Umpiring

[Boston tiger]

Anybody know if there is a difference in the free kick differential between when we wear the all yellow. ?

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Biggest problem atm is that the majority of umpires are dweebie little guys that seem to crave power over the players and also thrive on crowd approval, look at the GWS game, our only one sided home crowd and we get the run of the green.

So they need to higher big muscular guys as umps?

They will think twice about questioning ump decisions with the umps standing over them!

 

[59Stanley]

posted this in the oppo thread but relevant here for people that wanna have a melt

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Thing of horrible beauty well done !

 

[Antzzz]

When betting sites are the major sponsor and AFL CEOs leave to get a job in gambling. Then is it any wonder umpiring cannot be criticised. Don't fool yourself, when easy money is there to be made corruption will run rife.

History shows you when betting gets into a sport corruption is not far behind it

 

[LOZWILDA]

We can not win games if we are giving the opposing teams the ball so much.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

 

[Muddiemoose]

Problem seems that no one holds the umpires accountable, fair enough we don’t want players abusing them and

I can even even see why they don’t want coaches publicly commenting on decisions (I don’t agree but I can see the logic)

But with this in place who actually can give the umpires a clip over the head and give realistic feedback on how they are performing
It should be the AFL keeping them accountable but it sure as **** doesn't appear that they are doing it

 

[Groupie_]

3aw reporting as a top story that hawks fans are complaining about the umpiring on social media nothing about our game which had probably 350,000 more people complaining on social media

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Great analysis MR thank you. I challenge you to look a bit deeper and see how many were missed and add that to the numbers it could look even worse ! Watching the game I felt they were being marched up the field on occasions and we on occasions had the wind taken out of our sails when a free could have gone our way. I know it doesnt happen but anyone watching that would have thought there was a fix on.

Hopefully I should have time for this project this week. I would love to go through and timestamp each incident and get k31th to produce some gifs for us so we are in a beter position to a) judge, and b) show others.

My colleague watched the game in full and said he didn’t notice anything untoward bar Lynch getting a charity goal until the 2 or 3 kicks Richmond missed out on when the umps swallowed their whistles at the end. I would be very interested to see if a person like him would change his view if he could see clear video evidence.

 

[Muddiemoose]

3aw reporting as a top story that hawks fans are complaining about the umpiring on social media nothing about our game which had probably 350,000 more people complaining on social media

Probably just due to the fact it was the last game of the round
Easier to talk about when it’s fresh in everyone’s mind

 

[Roksman]

Say what you want about Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

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but he's absolutely nailed it and the only one with the balls to call it out.

 

[Truetiger]

What’s the point in Richmond laying a tackle, when we all know the decision PLay the F on lol.

 

[59Stanley]

Hopefully I should have time for this project this week. I would love to go through and timestamp each incident and get k31th to produce some gifs for us so we are in a beter position to a) judge, and b) show others.

My colleague watched the game in full and said he didn’t notice anything untoward bar Lynch getting a charity goal until the 2 or 3 kicks Richmond missed out on when the umps swallowed their whistles at the end. I would be very interested to see if a person like him would change his view if he could see clear video evidence.

I would welcome any further work you do on it. This game has really caught my eye as it was blatant favouring of Adelaide to the point of RFC actually needing to go to the league for a please explain.Get rid of that colleague by the way. Would be interested in your view of the Doodee free kick i think in Q4 i watched it 10 times and still cant work out what it was paid for. That 15-1 run was an absolute killer as you have pointed out.

 

[59Stanley]

Say what you want about Kane Cornes but he's absolutely nailed it and the only one with the balls to call it out.

He has nailed it Roks. Why are they doing this to the game, the AFL needs to poll the punters to do a temp check and i truly believe they would find out some home truths. Someone mentioned the other day that there is a bigger agenda at play and that is future litigation pertaining to injury caused by rule change "inaction". God help us.

 

[Jack5]

At this point I'd be happy with a robot algorithm making onfield umpiring decisions instead of a human. They would get way more decisions wrong but would at least be neutral.

 

[Dreamend]

Definitely agree with some of the calls. It's less about what is called and about what isn't.

In a game so much about momentum these days, if you don't get rewarded for good tackles and obvious freekicks when they're, you're going to have to play so clean.

Also love seeing Himmelberg getting big props everywhere when gifted two shots at goal.

 

[Wooden Robot]

I read some nonsense last night about some media person saying 'AFL coaches had noticed a lift in respect for umpires at the grassroots level as a result of the measures introduced by the AFL this year'.
What a lot of dribble.
There's likely always been way more respect between country and suburban players and umpires than at the top level.
Put simply, especially at the country level where I'm involved, umpires are not just officials, they are members of their community, who socialise and work in their community.
You're more likely to bump into your friendly 'man in fluro green and grey' at the race track, or down at the pub having a few cold ones, or down the street at the shops - or you simply know them well.
Stripping it back to basics, respect is a two-way street and if you are acquainted with someone and are treated s equals, there's likely to be plenty of that R E S P E C T.
And there's a relationship of sorts.
Went to a local game on Good Friday, was refreshing seeing umpires and players converse in a non-intimidatory way during the game and see them mingle for a beer in the rooms after the game.
The odd player throws a tantrum, but it's quickly forgotten and we all move in.
The AFL has forgotten it's a two-way street and has now cultivated a culture of 1920s-like policemen or school principals lecturing, disciplining and admonishing a young kid.
Amazing to think in a world forever preaching inclusion and respect, little if any is being shown towards the real stars of the games, the players.
The AFL has elevated the AFL umpiring fraternity to immortals and untouchables, but as a consequence respect for both the men and women blowing the whistles and waving the flags and the AFL organisation, in general, has all but disappeared.
And there is simply no relationship between players and umpires anymore.
They've created a monster of their own doing.

 

[This Is Anfield]

I read some nonsense last night about some media person saying 'AFL coaches had noticed a lift in respect for umpires at the grassroots level as a result of the measures introduced by the AFL this year'.
What a lot of dribble.
There's likely always been way more respect between country and suburban players and umpires than at the top level.
Put simply, especially at the country level where I'm involved, umpires are not just officials, they are members of their community, who socialise and work in their community.
You're more likely to bump into your friendly 'man in fluro green and grey' at the race track, or down at the pub having a few cold ones, or down the street at the shops - or you simply know them well.
Stripping it back to basics, respect is a two-way street and if you are acquainted with someone and are treated s equals, there's likely to be plenty of that R E S P E C T.
And there's a relationship of sorts.
Went to a local game on Good Friday, was refreshing seeing umpires and players converse in a non-intimidatory way during the game and see them mingle for a beer in the rooms after the game.
The odd player throws a tantrum, but it's quickly forgotten and we all move in.
The AFL has forgotten it's a two-way street and has now cultivated a culture of 1920s-like policemen or school principals lecturing, disciplining and admonishing a young kid.
Amazing to think in a world forever preaching inclusion and respect, little if any is being shown towards the real stars of the games, the players.
The AFL has elevated the AFL umpiring fraternity to immortals and untouchables, but as a consequence respect for both the men and women blowing the whistles and waving the flags and the AFL organisation, in general, has all but disappeared.
And there is simply no relationship between players and umpires anymore.
They've created a monster of their own doing.

Find it hard to disagree with anything there

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

...Amazing to think in a world forever preaching inclusion and respect, little if any is being shown towards the real stars of the games, the players...
So true...

 

[biaseddustyfan]

apparently the AFL has said that every single arms up should have been a free/50 on the weekend. means there is going to be about 100 of these incidents next round

 

[Ctl]

I read some nonsense last night about some media person saying 'AFL coaches had noticed a lift in respect for umpires at the grassroots level as a result of the measures introduced by the AFL this year'.
What a lot of dribble.
There's likely always been way more respect between country and suburban players and umpires than at the top level.
Put simply, especially at the country level where I'm involved, umpires are not just officials, they are members of their community, who socialise and work in their community.
You're more likely to bump into your friendly 'man in fluro green and grey' at the race track, or down at the pub having a few cold ones, or down the street at the shops - or you simply know them well.
Stripping it back to basics, respect is a two-way street and if you are acquainted with someone and are treated s equals, there's likely to be plenty of that R E S P E C T.
And there's a relationship of sorts.
Went to a local game on Good Friday, was refreshing seeing umpires and players converse in a non-intimidatory way during the game and see them mingle for a beer in the rooms after the game.
The odd player throws a tantrum, but it's quickly forgotten and we all move in.
The AFL has forgotten it's a two-way street and has now cultivated a culture of 1920s-like policemen or school principals lecturing, disciplining and admonishing a young kid.
Amazing to think in a world forever preaching inclusion and respect, little if any is being shown towards the real stars of the games, the players.
The AFL has elevated the AFL umpiring fraternity to immortals and untouchables, but as a consequence respect for both the men and women blowing the whistles and waving the flags and the AFL organisation, in general, has all but disappeared.
And there is simply no relationship between players and umpires anymore.
They've created a monster of their own doing.

Yeh, then other people are saying abuse from over the fence has never been worse. So there is a lot of conjecture over whether the AFL is even achieving their desired outcome, despite how much they pump themselves up

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

apparently the AFL has said that every single arms up should have been a free/50 on the weekend. means there is going to be about 100 of these incidents next round

Canna wait for the Scats game then...

 

[Muddiemoose]

I read some nonsense last night about some media person saying 'AFL coaches had noticed a lift in respect for umpires at the grassroots level as a result of the measures introduced by the AFL this year'.
What a lot of dribble.
There's likely always been way more respect between country and suburban players and umpires than at the top level.
Put simply, especially at the country level where I'm involved, umpires are not just officials, they are members of their community, who socialise and work in their community.
You're more likely to bump into your friendly 'man in fluro green and grey' at the race track, or down at the pub having a few cold ones, or down the street at the shops - or you simply know them well.
Stripping it back to basics, respect is a two-way street and if you are acquainted with someone and are treated s equals, there's likely to be plenty of that R E S P E C T.
And there's a relationship of sorts.
Went to a local game on Good Friday, was refreshing seeing umpires and players converse in a non-intimidatory way during the game and see them mingle for a beer in the rooms after the game.
The odd player throws a tantrum, but it's quickly forgotten and we all move in.
The AFL has forgotten it's a two-way street and has now cultivated a culture of 1920s-like policemen or school principals lecturing, disciplining and admonishing a young kid.
Amazing to think in a world forever preaching inclusion and respect, little if any is being shown towards the real stars of the games, the players.
The AFL has elevated the AFL umpiring fraternity to immortals and untouchables, but as a consequence respect for both the men and women blowing the whistles and waving the flags and the AFL organisation, in general, has all but disappeared.
And there is simply no relationship between players and umpires anymore.
They've created a monster of their own doing.

In my experience it’s not player abuse that turns umps away at local level, Most local umps have good relationships with clubs and players every now and again you get the outlier events but that’s life

The abuse that is pushing young umpires out is from the sidelines with Dance mum parents
Nothing to do with the players on field

 

[This Is Anfield]

In my experience it’s not player abuse that turns umps away at local level, Most local umps have good relationships with clubs and players every now and again you get the outlier events but that’s life

The abuse that is pushing young umpires out is from the sidelines with Dance mum parents
Nothing to do with the players on field

Was about to post the same, parental abuse at junior games has always been a blight!

 

[Not Important]

So they need to higher big muscular guys as umps?

They will think twice about questioning ump decisions with the umps standing over them!

loved what u did there.

 

[Not Important]

Was about to post the same, parental abuse at junior games has always been a blight!

it has & i blame the clubs for not bringing it 2 hand.