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Going need to you confirm you're talking about Dean, not Mason.
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We need to talk about Oscar
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Ok, so Gawn won the ruck but I thought Oscar was far from disgraced.
Gawn didn't have much influence around the ground did he?
No big influential marks and no monster of a goal, as he has tended to do against us in past games.
Gawn didn't have much influence around the ground did he?
No big influential marks and no monster of a goal, as he has tended to do against us in past games.
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I'm surprised that people are potting O. Gawn should go down as in the echelon of best rucks this game has ever seen.
I thought O did very well around the ground. Gawn has had his marking game back up again this year. Didn't notice that part of his game tonight. Big O competed really well.
I thought O did very well around the ground. Gawn has had his marking game back up again this year. Didn't notice that part of his game tonight. Big O competed really well.
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The prevailing opinion says Gawn flogged Oscar but the stats show a closer battle. Oscar was let down by his midfielders standing on their heels and poor handling off the hitouts early on. Gawn and Viney are getting praised, and although Viney put in a big shift with 20 contested possessions, 34.6 percent disposal efficiency undoes a lot of that good work.
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I thought I must have been going bonkers, live at the game I thought Oscar was quite good all game against Gawn and also lifted his level in the 2nd half.
I get home read through most of the review thread and this one and thought gee I am a horrible judge(some might say yes always have been
), the Big O was copping it.Glad you and a few others restored my scant remaining sanity, thanks luthor.
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I think Grundy will present another major challenge for Big O, both Gawn and him have an athleticism that he can't quite handle. But they are two of the best rucks in the comp, and our midfield need to do a better job of reading their work to help because Oscar is going to win less than half of those.
He was far from embarrassed in this game, just always going to be a challenge he has to do the best he can in.
He was far from embarrassed in this game, just always going to be a challenge he has to do the best he can in.
Viceregal
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Never for one instant did I think of Mason in the context of a greatest ruckman conversation...
irel
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I thought I must have been going bonkers, live at the game I thought Oscar was quite good all game against Gawn and also lifted his level in the 2nd half.
I get home read through most of the review thread and this one and thought gee I am a horrible judge(some might say yes always have been
Glad you and a few others restored my scant remaining sanity, thanks luthor.
I have no idea why people are denigrating Oscar's game vs Gawn.
Gawn is my Supercoach number one ruck and BigO kept Gawn to his lowest score of the year.
79 F***** points. 79.
Voss the boss
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To me it was more that Gawn didn’t have the influence around the ground like he usually does. And had we lost it would not have been because of Gawn - which usually is a major reason we do lose to Melbourne. A pass for Oscar tonight.
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I would give him a D for the first half and a B for the second.
He finished the game stronger than he started that’s for sure.
As for Gawn, he was a good reason for their second quarter dominance.
And the reason for his minor impact around ground was due to our movement of the ball in the second half especially to keep the ball away from him.
Would love to see the hit out to advantage. In particular Oscars tap work is where he has the biggest issue and in the last few weeks has the biggest improvement. But from my eyes Gawn monsters him at the stoppages all night.
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I think it was 6-1 in the first half
Yeah I heard the commentators say that too.
Agree with this, had his colours lowered but even then it was more Gawns tap work that was hurting us, never really impacted the game around the ground at all. Oscar won the second half too I thought
was the same old passive oscar in the first half then he bashed in hard after that and was far more effective
I thought he was comparatively great. He isn't in Gawn's league but how many rucks are? If he can negate to a large extent the influence of guys like this, the rest of our team is good enough to capitalise. Big O is not a superstar and he never will be but if he can do what he did last night against the gun rucks, he's done his job and then some.
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I thought Gawns tapwork was a big part of Melbourne kicking 8 in a quarter when they won about 15 clearances in a row
Yeah I can say he did a decent job at negating Gawn around the ground, but he was mostly beaten in the ruck itself. Still his form the last few weeks has been good so I'm excited to see how he goes against Grundy in a few weeks.
How big is that game going to be. Grand Final rehearsal I reckon.
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We can only hope. We have a long way to get there. Sydney not doing us any favors against freo today.
As of right now though, we are officially in the 8 regardless of results tomorrow.
Toffee Lion
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Defended him last time but my god did he need to dominate today and didn't.
He wasn't awful but the matchup he had, he should have got more out of today.
He wasn't awful but the matchup he had, he should have got more out of today.
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Has had a great 8 weeks - today brutal but can’t throw the good work out.
He was close to best on in the first quarter, which was a big reason we were dominating the game. Was a non factor after that really, but as you say with that match up he really needed to have a major say on the result. He didn’t unfortunately.
Toffee Lion
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I don't think it was brutal and agree he's been pretty good for a while now.
Just expected a bit more on the matchup alone, maybe that's asking a bit too much. He is a good ruckman but maybe hasn't got the tools to really dominate his opponent. I've always thought of him as a proper competitor.
