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Good to see the paddies forced into the play offs.
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I’ve never read a more inept and bias short thesis regarding WWII everLol, please don't comment on something like military history, when it seems you are both ill informed about it.
France were the furthest thing from a total joke in the late 1930's, they had arguably the best armed forces in the world in the late 1930's, they were absolutely formidable. They certainly shat all over the British Army at the time of the start of the war and on paper all over the Germany Army as well.
Their undoing was the complete surprise attack through the Ardennes in a giant pincer movement by the German Army using Blitzkrieg which nobody had encountered at the time which completely annihilated them in essentially one whole action. Remembering the British would of gone the way of the French had it not been for an absolute 1-1,000,000 miracle and Hitler's incompetence at Dunkirk, the same pincer movement which destroyed the French had entrapped the entire British army as well.
With any other countries commander in WW2 at the head of German Armed Forces, Britian lose the war right there in 1940. Hitler waited and bowed to Goring's vanity with the Luftwaffe and probably as a result cost them the war. Any other commander keeps charging on, drives Britain into the sea and probably take 200k+ POW's in the process. Churchill only estimated evacuating 40,000 men from Dunkirk.
It took a further 2 years until Stalingrad and over 1 million apposing soldiers in an urban war to halt Blitzkreig.
Britain needed the USA & Canada in support in 1944, essentially 3.5 years later to take the Germans on head to head on land in Western Europe again.
Also remember the French abandoned Paris because they didn't want to see it bombed like the Germans did to Rotterdam when they invaded it.
We should be eternally grateful to the French for maintaining a city so culturally important as Paris, people hang s**t on them for surrendering when they don't actually understand the sacrifice they made. They loved their city too much to see it destroyed, they would rather submit under an invading force like the Germans than see it leveled.
As to the second point:
There's a massive misconception about the mechanized nature of the German Army during WWII, 90% of their logistical movements were done by horses, in complete comparison to the fully mechanized armies of Britain and the USA. Tanks that ran out of fuel were left by the road side, the German military mirrored the WW1 force in terms of their supply chain. This is common knowledge and came as a complete shock to Allied command as the war got deeper and deeper.
They used over 2.5 milion horses in WW2.
So you have it completely back to front I'm afraid.
Not bad considering we drew with Liechtenstein in Greece.Andonis1997 at least you guys are in the playoffs.
Even though I studied WWII at college. Carry on being the ignoramus you are
FO English.Good to see the paddies forced into the play offs.
Not yet. They are in a draw for the C4 slot.Andonis1997 at least you guys are in the playoffs.
Not yet. They are in a draw for the C4 slot.
EDIT: Actually I'm pretty sure they are eliminated.
Not yet. They are in a draw for the C4 slot.
EDIT: Actually I'm pretty sure they are eliminated.
Playoffs are in March, flying to Ireland this weekend so I'll be getting a ticket for whatever game hopefully.I'm sure there's a war thread elsewhere on bigfooty where this WW2 neckbeard discussion can continue.
All the big guns through to the Euros. Then again you have to be real s**t not to get in a tournament of 24 teams (Holland in 2016 for example).
Ireland v Northern Ireland still a possibility.
This is an incredibly bizarre interpretation of events.Lol, please don't comment on something like military history, when it seems you are both ill informed about it.
France were the furthest thing from a total joke in the late 1930's, they had arguably the best armed forces in the world in the late 1930's, they were absolutely formidable. They certainly shat all over the British Army at the time of the start of the war and on paper all over the Germany Army as well.
Their undoing was the complete surprise attack through the Ardennes in a giant pincer movement by the German Army using Blitzkrieg which nobody had encountered at the time which completely annihilated them in essentially one whole action. Remembering the British would of gone the way of the French had it not been for an absolute 1-1,000,000 miracle and Hitler's incompetence at Dunkirk, the same pincer movement which destroyed the French had entrapped the entire British army as well.
With any other countries commander in WW2 at the head of German Armed Forces, Britian lose the war right there in 1940. Hitler waited and bowed to Goring's vanity with the Luftwaffe and probably as a result cost them the war. Any other commander keeps charging on, drives Britain into the sea and probably take 200k+ POW's in the process. Churchill only estimated evacuating 40,000 men from Dunkirk.
It took a further 2 years until Stalingrad and over 1 million apposing soldiers in an urban war to halt Blitzkreig.
Britain needed the USA & Canada in support in 1944, essentially 3.5 years later to take the Germans on head to head on land in Western Europe again.
Also remember the French abandoned Paris because they didn't want to see it bombed like the Germans did to Rotterdam when they invaded it.
We should be eternally grateful to the French for maintaining a city so culturally important as Paris, people hang s**t on them for surrendering when they don't actually understand the sacrifice they made. They loved their city too much to see it destroyed, they would rather submit under an invading force like the Germans than see it leveled.
As to the second point:
There's a massive misconception about the mechanized nature of the German Army during WWII, 90% of their logistical movements were done by horses, in complete comparison to the fully mechanized armies of Britain and the USA. Tanks that ran out of fuel were left by the road side, the German military mirrored the WW1 force in terms of their supply chain. This is common knowledge and came as a complete shock to Allied command as the war got deeper and deeper.
They used over 2.5 milion horses in WW2.
So you have it completely back to front I'm afraid.
How did we still have a chance at making the playoffs then? Was that if Serbia wasn't the best-placed 3rd place team?Yeah, Greece have been eliminated. Bosnia finished fourth in the group but are in the playoffs as the winners of their UEFA Nationals League group.
How did we still have a chance at making the playoffs then? Was that if Serbia wasn't the best-placed 3rd place team?
What the hell.
What a mess the qualifying is. Trying to wrap my head around it was a pain. Slovenia, Greece and Albania can consider themselves very hard done by