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Ibra wouldn't fit in with our culture that I agree with, he does not strive for 4th place Zlatan.
I absolutely agree.

But maybe that's the point. When we crashed out against Watford, we were all here commenting how mentally weak much of the squad is. And we were right. Zlatan may be an ass, but he is hard as nails, and never accepts anything other than winning. Maybe a year or two of having that around is worth any amount of money, so that maybe the rest of the squad can learn from it. Plus he's fun as hell to watch.

I don't honestly believe it'll ever actually happen. But I honestly believe we should be going as hard as we can at him, irrelevant of cost or age.
 

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We missed our chance with Higuain a few years ago, we'd baulk at his price tag now so its very unlikely to happen.

The world class strikers are now beyond our reach, but there are other forwards who most definitely improve our current options of Welbeck, Giroud, Walcott.

Giroud should be retained as a back up, with one of Walcott and Welbeck to be sold. But on the ridiculous wages of Walcott's, he'll be very difficult to move.
Not that it means much, but pretty much the first thing I do any time I start a new career on FIFA is sell off Walcott. Usually funds a nice replacement or two.
 
So Everton away tonight, anything other than a Win and that's a line through our remaining very slim title chances.

4th (3rd place even) isn't secure so still a lot to play for.
 
Anyway, onto tonight. The magnitude of the game speaks for itself. Line up will be interesting, whether Wenger opts for Welbeck or Giroud up front.

If we're going by form, then Iwobi, Campbell etc deserve to start. But that won't happen as Sanchez won't be dropped. I'd prefer Campbell on the other flank but we know it will probably be Walcott.

Elneny and Coq should be in the middle. And who partners Koscielny is also up for debate - neither Mertesacker or Gabriel have been that impressive of late.
 
So Everton away tonight, anything other than a Win and that's a line through our remaining very slim title chances.

4th (3rd place even) isn't secure so still a lot to play for.

Not overly fussed about that to be honest its not like we are in the CL to actually compete for it anyways. ( plus i don't think that Ozil will stay for 4th place / rd 16 anyways so that argument of we need CL football does not matter to much)
 
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Not overly fussed about that to be honest its not like we are in the CL to actually compete for it anyways. ( plus i don't think that Ozil will stay for 4th place / rd 16 anyways so that argument of we need CL football does not matter to much)

Not qualifying for the Champions League will directly affect the club financially and our ability to sign big name players. We could MAYBE get away with it for one season but it makes life that much more difficult. Look at Liverpool as a prime comparison.

4th place is the minimum requirement for Wenger to keep his job because that cuts straight into Silent Stan's investment in the club.
 
Not qualifying for the Champions League will directly affect the club financially and our ability to sign big name players. We could MAYBE get away with it for one season but it makes life that much more difficult. Look at Liverpool as a prime comparison.

4th place is the minimum requirement for Wenger to keep his job because that cuts straight into Silent Stan's investment in the club.

Yeah I understand 4th place is important for Stan and the Board, just don't think its that big of a deal for us fans. As for signing big name players we have only EVER made 2 signings above 16 million Pounds so its not like it happens that often anyways.
 
Yeah I understand 4th place is important for Stan and the Board, just don't think its that big of a deal for us fans. As for signing big name players we have only EVER made 2 signings above 16 million Pounds so its not like it happens that often anyways.

Funnily, this is true.

The fans believe we need UCL football but a more accurate summation is that Wenger and the board need it. We hardly ever put ourselves in a position to sign players who absolutely require/desire UCL football, so it really won't change a hell of a lot regarding our transfers because we have a manager and board who are seemingly against big transfers a majority of the time anyway.

For the club to move forward it's arguably better we miss the UCL.
 

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Yeah I understand 4th place is important for Stan and the Board, just don't think its that big of a deal for us fans. As for signing big name players we have only EVER made 2 signings above 16 million Pounds so its not like it happens that often anyways.

We've signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last few windows as well as made a 40m bid for Suarez and numerous 20m-30m bids for other players.

You think its hard to sign big name players now wait and see what happens if we don't make the Champions League.
 
We've signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last few windows as well as made a 40m bid for Suarez and numerous 20m-30m bids for other players.

You think its hard to sign big name players now wait and see what happens if we don't make the Champions League.

Surely we would be able to make 1 outfield signing in the Summer ? That would better the previous summer.
 
We've signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last few windows as well as made a 40m bid for Suarez and numerous 20m-30m bids for other players.

You think its hard to sign big name players now wait and see what happens if we don't make the Champions League.

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't when it comes to qualifying. Qualifying will lead to more mediocrity and frustration, while not qualifying will hinder us in the short run but could be a catalyst for long term change and improvement.

Regardless, we're ****** either way until we find a new manager.
 
Surely we would be able to make 1 outfield signing in the Summer ? That would better the previous summer.

We'll make a few signings in the summer. We are going to lose 5-6 players that will need replacing.
 
We've signed Ozil and Sanchez in the last few windows as well as made a 40m bid for Suarez and numerous 20m-30m bids for other players.

You think its hard to sign big name players now wait and see what happens if we don't make the Champions League.
Exactly, the reason we are able to qualify for the UCL is because of the players we can sign because of being in it. No UCL = no Sanchez, Ozil, Cech.

Take away UCL qualification and we've lost any hope of signing the "world class striker" that the fans are pining for.
 
Exactly, the reason we are able to qualify for the UCL is because of the players we can sign because of being in it. No UCL = no Sanchez, Ozil, Cech.

Take away UCL qualification and we lost any hope of signing the "world class striker" that the fans are pining for.
What if you already have no hope of that happening.
 

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Take away UCL qualification and we lost any hope of signing the "world class striker" that the fans are pining for.

To be fair there isn't much hope of that anyway. We have Walcott taking up space and 120k/week of wages.

Factor in that we haven't signed a fantastic striker for >10 years (despite UCL football each year, and the stadium-imposed financial restrictions gone many years ago too), and it's not farfetched to suggest that Wenger will retire with RvP seen as the last great striker he ever purchased and/or developed.
 
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We're damned if we do and damned if we don't when it comes to qualifying. Qualifying will lead to more mediocrity and frustration, while not qualifying will hinder us in the short run but could be a catalyst for long term change and improvement.

Regardless, we're ****** either way until we find a new manager.

This 100%
 
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