Up the Arse! Goons Thread

[glenferry23]

No shit. Im saying that Ba was always a last day transfer, Mourinho was never going to let him go with a week or two left in the transfer window when Torres or Eto could have got injured and when theres plenty of time left for us to further improve our team. By the way Eto moved to Chelsea on the 29th of august, with 4 days left in the transfer window.

Disagree. By that logic, no team would sell a player to another club until the last day to avoid the risk of them further strengthening in the remaining duration of the window.

Many other clubs get their business done earlier in the window. They train together, they plan together, they integrate together. We don't.

Puzzling.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Disagree. By that logic, no team would sell a player to another club until the last day to avoid the risk of them further strengthening in the remaining duration of the window.

Many other clubs get their business done earlier in the window. They train together, they plan together, they integrate together. We don't.

Puzzling.

Up until the last four days of the transfer window Chelsea had two strikers. Do you think Chelsea would sell Ba with Torres the only striker at the club?

In any case you make out Ba to be world class. When really he's a slight upgrade on Bendtner.

 

[glenferry23]

Up until the last four days of the transfer window Chelsea had two strikers. Do you think Chelsea would sell Ba with Torres the only striker at the club?

In any case you make out Ba to be world class. When really he's a slight upgrade on Bendtner.

World class? Where the hell did I say that? I used Ba as an example of a desperation, last minute move. He is much better than Bentdner though Tom, you really do ridiculously overrate Arsenal players. Podolksi, Walcott as recent examples.

And Chelsea isn't the only club that sells players. We could've made numerous moves for other options across Europe. But didn't. And that's my point.

We failed to address a weakness in the time given, instead opting for injured/free players (Sanogo) and sub standard depth (Bendtner who we have been trying to ship off permanently for a couple of seasons).

 

[elhadjihenry]

Ozil will have more of an effect on the club long term, Higuain would have made us a more complete team this season.

If we had have somehow got both I think we would have this thing wrapped up already

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

World class? Where the hell did I say that? I used Ba as an example of a desperation, last minute move. He is much better than Bentdner though Tom, you really do ridiculously overrate Arsenal players. Podolksi, Walcott as recent examples.

And Chelsea isn't the only club that sells players. We could've made numerous moves for other options across Europe. But didn't. And that's my point.

We failed to address a weakness in the time given, instead opting for injured/free players (Sanogo) and sub standard depth (Bendtner who we have been trying to ship off permanently for a couple of seasons).

I didn't overrate Podolski I simply didn't rate Bale anywhere near as highly as others, which has since changed and changed once Bale moved from the left to play on the right/middle, however every ****ing idiot on here likes to remind me of it. Who'd have thought peoples opinions change? Hell I don't even rate Podolski all that highly and could care less if he left as he can be upgraded on (Draxler).

Walcott a very good player and is one of the top big game players in the league. Sadly because he cant do step overs no one rates him as proven by the fact people had Andros ****ing Townsend in the England team over Walcott. I'll be the first to admit that Walcott is limited but so is Pedro yet both are very good at doing what they are required to do and are very productive, Walcott more so then Pedro. He'd walk into every team in the country.

Bendtner before his ACL injury was a very good player for a midtable side only his attitude would get in the road. Ba is a very good player for a midtable club and has flopped at Chelsea, so really there is very little between the two especially in terms of ability.

 

[Cruyff14]

If you could care less it means you care a lot.

 

[glenferry23]

I didn't overrate Podolski I simply didn't rate Bale anywhere near as highly as others, which has since changed and changed once Bale moved from the left to play on the right/middle, however every ******* idiot on here likes to remind me of it. Who'd have thought peoples opinions change? Hell I don't even rate Podolski all that highly and could care less if he left as he can be upgraded on (Draxler).

Walcott a very good player and is one of the top big game players in the league. Sadly because he cant do step overs no one rates him as proven by the fact people had Andros ******* Townsend in the England team over Walcott. I'll be the first to admit that Walcott is limited but so is Pedro yet both are very good at doing what they are required to do and are very productive, Walcott more so then Pedro. He'd walk into every team in the country.

Bendtner before his ACL injury was a very good player for a midtable side only his attitude would get in the road. Ba is a very good player for a midtable club and has flopped at Chelsea, so really there is very little between the two especially in terms of ability.

Ba is still much better than Bentdner though. Walcott I agree is a very good footballer but laughable to suggest he's top 10 in the league. Anyway, you ignored the rest of my comments, as your contention for some reason implied that Chelsea was the only club available to buy from. Which I pointed out is incorrect.

Whichever way you want to dice it up, defend it or deny it, the fact is it was a failure not to sign a striker in both windows. Simple as that.

 

[windyhill]

Always a big game v utd, unfortunately we crumble at the very sight of them. Have done for years. Please respond Arsenal,drive the final nail into these pricks and make up for last Saturdays complete mess.

 

[glenferry23]

Always a big game v utd, unfortunately we crumble at the very sight of them. Have done for years. Please respond Arsenal,drive the final nail into these pricks and make up for last Saturdays complete mess.

They've had us mentally for a little while now. Guys like Rooney, and Fletcher as well, had a big verbal and psychical presence. Damn frustrating how easily they intimidated us and did as they wished. Now we've also got Judas in there to contend with. If ever there was a time to smash those filthy pricks, its now.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

They've had us mentally for a little while now. Guys like Rooney, and Fletcher as well, had a big verbal and psychical presence. Damn frustrating how easily they intimidated us and did as they wished. Now we've also got Judas in there to contend with. If ever there was a time to smash those filthy pricks, its now.

Yep, I almost wake up expecting to see Van Persie 1- Arsenal 0 (again).

Btw, on an earlier topic, how well is Higuian going at Napoli? I'm not keeping up. I was always into him at Arsenal but my number one is Benzema. I think he'd flourish under Wenger.

 

[Latro]

Higuain has scored 17 and assisted 9. But it is only Series A.

 

[Northalives]

The top class sides identify who they want and go out and get them. Now of course, some of the players you want may be really happy where they are thank you very much, but with the networks that abound these days, one would have to be pretty naive to think that managers/clubs don't know who they can tempt and who they couldn't.

Our bloke, Mr. Wenger, he's like Arthur Daley; always looking for the bargain, always trying to save a couple of shillings. That's real good if you are at a middle-of-the-road club whose finances are very tight but this is The Arsenal!! Look at what you need, find the best players to do the job and get them.

This stealth shit has kept us back for years.

 

[ADL9798]

Walcott a very good player and is one of the top big game players in the league. Sadly because he cant do step overs no one rates him as proven by the fact people had Andros ******* Townsend in the England team over Walcott. I'll be the first to admit that Walcott is limited but so is Pedro yet both are very good at doing what they are required to do and are very productive, Walcott more so then Pedro. He'd walk into every team in the country.

He cops a lot of flack from opposition supporters but after Hazard he's the most lethal winger in the league in my opinion. The Pedro comparison is a good call, sure there are wingers with better touch & vision, but what separates those 2 from the rest of the pack is that they are such natural finishers and at the end of the day the ability to score 15-20 goals a season is a pretty rare asset to have as a wide player. Anyone who ever thought or thinks that Townsend is a better player needs their head checked!

Also popped in to say how impressed I was with Wilshere on Saturday. When the game was lost and his team mates dropped their heads he was the only Arsenal player trying to make things happen, driving forward with the ball and orchestrating 1-2's. Also love the fact that he gets stuck in, people might call him a twat for it but he honestly reminds me of a young Gerrard in that respect. Any talk of him being made captain in the near future?

 

[bok_party]

I didn't watch the game, only the highlights but can someone tell me why Gibbs continues to start on the bench behind Monreal? Surely Wenger would be intelligent enough to realise Gibbs' pace would have proved crucial to nullifying the pace of Suarez/sterling/coutinho/sturridge?

Secondly, as much as I agree we need another striker, was Giroud really the problem on the weekend? If the midfield can't hit a 5 yard pass or even supply Giroud the ball, is that the issue?

Thirdly, I've been trying to buy an away kit for fricking 8 months but they continually are sold out everywhere online. Does anyone know of a place I can get my grubby hands on one?

 

[glenferry23]

Is Gibbs injured at the moment? Keep reading conflicting reports about him. Can't understand why Nacho would keep starting ahead of him otherwise.

Also, have you tried kitbag? Probably cheaper than the official site anyway.

 

[elhadjihenry]

Nothing wrong with Gibbs, has come off the bench a few times, maybe Wenger trying to save him for the coming weeks?

He is a class above Monreal both defensively and going forward imo, if we can get him and Poldi on at the same time our left hand side will finally become dangerous

 

[Kipz]

I feel sick every time I see Monreal starting and Gibbs sub. Gibbs needed to play again Liverpool.

 

[charcoalchicken]

We have a chance to go back on top if we beat Utd. we should turn it around hopefully

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Hoping we can elimiate Saturday from our psyche and pummel Man Utd. Everyone has bad days. Lets bounce back and get back on top - then put Liverpool back in their box in the Cup.

Funnily enough - had you said to me we would lose one of our two games v Liverpool i would have picked the league as I think Cup is our most realistic trophy this season. Even more so that we could still be on top tomorrow morning.

Cmon you gunners. show some balls

 

[NTRabbit]

Gibbs supposedly had a calf strain before the Liverpool game, or so said Ian Stone at the time

 

[glenferry23]

Hoping we can elimiate Saturday from our psyche and pummel Man Utd. Everyone has bad days. Lets bounce back and get back on top - then put Liverpool back in their box in the Cup.

Funnily enough - had you said to me we would lose one of our two games v Liverpool i would have picked the league as I think Cup is our most realistic trophy this season. Even more so that we could still be on top tomorrow morning.

Cmon you gunners. show some balls

Fair point. Beat the filth tomorrow and go back top, as well as overcoming Liverpool this weekend to advance in the Cup and you'd still say overall its been a decent week, despite the pummeling we received a few days ago.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Fair point. Beat the filth tomorrow and go back top, as well as overcoming Liverpool this weekend to advance in the Cup and you'd still say overall its been a decent week, despite the pummeling we received a few days ago.

thats the theory behind it mate. But imagine the alternatives being a loss or draw tomorrow against a very bad Man U (and prob ending title hopes) and then a loss or draw against liverpool (meaning a replay or elimination) then our season could be all over by this weekend - not to mention confidence shot.

big game tomorrow for confidence more than anything else. I will take a nervy 1 nil win if it means we get our mojo back.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

want to see us lineup as follows:

----------szez---------
sag---per--kos---gib
------arteta---jw-----
Ozil-----rosicky---ox
---------Giroud-------

Rosicky through the middle giving ozil a bit more space in wider positions.

 

[Cruyff14]

want to see us lineup as follows:

----------szez---------
sag---per--kos---gib
------arteta---jw-----
Ozil-----rosicky---ox
---------Giroud-------

Rosicky through the middle giving ozil a bit more space in wider positions.

Mesut in the middle, Jack on the right, Rosicky next to Arteta.

 

[glenferry23]

Mesut in the middle, Jack on the right, Rosicky next to Arteta.

That squeezes out Santi. But I do agree, Rosicky needs to play and CM is probably the best place to accommodate him.

Could do with Ox's pace too. As has been said many times, our lack of pace was massively exposed against Liverpool.

I wonder at what point does Ozil's automatic starting spot comes into question. Needs a big game soon. The 'flop' headlines this morning were ridiculous though, such is the fickle nature of the tabloids.