Werewolf Werewolf - Dr. Wolf

[BigJoeD_]

Yes really, the juggs would be gone, the village would have no night action and the vamps could then stockpile. Of course I would hang the next day but there would still always be two vamps come day.

Cmon pants, we both know you're not that selfless

 

[pantskyle]

Cmon pants, we both know you're not that selfless

If I'm evil then my goal is for evil to win, at any cost. I'd have no issues sacrificing myself in that regard, regardless of what you think.

With every post you make I'm more confident that you are the last vampire. I hope those on the fence who those already voted for me can also see what you are doing here.

I'll tell you something though, if the rest think I'm a vampire then they should bold my name. I will actually take just as much enjoyment hanging as the seer and the seer only as I would have from leading the village to victory. Would fill my ego nicely.

I've presented facts and you've presented possibilities easily countered and turned around on yourself.

 

[BigJoeD_]

If I'm evil then my goal is for evil to win, at any cost. I'd have no issues sacrificing myself in that regard, regardless of what you think.

With every post you make I'm more confident that you are the last vampire. I hope those on the fence who those already voted for me can also see what you are doing here.

I'll tell you something though, if the rest think I'm a vampire then they should bold my name. I will actually take just as much enjoyment hanging as the seer and the seer only as I would have from leading the village to victory. Would fill my ego nicely.

I've presented facts and you've presented possibilities easily countered and turned around on yourself.

Are we reading the same exchange? You've even already played the old 'I don't care if I die card'
You seem to be taking all this very personally.

I'm throwing up possibilities for discussion - you seem content to hang me based on a throwaway comment from a condemned, flustered mafioso.
I'm still not convinced tigland was only recruited last night - there is probably a raft of possibilities we are yet to discuss.

But if tigland was recruited last night, then there is only one person that makes sense is the vamp - you.

 

[pantskyle]

Are we reading the same exchange? You've even already played the old 'I don't care if I die card'
You seem to be taking all this very personally.

I'm throwing up possibilities for discussion - you seem content to hang me based on a throwaway comment from a condemned, flustered mafioso.
I'm still not convinced tigland was only recruited last night - there is probably a raft of possibilities we are yet to discuss.

But if tigland was recruited last night, then there is only one person that makes sense is the vamp - you.

Personally? Not sure where you got that from but I'm not really surprised.

Do you actually read your own posts before replying, you're doing exactly what you've accused me of.

Maybe Ant Bear was just using a throwaway line, maybe he had seered you which he could do and knew at that stage you were a vamp.

Facts are facts written down in this thread, you offering ideas and scenarios. I'm rehashing what has actually happened publicly in this thread. You're intent to kill me due to an idea you have which is easily countered to you.

Both of the people who have bolded my name are trying to convince that I'm running some elaborate game of intrigue and mystery yet my actions each day counters that every single time.

If I was the vamp I would have converted the one person I've seered twice and helped save once.

noobz0r outs FP - Evil
Ant Bear outs BJD - Evil?

 

[Millky95]

BigJoeD_ based on what Ant Bear was going on about.

 

[Freight Train]

BigJoeD_.

 

[BigJoeD_]

Personally? Not sure where you got that from but I'm not really surprised.

Do you actually read your own posts before replying, you're doing exactly what you've accused me of.

Maybe Ant Bear was just using a throwaway line, maybe he had seered you which he could do and knew at that stage you were a vamp.

Facts are facts written down in this thread, you offering ideas and scenarios. I'm rehashing what has actually happened publicly in this thread. You're intent to kill me due to an idea you have which is easily countered to you.

Both of the people who have bolded my name are trying to convince that I'm running some elaborate game of intrigue and mystery yet my actions each day counters that every single time.

If I was the vamp I would have converted the one person I've seered twice and helped save once.

noobz0r outs FP - Evil
Ant Bear outs BJD - Evil?

My intent is not to kill you, my intent is to throw ideas around for discussion.

If you took the BJD blinkers off you'd probably agree with what I'm saying about tigland - it just doesn't make sense that he was recruited last night (unless you were the seer/vamp).

As I've stated it wouldn't surprise me if tigland was the one doing the recruiting - we've hardly even touched on that.

You were calling for the vig to hit me last night, then didn't bother to seer me yourself - why?

 

[pantskyle]

My intent is not to kill you, my intent is to throw ideas around for discussion.

If you took the BJD blinkers off you'd probably agree with what I'm saying about tigland - it just doesn't make sense that he was recruited last night (unless you were the seer/vamp).

As I've stated it wouldn't surprise me if tigland was the one doing the recruiting - we've hardly even touched on that.

You were calling for the vig to hit me last night, then didn't bother to seer me yourself - why?

Why would I seer you if I thought the vig would kill you? Duh.

 

[BigJoeD_]

Why would I seer you if I thought the vig would kill you? Duh.

Likewise if you thought the vig would kill me why would you seer him, if you were convinced I was evil?
Surely if the vig killed me it would prove the vig wasn't evil?

There's a lot still not making any sense.

 

[SM]

Likewise if you thought the vig would kill me why would you seer him, if you were convinced I was evil?
Surely if the vig killed me it would prove the vig wasn't evil?

There's a lot still not making any sense.

Because the vigilante would have been converted after killing you.

 

[pantskyle]

Likewise if you thought the vig would kill me why would you seer him, if you were convinced I was evil?
Surely if the vig killed me it would prove the vig wasn't evil?

There's a lot still not making any sense.

I rated knowing for sure the juggs was still completely good over knowing if you were evil.

 

[BigJoeD_]

Because the vigilante would have been converted after killing you.

Yeah I'm not sure, that's why I asked akkaps before about the order of events with a conversion. If the vamp is dead does the conversion still occur?

I rated knowing for sure the juggs was still completely good over knowing if you were evil.

I wish you had've seered me, I wouldn't be in this mess

 

[akkaps]

Yeah I'm not sure, that's why I asked akkaps before about the order of events with a conversion. If the vamp is dead does the conversion still occur?

Yes, means there is a new vamp. Because the conversation happens first.

 

[Wosh]

If Joe goes he takes someone with..could be a good thing.

 

[Wosh]

Or a very bad thing.

 

[pantskyle]

If Joe goes he takes someone with..could be a good thing.

Or a very bad thing.

Only occurs at night.

Which might be why TFT ignored him last night, if BJD expected the Juggs than he could have nominated him as well.

 

[akkaps]

If you kill the vamp during through a lynching it's game over.

 

[Wosh]

Only occurs at night.

Which might be why TFT ignored him last night, if BJD expected the Juggs than he could have nominated him as well.

ah yea sorry

 

[pantskyle]

ah yea sorry

Don't be, it's an interesting thought actually. BJD as a vamp/killerbees hybrid sacrificing himself expecting to land the Juggs.

 

[BigJoeD_]

Don't be, it's an interesting thought actually. BJD as a vamp/killerbees hybrid sacrificing himself expecting to land the Juggs.

I'm not that selfless TBH... and I'm not the vamp. As I've said previously the godfather fingered me in revenge, as I was the first to vote for him yesterday

Could someone tag me if I get voted for today so Incan defend myself?
With work, I can't keep checking the thread, but it would be a shame for the village to lose me.

Sure, no problem.

Ant Bear

 

[pantskyle]

I'm not that selfless TBH... and I'm not the vamp. As I've said previously the godfather fingered me in revenge, as I was the first to vote for him yesterday

Who was your night action to kill last night as the killerbeez?

 

[BigJoeD_]

It's probably all a bit moot now, but what was it that made you suspect tigland last night, TheFreightTrain?

 

[BigJoeD_]

Who was your night action to kill last night as the killerbeez?

Millky95 - I didn't have much of a clue, but he was very quick to jump on me yesterday when Ant Bear said what he said.
It seemed a little convenient.

 

[Wosh]

I'm not putting too much stock in Ant Bear, first time player. I always thought he was part of a group and getting counselled. I dunno why he fingered BJD..perhaps the hitmen advised him?

 

[pantskyle]

I'm not putting too much stock in Ant Bear, first time player. I always thought he was part of a group and getting counselled. I dunno why he fingered BJD..perhaps the hitmen advised him?

But why though?

Ant Bear made mistakes no doubt but every chance he seered BJD and was going to claim he was a good seer, he even said beforehand that the village wouldn't want to lose him, he was trying to make us think he was one of the good seers which was stupid as tigland and I were 100% the mobbenseers.

If we followed his lead and hung BJD and he was a vamp then he might have survived the night, maybe. I would have seered him anyway.