What has happened since the GF. Why? And what is Simo going to do about it?

[Hu$tler]

Not been ruthless and given games to players who don't give basic effort. Jetta would not be picked for Collingwood, Geelong etc with performances he has produced. Then there's Masten lol

 

[Astro7]

This article from the Mongrel Punt seems to confirm a lot of the opinions going around on BF at the moment!
https://themongrelpunt.com/afl/2019/04/28/gbucatseagles
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Darling looks like Robocop out there! Clunky Jack!

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Not been ruthless and given games to players who don't give basic effort. Jetta would not be picked for Collingwood, Geelong etc with performances he has produced. Then there's Masten lol

Jetta has been alright, far from WCs worst.

 

[campaigner___]

Not been ruthless and given games to players who don't give basic effort. Jetta would not be picked for Collingwood, Geelong etc with performances he has produced. Then there's Masten lol

It's weird, there's a lot of Masten bashing but he had 15 touches at 100% efficiency and kicked a goal which you'd probably take if offered at the start of every game.

 

[Eagleboy68]

It's weird, there's a lot of Masten bashing but he had 15 touches at 100% efficiency and kicked a goal which you'd probably take if offered at the start of every game.

From someone like Masten no way. His output is way down.
And it also depends on the manner of those possessions.
Dinky little hand balls between players down back would be easy to get 10 possessions

Maybe from venables yeah.

 

[ziad]

Jetta has been alright, far from WCs worst.

Huge effort as the game progressed. One of our better i thought

 

[Priddis Is Done]

If we are going to name names,

Cripps
Darling
Cole
O Allen
Brander

Then you could throw a blanket over the whole midfield, but you'd start with Masto out, gaff to a wing, sheed to the centre. Then see how that goes before making wholesale changes to the midfield.


That's 6 x changes, a heck of a lot.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Add venables, that's 7

 

[Doashuey]

From someone like Masten no way. His output is way down.
And it also depends on the manner of those possessions.
Dinky little hand balls between players down back would be easy to get 10 possessions

Maybe from venables yeah.

You didnt watch the game then? He was solid , probably in our top 5 or 6.
I called him as an out last week but not this week.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

Wouldn't be too quick to think we will win the next few games and get it back on track. Teams have a blue print that is actually very effective and quite easy to copy. Look how Freo played us but play a totaly different plan against other sides.

Simmo has proven to be stubborn and backing the players and game plan in. Has failed to address the issues for thenlast 11 qtrs of footy.

18th in the comp for inside 50s, tackles and ground ball gets.

That last sentence is scary.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

Poor setups around the contest are an issue. We’ll lose the ball and then no one is in a position to tackle the ball carrier. The amount of space given to players like GAJ was criminal. At least part of that should be laid at the feet of the assistant coaches.

I also think the lack of form in our forward line is having a big impact. Last year our efficiency going forward was a strength together with our ability to lock the ball inside our 50m arc. In contrast its almost comical how teams have been strolling out of defence the last few weeks. As all have pointed out Darling is struggling. I hate to say it but JK looks to be on a steep decline - his pace has evaporated. He’s there to give us a couple of goals and a contest, but now he struggles with leads and creating forward pressure. Cripps is out of form. O Allen is getting experience but not bringing heaps to the team just yet.

JK looks to be a shadow of the player he was. Hopefully, he regains some form though I think we have seen the best of him.

 

[Obeanie1]

Not been ruthless and given games to players who don't give basic effort. Jetta would not be picked for Collingwood, Geelong etc with performances he has produced. Then there's Masten lol

Jetta played well v Cats IMO. One of the few who did.

 

[Obeanie1]

You didnt watch the game then? He was solid , probably in our top 5 or 6.
I called him as an out last week but not this week.

Masten wasn't our worst.

But again 15 disposals doesn't put him in our better players either.

We need to address contested game and inside 50's. Is he going to do that?

 

[surfstitch]

Not sure Ah chee is a winger.

Im 100% certain Gaff is.

Sheed isnt a hff he 100% is an inside mid.

Masten isnt the future and seems caught between his old role and this alledged new defensive role. Play Gaff there FFS.

Get Sheed in the guts where he belongs.

Play Ah chee as a HFF instead of Venners.

Oscar goes back to the WAFL. Brooksby is the mature in form ruck forward, he comes in and stays deep forward.

Brander either plays kp back or plays WAFL.

Rotham gets an extended run. Did nothing wrong and was dropped.

M Allen come in for Masten and plays inside mid instead of Gaff.

Darling? Who knows what is going on there. Running in concrete boots was one comment.

Agree except Waterman for Venners if he's HFF.

Rotham bossed it against Collingwood, or at least fitted in and made the defence better. Then Schofield was put in instead of him for Barrass. Rotham is 193cm but is agile and adaptable and fit.

Brander is like a young Scott Pendlebury can play defence and can play forward but could be best in the defensive wing role. He is a huge talent in my opinion, very clean below the knees and can kick goals. If WC can't find a position for him and give him confidence playing a set number of games other clubs will be lining up for him.

MAllen has grown into the inside mid role with skills and endurance, and also gives a huge effort and with 8 tackles in the weekend turning into a tough nut.

 

[Doashuey]

Masten wasn't our worst.

But again 15 disposals doesn't put him in our better players either.

We need to address contested game and inside 50's. Is he going to do that?

If we need to address contested game why would you look to your outside runner to do that? Its like saying we are too tall back lets bring in more small forwards.
Forward 50s again you need to address imside mids and forward pressure. We get the ball in bit if we dont mark the likes of Ryan and cripps have been invisible so the ball comes out very easily and we get no repeat entries.
But yeah all our woes will be gone once masten is dropped.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

If we need to address contested game why would you look to your outside runner to do that? Its like saying we are too tall back lets bring in more small forwards.
Forward 50s again you need to address imside mids and forward pressure. We get the ball in bit if we dont mark the likes of Ryan and cripps have been invisible so the ball comes out very easily and we get no repeat entries.
But yeah all our woes will be gone once masten is dropped.

What happened to the midfield when Priddis was retired

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

What can you expect with the worst midfield in the comp amirite?

 

[Doashuey]

What happened to the midfield when Priddis was retired

Exactly my point. Deal with what's happening in the centre square before looking beyond it.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

I know it's hard.to compare these teams but I remember in 2007 when Geelong were playing bad footy at the start of the season. There was a shit ton of pressure on Bomber and there was wide speculation that he would be sacked. After round 5 they won every game of the year on their way to the flag

Shows things can change rather quickly. We just gotta be open to the changes.

Very true. Also remember Clarko had to change his game plan because teams figured him out too

 

[Mudguts12]

Masten wasn't our worst.

But again 15 disposals doesn't put him in our better players either.

We need to address contested game and inside 50's. Is he going to do that?

13 of Masto's posssessions uncontested which helps with the 100% DE.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

13 of Masto's posssessions uncontested which helps with the 100% DE.

He's an outside mid. How is this a criticism?

 

[Mudguts12]

I don’t think it is structural so much but more simply work ethic and to many of our players leaving it up to others to do the work.
We are averaging over the first 6 rounds 7 or more players who don’t get the ball 10 times in a game, in those same 6 rounds our opposition sides are averaging less than 3 players who don’t get it 10 times or more.

And we are averaging only 6 players a game getting it 20 times or more while our opponents are averaging 9 players 20 or more.

Now stats are not everything of course but it paints a not so pretty tale that we are not working hard enough.

When we do go forward where is Cripps, Petch and Ryan at the fall of the ball? No where to be seen. It is their job to rove the packs and apply the defensive pressure and the 3 of them are non existent for a majority of games.

Totally agree Gaff needs to go to the wing, he is not a great pressure player so he needs space. His kicking is poorer under more pressure and we need to use his strength which is as an outside mid.

I would replace Masten with Ah Chee and give Ah Chee 5-6 games to settle into the role. He is cleaner than Masten, better one on one and is not in development phase so no excuses.

Venables is simply not that good a footballer and has had numerous time to find his feet, don’t think he is up to it.

Waterman and Allen need to play as Key forwards or not play, it is doing them no good at all playing with JK and JD. It makes us too tall and leaves us one down on the ground to rove and apply pressure.

Rotham should be in for an extended period while Barrass is out. Brander either plays KPD or WAFL for now.

For me though it’s all work ethic and you simply can’t carry 7-10 players every game and expect to have success.

Outside of a ruckman I just cannot fathom that an AFL player in an era with so much uncontested footy can’t get his hands on the pill more than 10 times a game.
Actually feel for Simmo at the minute who is backing in these guys and quite simply they are running around picking up a pay cheque and contributing very little.
If you’re not good enough then that’s ok, but when you have poor work ethic and are good enough it’s simply poor character.
Half the group at the minute simply are not contributing and having one good game every 3-4 weeks is not good enough or acceptable from a premiership team.

What's your view of Hutch so far greatwhiteshark? Should he be picked to play if there's no run with role needed?

 

[Mudguts12]

He's an outside mid. How is this a criticism?

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He's an outside mid. How is this a criticism?

Even an outside mid should have a better spread of uncontested vs contested possessions. Obviously not at the coalface but id expect him to get to more instances during the game where the ball is in dispute at least. Unless their game plan considers his limitations in winning contests to a degree.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

What's your view of Hutch so far greatwhiteshark? Should he be picked to play if there's no run with role needed?

As we have so many players not touching it just purely based on that you would have to play him because he has 100% crack all the time, he has shown before he can get the ball when playing as a mid but his disposal has kept him down. Getting the ball however is our issue and he can find it.
There are some players in our team who some are putting star status on them who get 5-10 times a game consistently. Those are the players we are carrying more often than not.

 

[Obeanie1]

He's an outside mid. How is this a criticism?

Cats are playing Selwood as a winger. Pies Sidebottom. Hawks Smith.

A winger who can win a contested situation will help would it not?

Gaff addressed and improved that part of his game, Masten never has and wont. He is very one dimentional.

Look at Willie. If fit he could play wing, lay a tackle, beat a tackle and win a contest.