistently a metre or two ahead on the lead. Boseley looked better when he was working off his man and getting involved in the play.
Having Patton up there, meant Jackson Paine could play as the second tall and as a result he was often playing on undersized opponents (Kelly and Buntine). He should have easily beaten them in contests, and he did. Marking and kicking was good, wasn't seen a lot outside of the first 10 minutes of the third quarter.
The four KPDs of note for me were Michael Talia, Piva Wright, Adam Tomlinson and Sam Frost. Talia was the pick of the bunch, worked well on the rebound and his spoiling was good on the odd occasion that Country actually went forward with meaning. Wright looked good too, although he spent much of the first half rucking. Showed a lot more agility than I thought he had and his disposal is solid. He does need to stay down back and maybe trim down a little bit, but he'll be a good player. Tomlinson and Frost were slightly disappointing, but they did have limited opportunities down back. Tomlinson didn't do anything wrong, just didn't do much. Frost is impressive athletically and always looked to go the attacking route, he showed glimpses of his potential but he just wasn't able to get involved a lot.
Staying in the back lines and Jordan Kelly, Matthew Buntine and Brandon Ellis all looked good. Buntine and Kelly in particular were asked to play taller than they should have, but Kelly showed really good attack and Buntine was excellent linking up off half back. Ellis will be an interesting one in the coming months, looks a real tough and nuggety player. Seen plenty of his type before, who don't test all that well.
Nic O'Brien and Brett O'Hanlon had decent showings across half forward for Country, both are good marks but undersized a little (189cm). O'Brien in particular was impressive, and continued his good form after a solid match against SA. He is a hard working half forward with decent skills, maybe not an early pick but a solid player.
Dom Tyson and Toby Greene were clearly the two best midfielders on the ground (along with the underaged Whitfield). Both look to be very good players, and two different types of midfielders. Greene was obviously impressive in close and his skills looked good, but Tyson was clear BOG. With a real lack of tall midfielders, I can see Tyson being really sought after come draft time. I had him around the start of the second round, but that probably wont happen anymore.
Of the two bigger names in the Metro midfield, Will Hoskin-Elliot and Liam Sumner had two very different games. Hoskin-Elliot was awesome, such an attacking player but also really strong defensively. Whereas Sumner was much quieter, he did some nice things but more importantly he didn't show the same attack and didn't do the hard things when it was his turn. It was a disappointing game from him in my opinion.
Just a couple of other guys who showed some good signs were Jack Crisp off half back for Country, and Newnes in the same role for Metro. The other one I really liked was Tim Totevski from Metro. Only 173cm but he was really clean with his hands, and showed that he could be a good small forward.
Overall, my bests would be...
Vic Metro - Dom Tyson, Toby Greene, Will Hoskin-Elliot, Billy Longer, Michael Talia, Jon Patton
Vic Country - Lachie Whitfield, Matt Buntine, Devon Smith, Nic O'Brien, Piva Wright
I'm taping the second game, so will watch that one eventually too.
Who is number 32 for WA? Hutchinson? I really liked the look of him. Playing back in defense for what I saw.
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What a great game!!! WA got smashed out of the centre in the last quarter and SA were a bit too good but the skill was as good as any league AFL game I've seen lately. The running structures and the ball movement was very very good. Both teams need to be commended.
Hutchison didn't impress me too much Summerbat but Murdoch and Grundy for SA did, also Mitchell, Carter and Jupp for WA.
Hutchison didn't impress me too much Summerbat but Murdoch and Grundy for SA did, also Mitchell, Carter and Jupp for WA.
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You're right it was a terrific game. As you say the centre square work in the last quarter was dreadful. This was mostly due to the dominant SA ruckman, but I was disappointed with our mids. Mitchell has talent, but gee so many of his "possessions" are just fumbled handpass/throws out of packs. Kicked a very classy goal though.
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I think you've provided an excellent summary of the performances in the Vic Metro/Country game. With one team so dominant it can be tricky making judgements about who will do well at AFL level......apart from Whitfield who looked confident and classy while most of his team-mates looked shell-shocked.
Tyson and Greene both look to have good skill sets and I was especially impressed with Greene's smart and creative decision making, which was the the best I saw over the 2 games tonight. I can see Tyson being picked up very early in the draft, but wonder whether you think Greene might be available for Freo late in the first round.
Coniglo is going to be star.Jaeger showed glimpses of what he's going to be like, very ,very good future indeed.Swans have got a beauty in Tom Mitchell.1,6 & 19 for WA showed glimpses as well.
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Damn Sydney and their father-son rights. Mitchell is a gun. Its amazing that he has been able to step straight back in and play like that in the last two games after being out for so long with injury.
Coniglio = gun.
Nelson = disappointing last night.
WA's talls were ordinary.
A lot of kids struggled to get into the action in what was a very good standard game.
Eardley, Williams, Lockyer showed a bit.
Quite a few of WA's best players were unfortunately underage - Garlett (looks like Danyle Pearce), O'Meara, Taylor, Hutchinson.
SA's group of eligible draftees looked much better. Griff from SA looks a gun. Grundy was the best big man by some distance. Mckenzie good. SA also look to have some gun youngsters coming through for next year.
Apart from Grundy not many big men put their hand up.
Coniglio = gun.
Nelson = disappointing last night.
WA's talls were ordinary.
A lot of kids struggled to get into the action in what was a very good standard game.
Eardley, Williams, Lockyer showed a bit.
Quite a few of WA's best players were unfortunately underage - Garlett (looks like Danyle Pearce), O'Meara, Taylor, Hutchinson.
SA's group of eligible draftees looked much better. Griff from SA looks a gun. Grundy was the best big man by some distance. Mckenzie good. SA also look to have some gun youngsters coming through for next year.
Apart from Grundy not many big men put their hand up.
Eardly was jumper number 1? 1 did some nice things,gutsy mark and some damaging handballs,appears tough as nails.
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On the odd chance that someone may be interested, my thoughts on the SA/WA game...
First off, I forgot one name from the previous game. Sam Docherty for Vic Country was very good. Wasn't on the initial team sheet, so I wasn't sure of his name. But that is two very good games from him in the Championships, very clean player and definitely one to watch.
As for the second game, that was much better. Overall skills were a big improvement, and it seemed a much more open game. Some very impressive individual performances too.
BOG would have been Mitch Grigg, he was everywhere in the first quarter and really set things up for SA. He really didn't do anything wrong, his kicking was exceptional and he still went in and won his own ball and tackled hard too. He wasn't in the greatest form prior to the Championships back at Norwood, and I had questions over his ball winning. But his past few weeks have answered all that.
The other main one for SA was Brad McKenzie. Was going to be a high selection regardless, but he really showed promise further up the ground today as opposed to playing off half back. Has a great kick on him, and that was definitely on show.
SA aren't a particularly tall side, but the small and medium defenders did a great job. Luke Brown and Alex Forster were both pretty solid, and provided lots of run and attack. While they are better suited to playing up across half back, as opposed to deep, they both defended well. Rory Laird was very good, and although he is only short he has a nice set of hands on him. Looks to be a very solid defender, and one teams should look at come draft time.
There are quite a few undersized players for SA, with Lachie Neale and Jacob Carger both having good games too. Both are strong marks and with their attack on the ball, should be legitimate chances later on in the piece.
Tall wise, there wasn't a heap on show for SA. Jordan Murdoch looks and plays a lot bigger than what he was listed as (188cm). He was very impressive on the lead, and provided a real target going forward. Lewis Hender is another who plays bigger, and it might be his build but he was very strong in the forward fifty. Also very athletic for someone with his build. Aseri Raikiwasa was quiet, and didn't seem to get a lot of game time in the first half. He reads the play very well and is always composed (maybe too so at times) and definitely looks every part the footballer.
Onto WA, and it's no real surprise that it was their stars who led the way. Tom Mitchell is a very unassuming player, just racks up the touches without you even knowing. But he can play outside, and his goal really showed off his other skills. Could easily have gone another 5-10 spots earlier than the Swans first rounder. And well, Stephen Coniglio is going to be #1 for a reason.
Jordan Lockyer was very impressive too. Really good attack on the ball, doesn't look to be a defender that you'd want to mess with. The move forward was interesting, and it definitely payed off with his strong marking. Those extra strings should see him drafted, unlike some similar sized defenders last year. There wasn't much else in the way of talls for WA. Matthew Jupp showed some signs, but he got caught out by Mayes a few times and looks to be better up around CHB.
Shane Verrier and Rhys Waters played as medium forwards, and both had their moments with a good crumbing effort and strong pack mark. But neither really had an impact. Alex Howard is a very good size, and showed some nice signs. Cam Eardley was another quiet one, but what he did was very good. He is an aggressive player, but also has the skills and marking to match. Elliot Yeo was a little disappointing down back though, just seemed to be under pressure all the time and gave away some free kicks. The most disappointing was Shane Nelson though, I barely even noticed him which is a shame given some of his previous performances.
Whereas Haiden Schlothe might not have that other side. He worked hard and attacked hard, but just seemed a little sloppy. I thought he was almost a less refined version of Mitch Robinson.
The two WA players to watch (for two different reasons) for me are Marley Williams and Brandon AhChee. I thought Williams was great, just has so much natural talent but also is a ready made player. I reckon he could probably play a role right now. He was challenging Raikiwasa as my pet player in that game. AhChee on the other hand was playing his first game, and only had the four touches. But he is a very nice size and looks to be another with natural talent, could be a nice project forward/wing in the next couple of years.
As for the underaged players, Grundy absolutely dominated that last quarter. His ruck work was awesome, and pretty much won the game for SA. Garlett, Yarran, Taylor and O'Meara are going to be great players to watch, as will Mayes and Kennedy for SA. But Josh Simpson for SA was right up there with Grundy as the best underaged player for me. Looked real silky up forward, just has that effortless look to his game.
Nothing earth shattering in my bests for this game...
SA - Grigg, McKenzie, Grundy, Laird, Simpson
WA - Coniglio, Mitchell, Lockyer
First off, I forgot one name from the previous game. Sam Docherty for Vic Country was very good. Wasn't on the initial team sheet, so I wasn't sure of his name. But that is two very good games from him in the Championships, very clean player and definitely one to watch.
As for the second game, that was much better. Overall skills were a big improvement, and it seemed a much more open game. Some very impressive individual performances too.
BOG would have been Mitch Grigg, he was everywhere in the first quarter and really set things up for SA. He really didn't do anything wrong, his kicking was exceptional and he still went in and won his own ball and tackled hard too. He wasn't in the greatest form prior to the Championships back at Norwood, and I had questions over his ball winning. But his past few weeks have answered all that.
The other main one for SA was Brad McKenzie. Was going to be a high selection regardless, but he really showed promise further up the ground today as opposed to playing off half back. Has a great kick on him, and that was definitely on show.
SA aren't a particularly tall side, but the small and medium defenders did a great job. Luke Brown and Alex Forster were both pretty solid, and provided lots of run and attack. While they are better suited to playing up across half back, as opposed to deep, they both defended well. Rory Laird was very good, and although he is only short he has a nice set of hands on him. Looks to be a very solid defender, and one teams should look at come draft time.
There are quite a few undersized players for SA, with Lachie Neale and Jacob Carger both having good games too. Both are strong marks and with their attack on the ball, should be legitimate chances later on in the piece.
Tall wise, there wasn't a heap on show for SA. Jordan Murdoch looks and plays a lot bigger than what he was listed as (188cm). He was very impressive on the lead, and provided a real target going forward. Lewis Hender is another who plays bigger, and it might be his build but he was very strong in the forward fifty. Also very athletic for someone with his build. Aseri Raikiwasa was quiet, and didn't seem to get a lot of game time in the first half. He reads the play very well and is always composed (maybe too so at times) and definitely looks every part the footballer.
Onto WA, and it's no real surprise that it was their stars who led the way. Tom Mitchell is a very unassuming player, just racks up the touches without you even knowing. But he can play outside, and his goal really showed off his other skills. Could easily have gone another 5-10 spots earlier than the Swans first rounder. And well, Stephen Coniglio is going to be #1 for a reason.
Jordan Lockyer was very impressive too. Really good attack on the ball, doesn't look to be a defender that you'd want to mess with. The move forward was interesting, and it definitely payed off with his strong marking. Those extra strings should see him drafted, unlike some similar sized defenders last year. There wasn't much else in the way of talls for WA. Matthew Jupp showed some signs, but he got caught out by Mayes a few times and looks to be better up around CHB.
Shane Verrier and Rhys Waters played as medium forwards, and both had their moments with a good crumbing effort and strong pack mark. But neither really had an impact. Alex Howard is a very good size, and showed some nice signs. Cam Eardley was another quiet one, but what he did was very good. He is an aggressive player, but also has the skills and marking to match. Elliot Yeo was a little disappointing down back though, just seemed to be under pressure all the time and gave away some free kicks. The most disappointing was Shane Nelson though, I barely even noticed him which is a shame given some of his previous performances.
Whereas Haiden Schlothe might not have that other side. He worked hard and attacked hard, but just seemed a little sloppy. I thought he was almost a less refined version of Mitch Robinson.
The two WA players to watch (for two different reasons) for me are Marley Williams and Brandon AhChee. I thought Williams was great, just has so much natural talent but also is a ready made player. I reckon he could probably play a role right now. He was challenging Raikiwasa as my pet player in that game. AhChee on the other hand was playing his first game, and only had the four touches. But he is a very nice size and looks to be another with natural talent, could be a nice project forward/wing in the next couple of years.
As for the underaged players, Grundy absolutely dominated that last quarter. His ruck work was awesome, and pretty much won the game for SA. Garlett, Yarran, Taylor and O'Meara are going to be great players to watch, as will Mayes and Kennedy for SA. But Josh Simpson for SA was right up there with Grundy as the best underaged player for me. Looked real silky up forward, just has that effortless look to his game.
Nothing earth shattering in my bests for this game...
SA - Grigg, McKenzie, Grundy, Laird, Simpson
WA - Coniglio, Mitchell, Lockyer
