Universal Love Welcome to Carlton Graham Wright

[gbatman]

This is revisionist nonsense. Ed had every right to be in the side, but so did Dow, playing in vastly different roles.

Fisher was and remains crap in defence because he gets exploited by direct opponents. Bottom of the barrell football team in North, and he's barely played this year after being figured out in round 1. That was a great trade for us.

Fisher happily throws his body in at a stoppage, but avoids it like the plague in terms of aerial contests, and can't keep up on the outside so he just winds up being a seagull there. Was a terrible pick unless we had a system for a small clearance mid.

Penny has dropped for the North coaching staff too, who are back to the drawing board in terms of figuring out where to play him.

Cuningham just couldn't stay fit, but perhaps part of the issue earlier on was how we flog our players. He's now barely appearing for the Dogs in the VFL, and barely impacting on top of that.

Revisionist? I've been going on about this sort of thing for four years warning of this very things. Suprise suprise, here we are.

Ed Was cooked. We were forced to play Dow that season and he was good, proved me right despite Voss not rating him. Ed played one season too long. He didn't have the right to be in the side he was done two years prior. For everyone bagging Docherty currently, Ed was three times as bad.

Fisher was good in our side, end of story. Yes, in a crap side he is crap, he was what that team at the time needed. Taking him out meant Saad was taken out of the game and we had no run and got slaughtered by a side with running half backs. Going in with one was dumb. We liteally had a season defining game towards the end of the 2023 season against Melbourne who were a top side, Dow was good, blind freddy could see he added blance and pace to the midfield. Fisher was one of the best that night, got a lot of the ball, run and carry, accurate kicking all the qualities we desperately needed. Both players promptly dropped for players who were terrible. I bet if you put Nick Daicos in North's backline he would struggle.

Cuningham was fit at the time, he was our best defensive half forwards. Owies was also one of our better defensive forwards. Guess what happened against the Lions? Their half backs slaughtered us. They exploited us for being too slow in the middle.

If Voss had of selected the side properly and did choke and fall in love with unfit out of form big bodies, we would not have had to rely on inaccurate kicking from Sydney and Melbourne, we would have beaten both on our merits. We would have been 50/50 with Brisbane to get through that preliminary final.

I firmly believe a better coach could have got us into the 2023 grand final. No way were we winning it but that is what I believe.

Obsession with big bodies and accumulators. Not rating pace and kicking. This is how he has F***ed the list. Years of selecting the team like this has defined how we play the game and our game plan, which as we all know is well and truely f***ed. Many of the players would know this and this is why he has probably lost them.

FMD he can't coach! Even when we had some success he was making mistakes! He's been the problem the whole time. Even when we have done well I an adament we could have done better.

I like Voss, I wish he was the one but his vision of the game is crap, he's a poor tactician and we have done him no favours with the second rate coaching group we have put around him.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Revisionist? I've been going on about this sort of thing for four years warning of this very things. Suprise suprise, here we are.

Ed Was cooked. We were forced to play Dow that season and he was good, proved me right despite Voss not rating him. Ed played one season too long. He didn't have the right to be in the side he was done two years prior. For everyone bagging Docherty currently, Ed was three times as bad.

Fisher was good in our side, end of story. Yes, in a crap side he is crap, he was what that team at the time needed. Taking him out meant Saad was taken out of the game and we had no run and got slaughtered by a side with running half backs. Going in with one was dumb. We liteally had a season defining game towards the end of the 2023 season against Melbourne who were a top side, Dow was good, blind freddy could see he added blance and pace to the midfield. Fisher was one of the best that night, got a lot of the ball, run and carry, accurate kicking all the qualities we desperately needed. Both players promptly dropped for players who were terrible. I bet if you put Nick Daicos in North's backline he would struggle.

Cuningham was fit at the time, he was our best defensive half forwards. Owies was also one of our better defensive forwards. Guess what happened against the Lions? Their half backs slaughtered us. They exploited us for being too slow in the middle.

If Voss had of selected the side properly and did choke and fall in love with unfit out of form big bodies, we would not have had to rely on inaccurate kicking from Sydney and Melbourne, we would have beaten both on our merits. We would have been 50/50 with Brisbane to get through that preliminary final.

I firmly believe a better coach could have got us into the 2023 grand final. No way were we winning it but that is what I believe.

Obsession with big bodies and accumulators. Not rating pace and kicking. This is how he has F***ed the list. Years of selecting the team like this has defined how we play the game and our game plan, which as we all know is well and truely f***ed. Many of the players would know this and this is why he has probably lost them.

FMD he can't coach! Even when we had some success he was making mistakes! He's been the problem the whole time. Even when we have done well I an adament we could have done better.

I like Voss, I wish he was the one but his vision of the game is crap, he's a poor tactician and we have done him no favours with the second rate coaching group we have put around him.

Do you want to revisit your first 1/2 doz or so posts in the Michael Voss thread?

 

[Jimmae]

Revisionist? I've been going on about this sort of thing for four years warning of this very things. Suprise suprise, here we are.

Ed Was cooked. We were forced to play Dow that season and he was good, proved me right despite Voss not rating him. Ed played one season too long. He didn't have the right to be in the side he was done two years prior. For everyone bagging Docherty currently, Ed was three times as bad.

Fisher was good in our side, end of story. Yes, in a crap side he is crap, he was what that team at the time needed. Taking him out meant Saad was taken out of the game and we had no run and got slaughtered by a side with running half backs. Going in with one was dumb. We liteally had a season defining game towards the end of the 2023 season against Melbourne who were a top side, Dow was good, blind freddy could see he added blance and pace to the midfield. Fisher was one of the best that night, got a lot of the ball, run and carry, accurate kicking all the qualities we desperately needed. Both players promptly dropped for players who were terrible. I bet if you put Nick Daicos in North's backline he would struggle.

Cuningham was fit at the time, he was our best defensive half forwards. Owies was also one of our better defensive forwards. Guess what happened against the Lions? Their half backs slaughtered us. They exploited us for being too slow in the middle.

If Voss had of selected the side properly and did choke and fall in love with unfit out of form big bodies, we would not have had to rely on inaccurate kicking from Sydney and Melbourne, we would have beaten both on our merits. We would have been 50/50 with Brisbane to get through that preliminary final.

I firmly believe a better coach could have got us into the 2023 grand final. No way were we winning it but that is what I believe.

Obsession with big bodies and accumulators. Not rating pace and kicking. This is how he has F***ed the list. Years of selecting the team like this has defined how we play the game and our game plan, which as we all know is well and truely f***ed. Many of the players would know this and this is why he has probably lost them.

FMD he can't coach! Even when we had some success he was making mistakes! He's been the problem the whole time. Even when we have done well I an adament we could have done better.

I like Voss, I wish he was the one but his vision of the game is crap, he's a poor tactician and we have done him no favours with the second rate coaching group we have put around him.

You make valid points about Voss and Dow, and Voss as a coach, but you're rewriting history to make it more convincing.

Ed trained to be a forward that season, FYI.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Revisionist? I've been going on about this sort of thing for four years warning of this very things. Suprise suprise, here we are.

Ed Was cooked. We were forced to play Dow that season and he was good, proved me right despite Voss not rating him. Ed played one season too long. He didn't have the right to be in the side he was done two years prior. For everyone bagging Docherty currently, Ed was three times as bad.

Fisher was good in our side, end of story. Yes, in a crap side he is crap, he was what that team at the time needed. Taking him out meant Saad was taken out of the game and we had no run and got slaughtered by a side with running half backs. Going in with one was dumb. We liteally had a season defining game towards the end of the 2023 season against Melbourne who were a top side, Dow was good, blind freddy could see he added blance and pace to the midfield. Fisher was one of the best that night, got a lot of the ball, run and carry, accurate kicking all the qualities we desperately needed. Both players promptly dropped for players who were terrible. I bet if you put Nick Daicos in North's backline he would struggle.

Cuningham was fit at the time, he was our best defensive half forwards. Owies was also one of our better defensive forwards. Guess what happened against the Lions? Their half backs slaughtered us. They exploited us for being too slow in the middle.

If Voss had of selected the side properly and did choke and fall in love with unfit out of form big bodies, we would not have had to rely on inaccurate kicking from Sydney and Melbourne, we would have beaten both on our merits. We would have been 50/50 with Brisbane to get through that preliminary final.

I firmly believe a better coach could have got us into the 2023 grand final. No way were we winning it but that is what I believe.

Obsession with big bodies and accumulators. Not rating pace and kicking. This is how he has F***ed the list. Years of selecting the team like this has defined how we play the game and our game plan, which as we all know is well and truely f***ed. Many of the players would know this and this is why he has probably lost them.

FMD he can't coach! Even when we had some success he was making mistakes! He's been the problem the whole time. Even when we have done well I an adament we could have done better.

I like Voss, I wish he was the one but his vision of the game is crap, he's a poor tactician and we have done him no favours with the second rate coaching group we have put around him.

It is revisionist, not to mention Ed and Dow weren’t even competing for the same spot.

 

[bradfisher14]

♫ Wake me up, when it's August 15 ♫

 

[Sqotty from office works]

TDK playing not to get injured, fair enough.
To many vfl rated players.
Voss has lost the team, its obvious.
Curnow playing uninterested.
Cripps in the ruck early this year was abysmal.
Walsh injured back and pace gone.
Harry injured and not contributing.
Another clean out unfortunately

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

It's a big job Wrighty. Don't buy into the mateship. These guys are there to build a winning football side, not to have a chat at the coffee machine.

 

[bradfisher14]

It's a big job Wrighty. Don't buy into the mateship. These guys are there to build a winning football side, not to have a chat at the coffee machine.

Who?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Who?

All of them. Whoever Wright thinks is letting us down.

 

[bradfisher14]

All of them. Whoever Wright thinks is letting us down.

Apologies, I thought you were accusing the people at the club of having a winning mentality.

 

[BlueTongue]

All of them. Whoever Wright thinks is letting us down.

I will buy him an axe and a grinder myself

 

[Wickzki]

Welcome to Carlton, Graham Wright.

 

[Tommy Alvin]

I don’t post much. I don’t think our club has the right to be seen as great. We must earn that right. We haven’t been competitive at serious level this century. So it is is time to stop pretending and start being realistic. A number of players need to go who are paid too much. The coaching team must go and we need to go through yet another rebuild. The day we start building a durable list that’s ready to play 4 quarters and fight for our jumper, is the day we gain respect. We are literally the best team to play against as we lie down and get bullied. I’m sick of it.

TA

 

[Beyond Blue]

I don’t post much. I don’t think our club has the right to be seen as great. We must earn that right. We haven’t been competitive at serious level this century. So it is is time to stop pretending and start being realistic. A number of players need to go who are paid too much. The coaching team must go and we need to go through yet another rebuild. The day we start building a durable list that’s ready to play 4 quarters and fight for our jumper, is the day we gain respect. We are literally the best team to play against as we lie down and get bullied. I’m sick of it.

TA

You should post more often

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

Better pay him double!

 

[DigbysLovechild]

This bloke must be thinking WTF have I got myself into.

 

[Soapy V]

This bloke must be thinking WTF have I got myself into.

I think he is the type will love the challenge

 

[JJBagger]

I think he is the type will love the challenge

I’ve heard from someone who worked at Collingwood under him say he relished making the big, tough calls and decisions. Took over at the pies at a similar ebb

 

[Franc de Borges]

I’ve heard from someone who worked at Collingwood under him say he relished making the big, tough calls and decisions. Took over at the pies at a similar ebb

They had played in five Grand Finals this century before that dip. This is a far bigger task.

 

[BlueBlood15]

I get the feeling Wright has been getting his ducks in a row behind the scenes all year, but especially the last 6-8 weeks, and is going to undertake some serious surgery on the football department soon after 15 August. Cannot come quick enough.

 

[juzza316]

They had played in five Grand Finals this century before that dip. This is a far bigger task.

Not every big tough call will necessarily be the right one either.

 

[JJBagger]

They had played in five Grand Finals this century before that dip. This is a far bigger task.

At the end of 2021, they had an identity crisis unlike any in their history. Fans felt disconnected from the club, the backroom was a mess, players were frustrated and not working hard enough. We are in a horrible spot, but it’s nothing that can’t be fixed

 

[Sqotty from office works]

We accepted Cook who had already climbed the mountain twice and was in for his retirement fund and was past his go getter best.
Hoping we've chosen a go getter who isn't on the mountain top but still working to get there.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We accepted Cook who had already climbed the mountain twice and was in for his retirement fund and was past his go getter best.
Hoping we've chosen a go getter who isn't on the mountain top but still working to get there.

Spoken to multiple people recently who have had a bit to do with Wright over the years. No real 'ITK' information in terms of insider gossip but each of them said he's going to be making some serious waves end of year. Spoke to one last night in fact and he said there's a lot of people at Carlton who would be very nervous and that there's a few higher ups that have had too much to say over the years who should be making other plans for 2026.

My uncle worked with him at the Pies and from all reports he left on quite bitter terms with a few individuals with a point to prove coming across to Carlton.

I just hope its the right changes.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Spoken to multiple people recently who have had a bit to do with Wright over the years. No real 'ITK' information in terms of insider gossip but each of them said he's going to be making some serious waves end of year. Spoke to one last night in fact and he said there's a lot of people at Carlton who would be very nervous and that there's a few higher ups that have had too much to say over the years who should be making other plans for 2026.

My uncle worked with him at the Pies and from all reports he left on quite bitter terms with a few individuals with a point to prove coming across to Carlton.

I just hope it’s the right changes.

Thanks for the intel. Was he referring to players or officials? Or both?