What Does Our Best Back 6 Look Like?

[Hipster Doofus]

Gourdis is surely gone, and i hope Mcguane is delisted as well

 

[Dusty Cotch]

B : Sheedy,Thorp,Bourke

HB: Keane,Jess, Strang

Let's see em kick a goal against that 6 & play fair!

 

[_RT_]

Off topic, but you don't see Edwards as part of our midfield?

Yeah I do, just didn't want to rattle off half a side, although I ended up doing that.

 

[Mr Magic]

B: Dylan Grimes Alex Rance Matthew Dea

HB: Jake Batchelor Jayden Post Chris Newman

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Dylan Grimes - Funny enough, a key component to our back six. Desperate, the best spoiler in the league, composed and helps others. We took a while to recover from his absence.

Alex Rance - The number one member and leader of this back six, has improved out of sight. That spoil against Jarrah was magical. We have found our Full Back for the next 10 years.

Matthew Dea - Like the other two, has great desperation. Really tough, a competitor, but has great balance and poise. Can do the lock down on a small or medium forward.

Jake Batchelor - What a first year this kid has had, and again, tough, hard, desperate. Common theme isn't it. He has a great left foot kick too, poised and finds the right option.

Jayden Post - Has found his spot, he is a great reader of play, a super mark, again ultra courageous, and can provide an outlet out of the backline.

Chris Newman - The leader of the club (although I think he should hand the captaincy over to Cotch) he is the best kick in this back six and is tough, hard and desperate. Played better when Grimes was in the team cause Grimes was great at backing up when he went forward to provide attack.

That is a very solid back six that would be versatile and tough as anything. I would be confident with that back six heading into 2012.

I agree with this. However, Newie is getting on and we can release him upfield at times. I like Post but I am still not sure what his position is and I like him athletically like a poormans version of a Richo but still effective. I am open to drafting another quality half back this year in Oct to improve our run, kicking and height/youth/energy/class in the back half.


Back half big tick though for improvement Well done.

Operation improvement is not over yet but well done

 

[IDGAF]

B : Sheedy,Thorp,Bourke

HB: Keane,Jess, Strang

Let's see em kick a goal against that 6 & play fair!

I'd squeeze Malthouse in there somehow

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I'd squeeze Malthouse in there somehow

I also loved it when Dick Clay moved to FB and sent those spiraling torpedoes into the centre from the kick outs! Those were the days my friend.....

 

[IDGAF]

I also loved it when Dick Clay moved to FB and sent those spiraling torpedoes into the centre from the kick outs! Those were the days my friend.....

Juuuuust wasnt quite old enough to remember that but i have seen the footage

 

[RichosGuns]

FB: Grimes Rance Newman
HB: Houli Moore Deledio

That was easy

 

[BILC]

B: Dylan Grimes Alex Rance Matthew Dea

HB: Jake Batchelor Jayden Post Chris Newman

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Dylan Grimes - Funny enough, a key component to our back six. Desperate, the best spoiler in the league, composed and helps others. We took a while to recover from his absence.

Alex Rance - The number one member and leader of this back six, has improved out of sight. That spoil against Jarrah was magical. We have found our Full Back for the next 10 years.

Matthew Dea - Like the other two, has great desperation. Really tough, a competitor, but has great balance and poise. Can do the lock down on a small or medium forward.

Jake Batchelor - What a first year this kid has had, and again, tough, hard, desperate. Common theme isn't it. He has a great left foot kick too, poised and finds the right option.

Jayden Post - Has found his spot, he is a great reader of play, a super mark, again ultra courageous, and can provide an outlet out of the backline.

Chris Newman - The leader of the club (although I think he should hand the captaincy over to Cotch) he is the best kick in this back six and is tough, hard and desperate. Played better when Grimes was in the team cause Grimes was great at backing up when he went forward to provide attack.

That is a very solid back six that would be versatile and tough as anything. I would be confident with that back six heading into 2012.

Great summary

Sure makes the outlook seem positive!

 

[RichosGuns]

my personal ratings- (where 10 is elite, 8-9 is very good, 5-7 is solid, 4 and below is "ain't up to it...yet"

9/10 - Deledio
8/10 - Newman, Rance
7/10 - Houli, Moore
5/10 - Grimes, Thurstfield
4/10 - McGuane, Grigg, Astbury
3/10 - N/A
2/10 - Post, Dea, O'Rielly, Gourdis
1/10 - Reserved for Oakley Nicholls type footballers only

 

[tugga]

I have some concerns that peope might be pumping Grimes up more than he should be.
He has played half a dozen games of league footy and seems to be a spoiler rather than too much else.
No doubt he has been impressive and may well turn out to be a really good player.
I want to reserve my judgement on him until I have seen more that's all.
After writing off Rance and Vickery early, I won't make the same mistake again. I just want to see a bit more of him before I make an informed call.

 

[RichosGuns]

I have some concerns that peope might be pumping Grimes up more than he should be.
He has played half a dozen games of league footy and seems to be a spoiler rather than too much else.
No doubt he has been impressive and may well turn out to be a really good player.
I want to reserve my judgement on him until I have seen more that's all.
After writing off Rance and Vickery early, I won't make the same mistake again. I just want to see a bit more of him before I make an informed call.

I agree. Like dead artists and musicians his value has gone through the roof since he died (or... got injured in this case).

Astbury showed every bit as much of Grimes last year and then some and had a pretty poor year this year when he was exposed from playing the 3rd tall role.

 

[Mr Magic]

I have some concerns that peope might be pumping Grimes up more than he should be.
He has played half a dozen games of league footy and seems to be a spoiler rather than too much else.
No doubt he has been impressive and may well turn out to be a really good player.
I want to reserve my judgement on him until I have seen more that's all.
After writing off Rance and Vickery early, I won't make the same mistake again. I just want to see a bit more of him before I make an informed call.

Happy, to stick my neck out for Grimes again. Barring injury, worst case scenario an 8!

 

[IDGAF]

I have some concerns that peope might be pumping Grimes up more than he should be.
He has played half a dozen games of league footy and seems to be a spoiler rather than too much else.
No doubt he has been impressive and may well turn out to be a really good player.
I want to reserve my judgement on him until I have seen more that's all.
After writing off Rance and Vickery early, I won't make the same mistake again. I just want to see a bit more of him before I make an informed call.

I agree. Like dead artists and musicians his value has gone through the roof since he died (or... got injured in this case).

Astbury showed every bit as much of Grimes last year and then some and had a pretty poor year this year when he was exposed from playing the 3rd tall role.

I agree with the sentiments ... but the fact was he was a massive step up on Mc Guane which is nothing but a positive .

...and coincidence or not , we leaked like a sieve when he went down . but there are other factors there.

Like our whole list ... needs to continue to improve . has only taken baby steps so far

 

[tugga]

I agree. Like dead artists and musicians his value has gone through the roof since he died (or... got injured in this case).

Astbury showed every bit as much of Grimes last year and then some and had a pretty poor year this year when he was exposed from playing the 3rd tall role.

He's just a kid who has half a dozen games of footy under his belt and has already ripped a hamstring from the bone.
Not trying to put a dampner on him at all. Just need to see more.

 

[santa claws]

B/ dea - rance - grimes.
HB/ deledio - post - batchelor

Would normally include moore as a flanker but dont believe he will get back. loss of pace was a problem before the ops what is it going to be like after.besides i think grimes has shown he can perform moores role more than adequately.

of those 6 the one i would look to upgrade on the most is rance hes just not assured enough and makes too many errors for a fb. will say hes the best option we have atm though and he has improved a fair bit.it could be we still have to find our future fb and chb but most definately rance and post are far better options than what we have had in the past.
have said all along jayden post needs to be played at chb now we will find out next yr just what he has to offer.

i moved newman out of the backline because of pace issues and the fact we now have young blokes who can step into his role.
dea batchelor and deledio give plenty of run size skill and in particular in dea and batchelor accountable no nonsense players.

for me houli conca and newman become part of midfield rotations. all really good ball users coming out of the centre.

 

[JimmyRecard]

I have some concerns that peope might be pumping Grimes up more than he should be.
He has played half a dozen games of league footy and seems to be a spoiler rather than too much else.
No doubt he has been impressive and may well turn out to be a really good player.
I want to reserve my judgement on him until I have seen more that's all.
After writing off Rance and Vickery early, I won't make the same mistake again. I just want to see a bit more of him before I make an informed call.

Must say i agree here.

To me hes a bit of an awkward size. He's proberbly too small to play FB or CHB so his spot depends on the opposition really. Some teams dont really have a third tall and in that sitituation, we would proberbly be better off playing Batchelor as the 'third tall' and enabling another running defender. However at this stage:


Dea - Rance - Grimes

Houli - Post/Astbury - Newman

With Batchelor on the pine rotating through Houli, Grimes and Newman.

* Deledio on the wing, just seems the perfect spot for him where he can exploit his man and play to his strengths of speed and elite kicking. Salivating at him putting the ball inside 50.

* Dea: Ive been impressed with his tackling pressure, speed and looks like a nice left foot kick so the attributes are there, its all about development for him now.

* Post/Astbury: With Trengove resinging with Port, one of these two has to take the spot. Im unsure at this point both have their flaws. Its funny that at the start of the season we were all hailing Astbury, now its Post whos the next saviour. It's a wait and see on this one.

As for Houli, Rance, Newman and Batchelor, there spots are assured.

Mcguane, Thurstfield and Moore, there time is up. Sadly for Moore due to injury as i believe he is a really good third tall, can play small or big and is composed with the ball.

 

[Mr Magic]

Must say i agree here.

To me hes a bit of an awkward size. He's proberbly too small to play FB or CHB so his spot depends on the opposition really. Some teams dont really have a third tall and in that sitituation, we would proberbly be better off playing Batchelor as the 'third tall' and enabling another running defender. However at this stage:


Dea - Rance - Grimes

Houli - Post/Astbury - Newman

With Batchelor on the pine rotating through Houli, Grimes and Newman.

* Deledio on the wing, just seems the perfect spot for him where he can exploit his man and play to his strengths of speed and elite kicking. Salivating at him putting the ball inside 50.

* Dea: Ive been impressed with his tackling pressure, speed and looks like a nice left foot kick so the attributes are there, its all about development for him now.

* Post/Astbury: With Trengove resinging with Port, one of these two has to take the spot. Im unsure at this point both have their flaws. Its funny that at the start of the season we were all hailing Astbury, now its Post whos the next saviour. It's a wait and see on this one.

As for Houli, Rance, Newman and Batchelor, there spots are assured.

Mcguane, Thurstfield and Moore, there time is up. Sadly for Moore due to injury as i believe he is a really good third tall, can play small or big and is composed with the ball.

You make a good point about a running defender. I would chase a classy/pacey rebounding one in the draft to complement Batchelor if available, a bit taller than Houli who can get caught out on taller stronger marking types, for flexibility reasons. This should allow us to release Newman, Houli and Lids upfield at times depending on the matchups.

I am not sure about Moore, due to the injury, but Thursfield and some others could be necessary depth players of considerable use

 

[El Tigre]

B/ dea - rance - grimes.
HB/ deledio - post - batchelor

Would normally include moore as a flanker but dont believe he will get back. loss of pace was a problem before the ops what is it going to be like after.besides i think grimes has shown he can perform moores role more than adequately.

of those 6 the one i would look to upgrade on the most is rance hes just not assured enough and makes too many errors for a fb. will say hes the best option we have atm though and he has improved a fair bit.it could be we still have to find our future fb and chb but most definately rance and post are far better options than what we have had in the past.
have said all along jayden post needs to be played at chb now we will find out next yr just what he has to offer.

i moved newman out of the backline because of pace issues and the fact we now have young blokes who can step into his role.
dea batchelor and deledio give plenty of run size skill and in particular in dea and batchelor accountable no nonsense players.

for me houli conca and newman become part of midfield rotations. all really good ball users coming out of the centre.

You copied my list. Key aspect is no Newman there. But i struggle to find a position for Newman at all. It'll be interesting what they do with him, and whether he can / does form part of the midfield rotations. But then again, Grigg is, so Newman can.

 

[Kingsley Anguish]

Thank goodness the "powers that be" saw Rance as a "work in progress". I'm not sure how many posters on here wanted him gone last year, the previous year etc etc...But it was a bloody lot!

I was at the game on Sunday and couldn't believe how hard and, at times, recklessly he goes at the ball (in a good way). He is one massive unit and he's gonna start frightening people with his pace and attack, it'd be a brave man to step in his way when he's going full pace at the ball. He's begining to own the backline, love it.

 

[santa claws]

You copied my list. Key aspect is no Newman there. But i struggle to find a position for Newman at all. It'll be interesting what they do with him, and whether he can / does form part of the midfield rotations. But then again, Grigg is, so Newman can.

na if you check i think you will find ive been calling for something similar all yr.

two others ive wanted tried back has been orielly and gourdis.

on newman have said for a fair while now he should be a part of midfield rotations. get him in space and let him deliver to our forwards.

dont know how many times on threads i have said i think grimes potentially our best tall defender. a lot have jumped on this season. hes definately fb material if he can bulk up adequately.

have always stated post is a backman and astbury is a forward.

have pumped up dea all yr and before. jumped on him after having arguments with tiger bob about who no what type we should have taken at that pick. thought i had better pay attention to him seeing as i was saying we should not have taken him where we did.

another i would like to see play across hb or given games there next yr is jakobi if he shows enough. for such a late pick he has a lot of very good attributes.

finally medium sized defenders or running defenders is one area i think we have covered would like another tall running defender of quality and needless to say im still hopeful we will go out and find for a better way of saying it a key back who is a gorilla and makes few mistakes.
unlike most im not sold on our talls both forward and back and im certainly not sold on our rucks or our small players. lots of work to be done.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Next year will be a very formative one for the back 6-8 players we will have in our line-up

 

[Tigerbob]

I have some concerns that peope might be pumping Grimes up more than he should be.
He has played half a dozen games of league footy and seems to be a spoiler rather than too much else.
No doubt he has been impressive and may well turn out to be a really good player.
I want to reserve my judgement on him until I have seen more that's all.
After writing off Rance and Vickery early, I won't make the same mistake again. I just want to see a bit more of him before I make an informed call.

I can understand your trepidation, but Grimes has shown it even at the lower levels. I think his position of third tall is really important and one that helps out your other defenders is vital. Grimes major asset is his outstanding reading of the play. He can see things unfolding before it does which allows him to leave his man and help out others.

We missed him greatly when he went down injured. We started to really look at our best the Fremantle game and the Essendon game and he was a great contributor on those days.

I think with himself working on his body, he will be a major reason for our defensive improvement next year.

 

[THE_GUN]

You make a good point about a running defender. I would chase a classy/pacey rebounding one in the draft to complement Batchelor if available, a bit taller than Houli who can get caught out on taller stronger marking types, for flexibility reasons. This should allow us to release Newman, Houli and Lids upfield at times depending on the matchups.

I am not sure about Moore, due to the injury, but Thursfield and some others could be necessary depth players of considerable use

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1. Steven Morris could be on an AFL list next year.
Not for the first time this season, Morris has cut an opposition side to shreds from half back. He is lightning fast, reads the play perfectly so cuts off several kicks, keeps his man quiet and dashes through the middle. (Think Paul Puopolo from Norwood last year). Had a team-high 27 disposals today and will be right in Magarey Medal voting mid-way through the season.