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Odegaard hits the post. A minute later so does Isak, but its rebounded in.

That’s the tie done I feel. 3-0.
 

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And just what we needed with no January additions and an already short forward group: Martinelli tearing a hamstring.

Nwaneri on.
 
Please tell me this is just a bad attempt at a joke? 😔

I wouldnt joke about such a thing mate. Felt his hamstring immediately, lay flat on the ground needing assistance to come off. Looked in lots of pain. The sub was made straight away.
 
**** me, typical stubborn Arteta. You just knew something like this was going to happen.

No signings.

Play all the starters in a tie we were never going to win.

Big injury to a key player.

Just garbage management.
 
Very rare lapse from Saliba. So lucky not to be punished for that. Gordon should’ve buried that.

And now we lose composure again. That was a gift. 2-0.

And 4-0 on aggregate.
 
This feels like a pointless game to start a full strength team. Now at 0-1 it was definitely a pointless game to do so
And just what we needed with no January additions and an already short forward group: Martinelli tearing a hamstring.

Nwaneri on.
The prosecution rests your honour
 

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The prosecution rests your honour

I get the frustration. It’s very understandable from the outside looking in.

However it doesn’t always work that way. Inside the group, they would’ve wanted to play. And atone for the first leg. Whatever slim chance Arsenal had of reversing this tie was predicated on our best players starting. It’s a gamble yes, that they felt was worth it.

It’s backfired obviously. However off the back of the energy and momentum from the City thumping, they would’ve wanted to play this one.

And now gotta protect the players. Odegaard and Trossard off. I’d get Kai off asap too.
 
Point blank header missed. MLS should’ve nailed that. That sums up the tie really. Arsenal missed chances, Newcastle didn’t.
 
Should have played the under 19s for the Careless Cup.

**** me, typical stubborn Arteta. You just knew something like this was going to happen.

No signings.

Play all the starters in a tie we were never going to win.

Big injury to a key player.

Just garbage management.

I don't understand this thought process?

Arteta is stubborn for making no signings?

Which players (that are worth mentioning) moved in this window that would have been realistic options for Arsenal to sign AND instantly improve the starting 11 for the rest of the season and beyond?

  • Mathys Tel on loan? Possibly, although as seen last night finishing is our issue....Tel definitely isn't the answer to that if you've seen him play. Also if the rumours are true (reported by multiple sources) the loan is costing Tottenham at least €15M-20M for 5 months without any option to buy if he turns out amazing. Yuck.

  • Marcus Rashford on loan? Possibly, I said previously its the option I would have really really have pushed to consider, but the vast majority of Arsenal fans weren't interested. Take him out of his Manchester comfort bubble, give him 6 months under Arteta and a strong, professional environment and I think he'll do good things. Villa might have a steal there with a €40m buy option.

  • Santiago Gimenez? Possibly, A player I like and has potential, age 23 so good age profile and has been great for Feyenoord, 65 goals in 105 games. Problem is, Eredivisie players can be so hit and miss. For every Luis Suarez you get Graziano Pelle's, Vicent Janssen's and Luuk De Jong's. He's gone to AC Milan for €30m and for that price I would have been keen, but, what if it's a choice between Gimenez now....or Sesko in the summer? Would you still make that deal?

  • Omar Marmoush? Possiby, €80m on a 25 year old player with only 184 top level appearances (Bundesliga + UEFA) and 46 goals? People want to rip on Kai Havertz but guess what, same age: 374 top level games and 107 goals, and that's playing as both a mid/forward. Marmoush represents a gamble, an expensive gamble that clubs like City can afford to take and get wrong, Arsenal can't at that price point.

  • Khvicha Kvaratskhelia? Yeah would have loved to sign him. €300k base pay a week in wages would make him arsenal's highest earner alongside a €70m transfer fee, that's a big call to make. We would struggle to pull a player over PSG.

  • Donyell Malen? Nah, didn't cut it as a youth player with us and hasn't shown anything that would take our squad to the next level.
and i don't care to mention the rest.

Unfortunately, Arsenal don't have endless money to make high cost gamble signing like the oil clubs.

I have absolutely no doubt that Arteta and the club wanted to make a signing this window, but given the costs involved and other circumstances (money laundering Saudi transfer deals) there wasn't too many realistic options.
 
Shoei for context I believe the Arteta stubbornness comment was more in relation to the line up chosen this morning than lack of transfer action.

Which you’ve covered anyway. I have never heard Arteta (and the likes of Rice etc) speak so openly about the need for another player in the group. They absolutely wanted and needed support; and for a host of reasons it didn’t happen. How much that goes to cost us, time will tell.

If we’re chasing a goal deep into the second leg of a champions league tie, (such as Bayern last season) but come up short again, understandably it’s going to all come back down again to this window and last summer.
 
Should have played the under 19s for the Careless Cup.



I don't understand this thought process?

Arteta is stubborn for making no signings?

Which players (that are worth mentioning) moved in this window that would have been realistic options for Arsenal to sign AND instantly improve the starting 11 for the rest of the season and beyond?

  • Mathys Tel on loan? Possibly, although as seen last night finishing is our issue....Tel definitely isn't the answer to that if you've seen him play. Also if the rumours are true (reported by multiple sources) the loan is costing Tottenham at least €15M-20M for 5 months without any option to buy if he turns out amazing. Yuck.

  • Marcus Rashford on loan? Possibly, I said previously its the option I would have really really have pushed to consider, but the vast majority of Arsenal fans weren't interested. Take him out of his Manchester comfort bubble, give him 6 months under Arteta and a strong, professional environment and I think he'll do good things. Villa might have a steal there with a €40m buy option.

  • Santiago Gimenez? Possibly, A player I like and has potential, age 23 so good age profile and has been great for Feyenoord, 65 goals in 105 games. Problem is, Eredivisie players can be so hit and miss. For every Luis Suarez you get Graziano Pelle's, Vicent Janssen's and Luuk De Jong's. He's gone to AC Milan for €30m and for that price I would have been keen, but, what if it's a choice between Gimenez now....or Sesko in the summer? Would you still make that deal?

  • Omar Marmoush? Possiby, €80m on a 25 year old player with only 184 top level appearances (Bundesliga + UEFA) and 46 goals? People want to rip on Kai Havertz but guess what, same age: 374 top level games and 107 goals, and that's playing as both a mid/forward. Marmoush represents a gamble, an expensive gamble that clubs like City can afford to take and get wrong, Arsenal can't at that price point.

  • Khvicha Kvaratskhelia? Yeah would have loved to sign him. €300k base pay a week in wages would make him arsenal's highest earner alongside a €70m transfer fee, that's a big call to make. We would struggle to pull a player over PSG.

  • Donyell Malen? Nah, didn't cut it as a youth player with us and hasn't shown anything that would take our squad to the next level.
and i don't care to mention the rest.

Unfortunately, Arsenal don't have endless money to make high cost gamble signing like the oil clubs.

I have absolutely no doubt that Arteta and the club wanted to make a signing this window, but given the costs involved and other circumstances (money laundering Saudi transfer deals) there wasn't too many realistic options.
The lack of signings was a failure, and the blame lies with Ayo.

Maybe some could be attributed to Arteta? As he looks for the 'perfect' fit. But I can't imagine he'd have been happy with how the window has panned out, so I don't blame him for that at all. He'd know more than anyone that we needed to make some signings, loan or otherwise.

The stubbornness comment was made in relation to playing all the starters. At the least everyone possible should have been pulled at HT.
 

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