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This article talks about Russian willingness to negotiate a peace.


The most interesting part is the Russian understanding and the US position led by Steve Witless. None of the claims have been officially documented. The phrase 'Sold out' is what coms to mind when reading it.

Official Russian commentary suggests that a key agreement concerns the resolution of the territorial dispute between Russia and Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin evidently came away from Anchorage believing that President Donald Trump had given assurances that he would compel Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to cede all of the Donbas to Russia, including the roughly 15 percent of the Donetsk province that Russia has not conquered.

That view has a certain ring of plausibility. Last spring, US special envoy Steve Witkoff, who has handled negotiations with the Kremlin since the beginning of the Trump administration, insisted that the territorial issue was key to the resolution of the conflict, taking precedence over the issue of Ukraine’s security guarantees and sovereignty, which most other observers thought were at least as, if not more, important.

Witkoff apparently brought a formula for settling the issue to his meeting with Putin last August that the Russian president’s foreign policy adviser dubbed “completely acceptable.” Afterward, when briefing Ukrainians and allies, Wittkoff was fuzzy about the details of what he had agreed to with Putin.

All that was clear was that Ukraine would withdraw entirely from the Donbas in exchange for territorial compensation elsewhere, including, perhaps, Putin’s abandonment of claims to the territory in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia provinces that Russia had formally annexed but did not yet control. Whatever the understanding, the Kremlin was pleased, and the two sides agreed to hold a summit meeting in short order so that they could hammer these understandings into agreements between the two presidents. The Anchorage summit is still shrouded in mystery. It was abruptly cut short after three hours of discussion between the two presidents and a small group of advisers. At a brief joint news conference, Putin and Trump said they had reached some agreements but did not elaborate further. Trump also stated, “There’s no deal until there’s a deal.” They did not issue a joint communique. That said, the Russians insist that the understandings reached at the summit were based on proposals made by Trump, and they believe that Trump pledged to compel the Ukrainians to accept them.
...given assurances that he would compel Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to cede all of the Donbas to Russia...
Sounds familiar.

...gave assurances to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in February 1990 that NATO would not expand "one inch to the east" if Germany remained in NATO after reunification.

These, if both are true, were both informal political commitments. Neither assurance was part of a signed document.
 

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Yeah - they are clearly targeting poor black males from Africa, I have a few friends there and they are offering big money (compared to local wages) for “work” in Russia

Who are the "recruitment" agents? Wagner standover men?
 
"Just like the Nuremberg tribunal 80 years ago, this Special Tribunal in the Hague will restore justice from the ruins of war," Sybiha said, referencing the trials of some surviving senior Nazis after World War II.

"The road to justice for Ukraine is long and far from easy, but this does not stop us from doing everything in our power to help achieve this,"

The tribunal is "not an abstract idea," he wrote. "Yesterday, a Russian strike on Kyiv killed 24 people, including 3 children. Their relatives are watching. We have no moral right to fail. They deserve justice. Today's agreement, approved by 37 states on three continents, makes justice inevitable."
 
A video montage for our resident vatniks to digest



Notice that Ukraine does everyyhing possible to avoid civilian casualties in its kinetic long range sanctions. Despite Russia having subject Ukrainians to ethnic cleansing, murder, genocide of millions, starvation and violation of its sovereignty for the best part of over 150 years now.

The day Russian Nazis are ousted for good from Ukraine is a good chance of being the biggest celebration of all time.
 
Done deal



This goes along deals done with UK & Germany plus bilateral defense deals agreed with Gulf states to defend against Iranian terrorism.

Those claiming it's the US suppoprting Ukraine must be feeling embarrassed to the maximum extent possible right now.
 
Ukraine launched drone attacks on Moscow airfields and semiconductor factories, possibly an oil refinery or storage?.

Multiple citizen videos of their best air defence systems taking out as much of the city as they could hit, sometimes bringing drones down into shops, sometimes the air defence missiles themselves turning around and attacking their masters.

Residential Building, Krasnogorsk, Moscow Region [ASTRA TG]
Sheremetyovo Airport, Moscow [ASTRA TG]
"Elma" Technopark, Zelenograd, Moscow [ASTRA TG]
Filling Station, Solnechnogorsk, Moscow [ASTRA TG]
High rise building, Khimki, Moscow [ASTRA TG]
Also areas of Lobyna & Naro-Fominsk (just text naming of locations) [ASTRA TG]
Potentiall targets may have included Kapotnya Oil Refinery as well though this is an RF claim & no strikes are noted there [ASTRA TG]

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In one week since Ukraine declared a ceasefire:



3100 drones, 1300 bombs & 74 cruise missiles. It's actually insane.

The people of Ukraine are lucky that their leadership does everything possible to prevent a massacre.

Unlike Vladolf Putler.
 
Image shows some of Ukraine interceptor drones. For a class of weapon tha didn't exsist a few years ago they have certainly proliferated in types of desigh and numbers.
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This article below is an interview with a lead drone developer. He also demonstrates significant diplomatic skills, because Trump refusing Ukraine's help with drone defence was as dumb as it was fatal.
Q: In March, President Donald Trump said: ‘We don’t need their help in drone defense. We know more about drones than anybody. We have the best drones in the world, actually.’ What do you think about that?
A: I cannot comment.
 
Image shows some of Ukraine interceptor drones. For a class of weapon tha didn't exsist a few years ago they have certainly proliferated in types of desigh and numbers.
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This article below is an interview with a lead drone developer. He also demonstrates significant diplomatic skills, because Trump refusing Ukraine's help with drone defence was as dumb as it was fatal.
Q: In March, President Donald Trump said: ‘We don’t need their help in drone defense. We know more about drones than anybody. We have the best drones in the world, actually.’ What do you think about that?
A: I cannot comment.
When Ukraine didn’t have enough air defense missiles, we invented interceptors (drones). When we had a lack of 155mm ammunition, we invented FPV drones. When we had a lack of helicopters, we invented drone bombers. We had a lack of naval fleet, so we invented naval drones.
 
When Ukraine didn’t have enough air defense missiles, we invented interceptors (drones). When we had a lack of 155mm ammunition, we invented FPV drones. When we had a lack of helicopters, we invented drone bombers. We had a lack of naval fleet, so we invented naval drones.
It's a reminder - Technology changes the rules. Not just warfare, everything!
 
What utterly despicable fascist scum



The irony of you posting this, while sticking up for Israel over on the Crime page, with 1,500+ posts and zero even discussing the fact that Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal and the mountain of documented crimes committed by the IDF which are far worse than this.

Your double standard is ridiculous and completely undermines any point you're trying to make.
 

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The irony of you posting this, while sticking up for Israel over on the Crime page, with 1,500+ posts and zero even discussing the fact that Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal and the mountain of documented crimes committed by the IDF which are far worse than this.

Your double standard is ridiculous and completely undermines any point you're trying to make.
A) This is the Ukranian invasion thread.


B) You are well known for being a supporter of Iranian war crimes / crimes against humanity / massacres of their own people.

So kindly piss off. Do this again and you will be reported.
 
Interview with a Russian drone operator who defected




Some interesting stuff. Drone operators were basically treated the best out of all military units. Operated far away from enemy lines.

His complaints about a targeted strike on children at an apartment building saw him sent to the front line at which stage he defected.
 

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