Roast Uncle Reggie's "Dump on Mark Harvey" Thread

[Lord Rod]

inb4lock

These type of threads never end well.

"It's all fun and games until someone loses a brain"

Funny stuff

 

[imadoka]

http://www.obtampons.ca/apology

Click the link type in mark harvey click submit turn up speakers wait 30 seconds for song to start and the mark harvey supporters will feel a lot better
Hope it works

 

[dominguez]

Personally I think we owe Harvey our gratitude for getting our list in the best shape its ever been in. I believe he was poorly treated by the club, and continues to be poorly treated by some supporters without any justification.

Some will say that all the positives that came from his tenure as senior coach were provided by other coaches/staffers, yet all the negatives are laid squarely at his feet. This is pure bullshit.

If Harvey rejuvenated the list what do you think Lloyd and Bond do for their salary?

It's like blaming the boot studder for the re-branding.

 

[E Shed]

A little known training technique Mark Harvey employed was the 'threaten with fire'. Instead of pushups or laps after a mistake, Mark Harvey would caution that he could set things aflame just by looking at them. Used once on Daniel Gilmore.

I lost my shite here. Still crying with laughter. fkin brilliant Clay.

 

[dominguez]

Funny shit Clay.



I don't subscribe to the theory that Harvey was responsible for bringing injured players back early. They are either passed as fit by the medicos or they aren't. There is no such thing as "yeah, he's ready, but don't play him straight away or he might get re-injured".

How do you know what was said?

Could have been
a)
Harvey - If Mundy plays this week what's the chance of him re-injuring his ankle?
Doc - Highly unlikely.
Harvey - Good, then he's in.

or
b)
Harvey - If Mundy plays this week what's the chance of him re-injuring his ankle?
Doc - 50/50
Harvey - Good enough for me, he's in.

c)
Somewhere in between those 2 answers.

 

[prattsta]

It's all mixed up in that hazy 'If he's fit enough to play in the WAFL, he may as well play in the AFL' area that Harvey mentioned in at least one press conference.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

If Harvey rejuvenated the list what do you think Lloyd and Bond do for their salary?

It's like blaming the boot studder for the re-branding.

The senior coach is either fully responsible or he's not, you can't pick bits to suit yourself.

The re-branding was an admin thing, it had nothing to do with football operations. Lets not even go there.

How do you know what was said?

Could have been
a)
Harvey - If Mundy plays this week what's the chance of him re-injuring his ankle?
Doc - Highly unlikely.
Harvey - Good, then he's in.

or
b)
Harvey - If Mundy plays this week what's the chance of him re-injuring his ankle?
Doc - 50/50
Harvey - Good enough for me, he's in.

c)
Somewhere in between those 2 answers.

Or none of the above.

Harvey - Is he fit to play?

Doc - Yes.

Harvey - Good enough for me, he's in.

Any discussion about re-injury is pie in the sky. May as well ask what the chances are of him being hit by lightning on the field.

 

[Mad props Freo]

I personally think it had nothing do with injuries. I think he got sacked because he was teaching the kids the wrong things.....

 

[yakka man]

Why are people taking part in a thread which is micromanaged by Reg. He is clearly pro Harvey while the majority of us are realists.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Why are people taking part in a thread which is micromanaged by Reg. He is clearly pro Harvey while the majority of us are realists.

Nobody is dragging people in here ym. Exercise your personal choice.

 

[Arcassius]

I'm only here because I clicked on a link by accident. I thought I'd won an Ipad

 

[dominguez]

The senior coach is either fully responsible or he's not, you can't pick bits to suit yourself.

The senior coach is responsible for getting the most from the players on the list, but do you genuinely think it was his call to pick Fyfe, Barlow, Broughton, Silvagni, etc?

There are very few players that he would have had an impact on recruiting other than Mark Johnson, Dean Solomon and Kepler Bradley. He did make the call to keep on Peter Bell and Shauny Mac when they were finished though.

Or none of the above.

Harvey - Is he fit to play?

Doc - Yes.

Harvey - Good enough for me, he's in.

Any discussion about re-injury is pie in the sky. May as well ask what the chances are of him being hit by lightning on the field.

Again, how do you know?

Maybe it went something like this -
Harvey - Is Mundy right.
Doc - I wouldn't risk him.
Harvey - Dave, are ya fit to play ten minutes of footy?
Mundy - Ten minutes? Sure
Harvey - In that case you can f***ing play an hour, harden up Princess.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

The senior coach is responsible for getting the most from the players on the list, but do you genuinely think it was his call to pick Fyfe, Barlow, Broughton, Silvagni, etc?.

If you're going to claim it was his call on the medical situation, you have to accept that it was his call on all other matters. If you've ever held a position of ultimate responsibility, this shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp.

Again, how do you know?

Maybe it went something like this -
Harvey - Is Mundy right.
Doc - I wouldn't risk him.
Harvey - Dave, are ya fit to play ten minutes of footy?
Mundy - Ten minutes? Sure
Harvey - In that case you can f***ing play an hour, harden up Princess.

Yeah, sounds totally realistic.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Clay trying to troll....... so so sad.

You do it better when you're acting natural Clay.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

I'm only here because I clicked on a link by accident. I thought I'd won an Ipad

Its in the mail.

Yours will be purple, of course, and will be a one-eye pad.

 

[dominguez]

If you're going to claim it was his call on the medical situation, you have to accept that it was his call on all other matters. If you've ever held a position of ultimate responsibility, this shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp.

I'm not claiming that it was his call on the medical situation, just that the senior coach makes the final call on the match day 22 and the steps taken at seasons end by the club paint Harvey in a poor light.

Schwab held a position of ultimate responsibility, hopefully the club's never in the position where one person does every job ever again and we have a Coach, CEO, Footy Manager and Chairman who are all among the best in the comp from 2012 forward.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

If Harvey rejuvenated the list what do you think Lloyd and Bond do for their salary?

It's like blaming the boot studder for the re-branding.

Whilst that is true... harvey still had to have the balls to give these guys a game. In one year alone he blooded 14 players as well as putting other players on the scrapheap. he may not have done the research and recruitment, but he did have a big part in the rejuvination

 

[peppy la pew]

Clay trying to troll....... so so sad.

You do it better when you're acting natural Clay.

Shuudup grumpy, he is enjoying himself.

Although I'm not sure who has logged in as Clay.

Harvey - Is Mundy fit to play

Medic - No, we're running him in the wafl

Harvey - I need him for this rd 22 blockbuster

 

[Arcassius]

Its in the mail.

Yours will be purple, of course, and will be a one-eye pad.

Sweet As long as it has the chevrons on it - that's all I want. I think the one you posted there is the Tambling limited edition

 

[JunglistPosse]

Hmmm reading the title..one has images of two girls and a cup

 

[dominguez]

Whilst that is true... harvey still had to have the balls to give these guys a game. In one year alone he blooded 14 players as well as putting other players on the scrapheap. he may not have done the research and recruitment, but he did have a big part in the rejuvination

But what was his other option? Keep playing Bell, Carr, Solomon, Hasleby, Black, Mark Johnson, Headland, etc until they were 35? There was that many players near the end on the list in 2008 that playing kids was the only option in 2009.

 

[Pusswah]

Harvey's time was up. He was a very average coach. The only surprising thing about it was that the club had the guts to pull the trigger.

Good shit Clay.

 

[peppy la pew]

Its in the mail.

Yours will be purple, of course, and will be a one-eye pad.

One eyed, purple ................

You saucy minx Reg

 

[Reginald Perrin]

I'm not claiming that it was his call on the medical situation, just that the senior coach makes the final call on the match day 22 and the steps taken at seasons end by the club paint Harvey in a poor light.

Schwab held a position of ultimate responsibility, hopefully the club's never in the position where one person does every job ever again and we have a Coach, CEO, Footy Manager and Chairman who are all among the best in the comp from 2012 forward.

The Schwab situation should never have happened. The senior coach is ultimately responsible for football operations and the CEO is ultimately responsible for administrative operations. The two should never cross over. The board is ultimately responsible for combined operations.

I assume by "the steps taken at seasons end by the club" that "paint Harvey in a poor light", you are referring to his sacking. Yet if Ross Lyon wasn't available, Harvey would have been retained as senior coach, so where does that leave your "poor light".

The President has stated consistently that if Lyon wasn't avilable, Harvey would still be senior coach, but people ignore this statement and claim all sorts of reasons behind his sacking of which there is no proof. Those same people now consider that Lyon has a four year contract so he should be given that time to prove his worth, when Harvey wasn't afforded the same consideration. Its these types of inconsistencies that make me prickle.

That's the whole point of this thread. It would be far better if everybody just said "So long Harves, and thanks for all the fish" and left it at that. What we get, though, is continual bashing of a man who, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, gave great service to our club.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

So valiant pepe.