Roast Umpiring: Corruption or Incompetence, or both

[bomberclifford]

Dermott Brereton "He did well not to give away a free kick there"

I wasnt sure if he was talking about Maynard or Razor Ray

Clearly he was talking about Robbie.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[ibd77]

One can only imagine how this would show up the AFL for matching fixing when each Port action gets microscopic reviews vs any Victorian team with "oh nothing to see here, just play on".

 

[OneGreatClub]

One can only imagine how this would show up the AFL for matching fixing when each Port action gets microscopic reviews vs any Victorian team with "oh nothing to see here, just play on".

Sometimes I feel we are marginalised and basically powerless.

 

[LeoMessi]

I don't believe that Ray or any of the AFL umpires are corrupt. Saying they're corrupt is imply that they are receiving incentives, monetary or otherwise, outside of the remuneration they receive for umpiring from the AFL to manipulate the result of games, ie match fixing.

If that was happening without the AFL being a party to it then the umpiring performance we saw yesterday, and we see quite regularly, would result in the AFL not selecting those umpires for AFL duty the following week. The fact that AFL is quite OK with the way our games are being umpired indicates to me that the umpires are simply following instructions from the AFL to manipulate results to meet the AFL's agenda. That agenda may be ensuring that "interstate" teams don't play finals or it may be punishing us for the stand on wearing the Prison Bars.

That may sound like tinfoil hat talk but how else do you explain that the AFL sees no issue with repeated obvious umpiring mistakes and glaring inconsistencies?

How about AFL sanction corruption? Maybe the AFL needing a win for Collingwood to rejuvenate interest from their fan base as 23k to their game isn’t a good look for the game. And what better than against a team that’s “up there” as deemed by some.
The umpiring was a daylight robbery and all due to the loudmouth midget. If you think that a billion dollar industry doesn’t try to protect its investment, then you must see things in black and white

 

[Malibu#27]

I may sit down and go through it when I have a free hour or so, but I have a suspicion that the free kick counts aren’t always accurate.

During the port v bulldogs game the count was something like 10-11 at one point when I checked. Shortly after there was a 2 minute period where the bulldogs got three quick frees - I checked back soon after and the count was 10-12.

 

[Steve Dore]

How about AFL sanction corruption? Maybe the AFL needing a win for Collingwood to rejuvenate interest from their fan base as 23k to their game isn’t a good look for the game. And what better than against a team that’s “up there” as deemed by some.
The umpiring was a daylight robbery and all due to the loudmouth midget. If you think that a billion dollar industry doesn’t try to protect its investment, then you must see things in black and white

What is AFL sanctioned corruption?

The AFL instructing the umpires to do their best to engineer a Collingwood win a to satisfy their agenda is what I am talking about in my previous post. Not sure what part of my post you are disagreeing with other than the meaning of "corruption".

 

[backtozero]

What is AFL sanctioned corruption?

The AFL instructing the umpires to do their best to engineer a Collingwood win a to satisfy their agenda is what I am talking about in my previous post. Not sure what part of my post you are disagreeing with other than the meaning of "corruption".

I think he's agreeing with you.

 

[Waspy79]

umpires precisely dictate momentum every minute of every game to reach their desired outcome. to me the final wake-up was the blatantly fixed Dogs v Swans Granny. nothing has been the same since and the AFL game has plummeted down the ranks in terms of how good a spectacle it is since.

Has happened as far back as 93 when cows were umpired out of the prelim final. 1 free kick in the second half I believe. Can’t say that upsets me but it is an injustice.

 

[FishingRick04]

What is AFL sanctioned corruption?

The AFL instructing the umpires to do their best to engineer a Collingwood win a to satisfy their agenda is what I am talking about in my previous post. Not sure what part of my post you are disagreeing with other than the meaning of "corruption".

That Unrewarded Boak tackle on Sidebottom was blatant

 

[ibd77]

That I rewarded Boak tackle on Sidebottom was blatant

So it's happening. The AFL's incompetence if overriding their ability to be corrupt.

 

[It Just Is]

What about when we were paid a free kick but instead of the Collingwood player giving the ball back, they placed it on the ground 15m from the mark and ran away? Then his teammate (Adams?) decides to remonstrate with the Port player who tries to retrieve the ball. How TF that isn't a 50m penalty is beyond me.

Or when the ball hit the post and as Jonas when went to collect it to take the kick in Sidebottom volleyed the ball it into the crowd.

Teams do everything to slow play down and the umpires haven’t caught on.

 

[backtozero]

Or when the ball hit the post and as Jonas when went to collect it to take the kick in Sidebottom volleyed the ball it into the crowd.

Teams do everything to slow play down and the umpires haven’t caught on.

They know.

 

[Eighteen Seventy]

SPP being told he wasn't allowed to start off his line was an absolute beauty.

Have they even admitted that they got this one wrong yet? Then they literally let Collingwood do exactly what SPP wanted to do after the siren! Just imagine if it was Dusty in SPP's shoes and the media outrage that would follow instantly.

 

[LeoMessi]

What is AFL sanctioned corruption?

The AFL instructing the umpires to do their best to engineer a Collingwood win a to satisfy their agenda is what I am talking about in my previous post. Not sure what part of my post you are disagreeing with other than the meaning of "corruption".

I’ll be honest, I only read the first sentence before I started to reply to you So, we’re in agreement essentially

 

[LeoMessi]

I was at the game on Sunday and all I could overhear wobbles supporter talking about was the “missed” free for Grundy in the dying stages as if that’s why they lost the game. What an bunch of abhorrent losers.

 

[AdamMarrett]

Good to see Gerard Whateley call it out on AFL 360 last night that these umpires are just bottling calls in tight games, and aren't performing up to the level required. Glad it's finally been brought up as a topic that's a issue in the game, and by someone in the media who has some clout in that platform.

No doubt Gerard will likely get a call from the AFL about it, but it's time it's made its way into the public forum in footy circles. It can't continue the way it's going.

 

[LK Metro]

Ray Chamberlain is the worst most corrupt umpire in this business franchise.

Is he still waiting for someone to nominate for the ruck contest with Dixon? Surely some of you remember that. I think he asked 4 or 5 times who was competing for Collingwood.

Christ, I think people have waited less time when expecting a cheque in the mail.

 

[Powerade 08]

Is he still waiting for someone to nominate for the ruck contest with Dixon? Surely some of you remember that. I think he asked 4 or 5 times who was competing for Collingwood.

Christ, I think people have waited less time when expecting a cheque in the mail.

I remember us not being allowed to nominate a ruck for one contest.

 

[backtozero]

They dropped Ray for finals because he wasn't up to it and partly because he can't bounce the ball for shit. For some reason if youre not good enough for finals, you're still good enough for the regular season.

 

[Jack_1870]

Has happened as far back as 93 when cows were umpired out of the prelim final. 1 free kick in the second half I believe. Can’t say that upsets me but it is an injustice.

Andrew Jarman missing that set shot from a few metres out didn't help. So funny.

 

[robbo1981]

I'm sick of hearing their voices shut the **** up and maybe constraint on getting it right.

 

[Lagooner]

Video refs would be awful. Just look at the Potatovision they currently use for score reviews. Practically worthless. Throw in the inherent grey area of many rules and it just isn’t going to work.

They need to remove the grey areas, or at least reduce them. For example f@&k off the deliberate OOB rule and either make it last touch or go back to just on the full. Pick one, the hybrid bullshit that requires mind-reading is a joke.

And actually enforce the clear cut rules we already have FFS e.g. throwing the ball, kicking in danger. I don’t care if it leads to 100 frees per game if they’re there call them.

 

[Steve Dore]

Camry Crows' paying $4.60 for the win.


Clear holding the ball against the Camry Crows not paid leading to Ted's goal which puts them in front with minutes to go.

Deliberate out of bounds not paid against Camry Crows that if paid would most likely lead to a draw or a Melbourne win. AFL acknowledges that the deliberate out of bounds should have been paid.

Nothing to see here.

 

[Gryllis]

Would be a great time for AFL 360 or similar to return to talking about the confusion around HTB. Just show that Boak on Sidebottom non-call on repeat and ask for an explanation as to what the rule actually is. Hard to ignore the blatant cheating, or an umpire who should be retired permanently if it was just an awful decision, if it actually gets some air time.