****** Umpires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TradeDraft]

Oh dear. I could name as many poor umpiring decision against us or ones that we didn't get.

Also would love to hear them and how it impact the Game?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Umpiring was poor but the only one that really mattered was disallowing Pendlebury to take advantage.

They have been paying advantage all year - often when there has been no advantage, and when the ultimate advantage is taken, its disallowed.

That was the winning goal.

 

[danielnajdek]

Umpiring was poor but the only one that really mattered was disallowing Pendlebury to take advantage.

They have been paying advantage all year - often when there has been no advantage, and when the ultimate advantage is taken, its disallowed.

That was the winning goal.

Thats what annoyed me especially seeing the Brandon Matera advantage last week against the Lions.Ruckman tapped down to Pendles , Pendles kicks the goal.All in one motion.No stopping of play then going on to kick the goal.Should've been allowed.Can't wait to see Giesch defend this decision

 

[muttonchops]

Boo freaking hoo.

They love it when it goes their way but can't take it coming back the other.

Take the good with the bad.

 

[danielnajdek]

Boo freaking hoo.

Typical Collingwood whinging. They love it when it goes their way but can't take it coming back the other.

Take the good with the bad.

Good theory apart from the fact we always get the raw deal with the umps.Can't remember last time we got more frees then the opposition.Might've been 2003

 

[Swooop]

Just thought I would share my two cents. Firstly, Geelong deserved the win entirely. They shat all over us in every aspect of the game. Now I don't like bantering the umps, but in this game particularly, there were tons of shockers that may have changed the dynamics of the game through score board pressure. Yes, maybe if the frees were given to us, we could have won. However, I believe that Geelong looked more hungry for the win and we looked like we were ready for a P & O cruise; well certain players did anyway.

Here's the positives for us, and there are plenty of them. Firstly, we were missing at least six of our best last night, and a few of their replacements weren't doing justice (e.g. Dick). Secondly, I have found that over the last 7 games, we haven't even kicked into 6th gear; we have mostly been playing in 2nd or 3rd. Yet, we still have been winning. Thirdly, this loss was way overdue. We needed it big time. Just like a fire renews bushland, this loss will surely renew the side and I believe from this, that "6th gear", will be reached. Lastly, Geelong won by 3 points. Considering all the elements above, theres nothing to be concerned about with this loss in my mind. We have much more to improve on then the Cats do. Seriously, we lead them at one stage without all those elements above in place. They played their best, we didn't. We DONT want to be peaking right now! Thus, its all positives in my mind.

So Congrats to Cats. Enjoy the win. You deserved it. Remember though its Round 8 .......Premierships are won in October, not May.

This is a seriously good post I think..well done yidaki, you should post more often

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The one obvious thing about Collingwood is that Cameron Wood is not who you want in the finals. Darren Jolly is super important for you.

Cam Wood was excellent last night - he set up the winning goal that Pendlebury had disallowed.

He had 23 hitouts to Ottens' 30......nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[littlemisscat]

I'm sick of hearing how collingwood gets a soft draw... Sure Geelong have travelled interstate 3 times this year already... Collingwood has to go from the westpac centre to the mcg every week... Punt Road gets very busy you know!

Also... Isnt the reason collingwood lost because Cameron Wood missed a shot at goal from a soft free kick? Geelong missed plenty of set shots... is that also the umpires fault?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Also... Isnt the reason collingwood lost because Cameron Wood missed a shot at goal from a soft free kick? Geelong missed plenty of set shots... is that also the umpires fault?

It wasnt a soft free kick. Wood got position and earnt the free kick. From 50 metres out in those conditions he was no chance of making the distance.

Its the umpires fault that advantage wasnt paid.

 

[danielnajdek]

I'm sick of hearing how collingwood gets a soft draw... Sure Geelong have travelled interstate 3 times this year already... Collingwood has to go from the westpac centre to the mcg every week... Punt Road gets very busy you know!

Also... Isnt the reason collingwood lost because Cameron Wood missed a shot at goal from a soft free kick? Geelong missed plenty of set shots... is that also the umpires fault?

Some people just amaze me.You seriously came on our board to write this garbage.Go back to your board and join in the jerk off over Selwood over there

 

[HFF]

The treatment of Dawes throughout I thought was disgraceful.

Taking nothing away from Geelong, they did receive so many 50/50 decisions that we did not receive on a 'square-up" and it did take its toll on us. I'd love to see someone like Luke Ball get looked after like Joel Selwood/Jimmy Bartel.

The Pendles non-advantage was also rubbish.

Again, we didn't deserve win but we were on the receiving end of plenty throughout.

 

[hoddo22]

Don't worry about the umpires. I'd be more concerned about the contributions (lack of them actually) from four of the so-called elite players. Didak, Ball, Cloke and Dawes had minimal effect on the game. Don't go saying Didak was injured either. It was early and he played out the game.

 

[Territory Magpie]

I'm sick of hearing how collingwood gets a soft draw... Sure Geelong have travelled interstate 3 times this year already... Collingwood has to go from the westpac centre to the mcg every week... Punt Road gets very busy you know!

Also... Isnt the reason collingwood lost because Cameron Wood missed a shot at goal from a soft free kick? Geelong missed plenty of set shots... is that also the umpires fault?

Try and stick to the topic, littlemisstroll. We're discussing umpiring, not fixtures. And on Wood's shot, the point being made is he shouldn't have even been required to take the shot, because of Pendlebury's goal after play on to advantage.

 

[kingbaz]

Tonights game was decided by one thing, shithouse umpiring!!! this is not an excuse or deflection, any person with a half decent knowlege of footy could see we were totally screwed over in the 50/50 decisions, Turtle Selwood is a cheat and a blight on the game and i dont know how he sleeps at night, a dog of the purest form.
All in all we didnt play at 100% and i can handle us being beaten fair and square but those ******ts masquarading as umpires screwed us royaly and that was the difference.

Agree, Selwood would be the first choice for pluck a duck on Hey Hey.

He is a great player when he is not playing for frees which unfortunately is about 80% of his game.
The last time is was this annoyed was watching the Velvet Sledge Hammer play.
We were slow and soft for the first half but Pendles goal should have been allowed!
Robbed by the yellow tic-tac brigade!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Luke Ball needs retraining. He needs to learn to drop the knees, lift the arms, and dive. He also needs to learn the art of headbutting an opponent in the torso whilst in possesion of the ball.

He's far too honest.

 

[danielnajdek]

Don't worry about the umpires. I'd be more concerned about the contributions (lack of them actually) from four of the so-called elite players. Didak, Ball, Cloke and Dawes had minimal effect on the game. Don't go saying Didak was injured either. It was early and he played out the game.

Agree about Didak he was disgraceful especially one very soft attempt

Thought Ball was okay just got r*ped by the umps all night.Gets his head ripped off every week yet doesn't get the frees that Judd and Selwood get.Also gets pinged for holding the ball when he is going hard for the ball.

Cloke was okay kicked a couple on a wet,slippery and windy night.And Dawes was being held by I think it was Lonergan all night.Didn't get the chance to go up for marks cause he was being held by his arms.Only got protection with one late in the last quarter.

Anyways if I was you I'd be more concerned about Eddie Betts getting a kick in a big game.Never gets near it when you guys play a half decent side.

 

[larrikan]

Feeling like you've been robbed of a game because of a singular umpiring decision is really shitty. I remember all too well the game against the Saints in the finals last year. When Lingy's goal was disallowed and we lost the game by less than a kick.
But I had to ask myself after that game: If we had to rely on a single play going our way seconds before the final siren to win the game, did we really deserve to win it?
As soon as I saw the quarter-time score tonight with all the shots we had missed, I thought there was no way we would win. No way you kick that many behinds against the reigning premiers and then still win the game. They just won't let that happen. Kicking points, after all, is bad footy, just like flooding, like not putting in second and third efforts, like not putting on any defensive pressure. You don't usually get away with it in the modern game.
But for some reason, we did. Collingwood got ahead. They had their chances. They missed a few critical shots as well, which gave us a chance to nudge ahead once more.
I haven't been able to watch the replay yet so I can't say much about the disallowed goal. But what I can say, is that if you rely on a single play like that to win the game, then either way, the game is pretty much a lottery, and either side probably deserves to be the victor.
It hurts when you get so close but still lose. But it doesn't really change anything. You're still one of the best (if not the best) team in the league. You're still going to be top 4, if not finish first. You're probably going to get into the GF this year and you're probably going to win it.
All we learned tonight is that last year's final between our two sides might not have been as clear an indication of the relative difference between the two teams as people thought. After all, a blockbuster in front of a sell-out crowd is better than an 80-point drubbing, I'm sure you will all agree.
Good luck for the rest of the season.

-a Geelong fan who realises that not all Collingwood supporters are tarred with the same brush as the moron who started this thread.

+1 well said...the frustration with the Pendlebury decision is the inconsistency...as for costing us the match, well, Geelong were severely penalized when Johnson had players forward of him everywhere inside 50 when the Toovey injury stopped play...

I am frustrated at the treatment of Luke Ball vs Joel Selwood...Ball gets smashed and penalized consistently...Selwood (champion that he is) gets the same treatment and free kick everytime...I don't understand it.

As for Dawes and holding...see Barry Hall and co...all the big blokes get no help from the umpires...some how umpires seem to think it evens up a contest I guess..wrong but Dawes is going to get this treatment every week.
The 50/50 decisions tonight went Geelongs way...next week they may go our way BUT in a 3 point game a case can be made for both sides to win. Geelong executed skills better tonight when they needed too...they kicked 5 of the last 7 goals!...Both sides are daylight ahead of the rest of the competition.

 

[hoddo22]

[/quote]Anyways if I was you I'd be more concerned about Eddie Betts getting a kick in a big game.Never gets near it when you guys play a half decent side.


You learn to get used to that!!!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

+1 well said...the frustration with the Pendlebury decision is the inconsistency...as for costing us the match, well, Geelong were severely penalized when Johnson had players forward of him everywhere inside 50 when the Toovey injury stopped play....

You cant help injury. If a stretcher is required then play has to stop as soon as play comes anywhere near the vicinity of the injured players.

Bad luck for Geelong but layer welfare is paramount.

 

[danielnajdek]

Anyways if I was you I'd be more concerned about Eddie Betts getting a kick in a big game.Never gets near it when you guys play a half decent side.


You learn to get used to that!!![/quote]

Guess that's the Carlton way huh

 

[bobby_diggy]

Also... Isnt the reason collingwood lost because Cameron Wood missed a shot at goal from a soft free kick? Geelong missed plenty of set shots... is that also the umpires fault?

Sound logic you use there. A soft free kick which, if it the umpire didn't pay, results in a Collingwood goal from the play on due to Wood's good work in winning the hitout to Pendlebury.

It was a good game and Geelong deserved the win after beating Collingwood in the pressure statistics. Unfortunately Collingwood don't get to test themselves against Geelong until the finals, assuming the season goes as one would expect, due to the dead rubber in round 24.

 

[jerry springer]

To all the trolls out there, enjoy your day in the sun. We'll have ours again.

Geelong were better than us tonight.

The umpires had some howlers either way, but as a general rule applied a different threshold to pay free kicks I think.

The worst of the umpiring was unpaid frees against Dawes, but big guys often suffer that.

That's no shock really they've done it quite often this year eg GC have a very low threshold.
AFL likes even games is my opinion.

We'll be much better for that loss, we needed it badly IMO.

yep sucks to lose,but might switch the boys on a bit

we will smash geelong in the finals

 

[Ant85]

Umpires were very poor, that's clear.

Umpires made crucial errors at crucial times, again very poor. Why this is poor is because AFL umpires are the most skilled out of all the umpires running around in Australian Rules, and should know exactly how to manage the crucial moments of the game.

If the free kick is in doubt, DO NOT PAY IT! What I saw last night was umpires making decisions based on assumption. They assumed it was high, rather than being certain. And that is evident by the fact that a lot of the free kicks they paid weren't there.

You never assume in umpiring, you're either 100% sure or you're not. If you're 99% sure, you don't pay the free kick.

On this level, the umpiring was atrocious. Of course, there's little accountability for umpires, as opposed to players. If a player has a shit game, he'll probably be dropped the next week. If an umpire has a shit game, they'll still be back next week and will get their daily pay.

This aspect of umpiring has to change. They need to be more accountable for their poor performances.

AFL stats reveal on average an umpire makes 3 errors per game, that's 9 wrong free kicks in total in a match (this includes frees missed). I think it's fair to say that all 3 umpires were above that average last night, which is incredibly disappointing.

The above, however, was my analysis of the umpiring. This in no way detracts from the disappointing performance of our team last night, and the impressive show the Cats displayed.

Geelong deserved to win, and they did. The umpires weren't the reason we were poor.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Tonights game was decided by one thing, shithouse umpiring!!! this is not an excuse or deflection, any person with a half decent knowlege of footy could see we were totally screwed over in the 50/50 decisions, Turtle Selwood is a cheat and a blight on the game and i dont know how he sleeps at night, a dog of the purest form.
All in all we didnt play at 100% and i can handle us being beaten fair and square but those ******ts masquarading as umpires screwed us royaly and that was the difference.

i am sure joel selwood sleeps right next to his AFL players association most corageous player award just fine thanks, when you are a better contested football side like geelong are and you get in and under more the free kicks will come, its common sense, the team that controls the game more is going to get the free kicks given and thats what geelong did

you can sulk about the umpiring all you like but the simple fact is you got out played and where very flattered by the final margin

you can sulk all you want about every iff and butt advantage this free kick that, we made more errors than you did and still took the 4 points.

its simple, we out played you and were the better team

 

[hellfire]

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its simple, we out played you and were the better team

Yes you were. Just like you were this time last year. See you in round 24.