Warne calls S.Waugh "Most selfish" cricketer he's played with

[Snell1234]

Warne's wealth has nothing to do with it, he's the greatest cricketer I've ever seen, and according to G. Haigh, a very sociable sort of bloke, but he's can be a bit of a twit at times. This is one of them.

Running the risk of repeating myself, can you explain why this is one of those examples? Is he not allowed to dislike someone? We also need to remember that we were only shown edits of a conversation and he may well have expanded upon what he said only for channel 10 to show certain parts to illicit the reaction that has occurred.

What people have latched onto is that they are linking the dropping for the dislike and the selfish comments. I have read the situation completely different. He disliked him for being selfish and other reasons, and then he also mentioned an incident where he had issues with him (the dropping). I also read into the dropping incident that a lot of the discontent was due to the manner in which it was done.

 

[Snell1234]

There is no world in which dropping him wasn't the right call. He was in the worst form of his career. He'd taken two wickets in three Tests, he couldn't get the West Indian left handers (not just Lara, but Chanderpaul or Adams, or indeed a bunny like Ambrose even) out. He needed a rest and in the end, it was beneficial both to him and everyone else.

Everyone bar Warne seems to realise this.

That is what people's issue is. This guff about wealth envy and the like is a complete red herring.

Wrong. As I said in my above post, people have connected the dislike and the selfish comments to the decision to drop him which I think is totally off the mark.

 

[frankrizzo]

I put flaunt in inverted commas because they aren't actually flaunting their lifestyle and wealth but are seen to be by the nitpicking, jealous and overly sensitive sections of the community.

Buying a ferrari, for example, is seen by these people as flaunting your wealth when in reality, if we all had the money, a lot of us would be doing the same.

So why do so many here give hayden s**t when he comes up with some silly statement?

He is no shane warne behavior wise and he doesn't flaunt his wealth but when he says something stupid people react with ffs haydos stop saying stupid stuff all the time, so could it maybe be the former cricketers who speak rubbish get called on it because they sound foolish and not simply because they have a flashy car?

 

[Snell1234]

So why do so many here give hayden s**t when he comes up with some silly statement?

He is no shane warne behavior wise and he doesn't flaunt his wealth but when he says something stupid people react with ffs haydos stop saying stupid stuff all the time, so could it maybe be the former cricketers who speak rubbish get called on it because they sound foolish and not simply because they have a flashy car?

Because he speaks in a lecturing, houlier-than-thou tone similar to Adam Goodes.

 

[04 Durif]

The only thing I find funny is people like you getting so wound up by Shane Warne's comments and so ready to hammer him for them when really the issue is so trivial and minor. I'll let you get back to that perch you need to seat yourself on.

Is it not funnier watching someone get wound up by people commenting on someone's comments about someone else?

 

[Damon_3388]

Because he speaks in a lecturing, houlier-than-thou tone similar to Adam Goodes.

Father Matthew Hayden, giving his sermon from the pulpit.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Shane Warne is probably the worst person to play for Australia in the last 25 years http://www.theage.com.au/business/t...ne-foundation-fell-apart-20160211-gmrbjs.html

 

[Snell1234]

Shane Warne is probably the worst person to play for Australia in the last 25 years http://www.theage.com.au/business/t...ne-foundation-fell-apart-20160211-gmrbjs.html

So much wrong with your post.

1. Do you realise how hard it is to run charities and have a good percentage of all revenue to go to the cause? Check out some of the major charities and their ratios. It is even harder for the smaller ones like TSWF.
2. Shane is the founder of the charity, but it is actually the people running it that should be held responsible for its failings.
3. Just because the charity failed is not a bad thing (see point 1).
4. Instead of commending someone for having a go and ultimately coming up a little bit short of the long term vision, we pot the guy. He could have easily sat with his arse on his hands and done nothing. I'd rather him have a go and for it not to quite work out than for him to do nothing.
5. No surprises that it is fairfax going after him and which way they lean!

 

[Snell1234]

Is it not funnier watching someone get wound up by people commenting on someone's comments about someone else?

Not wound up. But I'm not going to sit by and let absolute rubbish go unchallenged.

 

[Gough]

Jason Warne posts here. Who knew?

 

[peternorth]

charities are the champion for the socialist left

 

[Doss]

Because he speaks in a lecturing, houlier-than-thou tone similar to Adam Goodes.

So for everyone else there's a reason/character flaw related to them as to why people get annoyed.

With Warne it's just tall poppy syndrome.

Got it.

 

[Snell1234]

So for everyone else there's a reason/character flaw related to them as to why people get annoyed.

With Warne it's just tall poppy syndrome.

Got it.

Lefty logic - misquoting and misinterpreting comments to fashion them into something completely different to what was said.

charities are the champion for the socialist left

And your point?

 

[Doss]

I'll take that as a yes with my pesky lefty logic.

 

[Father Jack]

Why is Goodes holier-than-thou?

 

[Snell1234]

Why is Goodes holier-than-thou?

I'm only posting on this once as I will be accused of de-railing the thread. Accepting the award for Australian of the year and then using the speech to tell Australians that we are racist is acting houlier-than-thou. Repeatedly telling us that this is not our land and that we should show respect is holier-than-thou. The whole way he drove his cause by lecturing and criticising us only served to create divisions.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I'm only posting on this once as I will be accused of de-railing the thread. Accepting the award for Australian of the year and then using the speech to tell Australians that we are racist is acting houlier-than-thou. Repeatedly telling us that this is not our land and that we should show respect is holier-than-thou. The whole way he drove his cause by lecturing and criticising us only served to create divisions.

Sounds like he makes some fair points, to me.

 

[peternorth]

And your point?

warne supporting a socialist organisation

 

[Snell1234]

Sounds like he makes some fair points, to me.

You'd be in the absolute minority who would support the way Goodes went about promoting his cause.

 

[Snell1234]

warne supporting a socialist organisation

I fail to see the point though?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

You'd be in the absolute minority who would support the way Goodes went about promoting his cause.

I just think focusing on how he gets his point across is less important than the point itself.

I get what you're saying though.

 

[Snell1234]

I just think focusing on how he gets his point across is less important than the point itself.

I get what you're saying though.

I also disagree with his points as well I might add for full disclosure.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I also disagree with his points as well I might add for full disclosure.

Fair enough. Not getting into an argument about these issues here.

 

[Snell1234]

Fair enough. Not getting into an argument about these issues here.

Exactly!

 

[peternorth]

is anyone jealous of steve waugh?