What is Wrong with John Anthony?

[TradeDraft]

He came over from the Pies with some Big Hype after his 50 Goal Season in 2009,

So I was wondering why he is not getting a Game for you guys?

 

[Rob]

Played alright for Subi early, had a shit first game against the toast, was relegated back to the WAFL and done nothing there since.

 

[muckypup]

He came over from the Pies with some Big Hype after his 50 Goal Season in 2009,

So I was wondering why he is not getting a Game for you guys?

Maybe thats the problem, we all thought his name was Jack Anthony. We couldnt find him.

Seriously though, with our team so strong at the moment its difficult to find a place for him.

 

[believe_it]

He came over from the Pies with some Big Hype after his 50 Goal Season in 2009,

So I was wondering why he is not getting a Game for you guys?

Perhaps you are in a better position to judge than us. Has had one uninspiring game and dropped. Don't think he has been exceptional in the mcgoos. There have been a few rumors going around. So don't know is the best I can do

 

[TIME IS NOW]

He came over from the Pies with some Big Hype after his 50 Goal Season in 2009,

So I was wondering why he is not getting a Game for you guys?

Because he is a crab. Collingwood knew it and so do we.

McKinley kicked 50 for WCE and went to North... also a crab.

Pretty obvious he doesnt make are best 30 and funnier still cant get a run despite are massive injuries, obviously not considered at all in our plans.

 

[Scham]

He came over from the Pies with some Big Hype after his 50 Goal Season in 2009,

So I was wondering why he is not getting a Game for you guys?

The only hype came from within the club and from Freo supporters on this board. All your mob told us what a meathead he was and what a big mistake we were making by taking him.

You're trying to rub our noses in it!

 

[Notorious_29]

The only hype came from within the club and from Freo supporters on this board. All your mob told us what a meathead he was and what a big mistake we were making by taking him.

You're trying to rub our noses in it!

Also remember them telling us Tarrant wasn't a best 22 player

 

[muckypup]

He came over from the Pies with some Big Hype after his 50 Goal Season in 2009,

So I was wondering why he is not getting a Game for you guys?

Here you go:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822847

 

[Freo_4eva]

The fact that we have pidgeonholed him as a forward, when we should have recruited him as a backman... which he was originally drafted as, and played well there in the VFL last year.

Its Croad all over again

 

[Bradesmaen]

He has been played back at the start of the year, what are you on about?

 

[Freo4life]

He is too far Collingwooded to be saved...

 

[PapaJ]

He has been played back at the start of the year, what are you on about?

Are you talking about those last 15 minutes or so against the Eagles? If so that hardly counts. He's been given the odd run at WAFL down back too but hasn't impressed from the little I know (??) - like the idea though.

There may be other issues (Harvs has referred to a minor injury fairly recently, and there's the rumours of work ethic etc.), but I think a big issue right now is that we don't really need a lead up marking fwd.

It's the one area that we're not too bad at. Mayne, Kepler (until this w/end) have been doing fine. Pav is playing there a bit more and Johno has found a bit of form as the athletic big fwd too. Throw in the Clarke experiment that's going OK, especially when playing as a 'second ruck in the fwd line' type role and I can't see how Jack is going to even break in to that setup.

If we lose Mayne and Bradley and Harvs still wants to play Pav in the middle a fair bit (likely), the I wouldn't be surprised if Jack is given another shot - if he finds some WAFL form first of course.

That's MHO from an outsiders view - internally ... who knows?

 

[Sman-21]

Even if he was kicking bags in the WAFL he would still struggle for us.

Our gameplan for the forward line is to be mobile an create space.
Under Harvey we dont believe in having key targets down forward.
An with Anthony more like an old style traditional full forward he will struggle to fit in.

His best chance to get games with us would be down back but he hasnt even played a full game at WAFL down back he has spent most his time up forward which suggests to me he will only get a game as a forward.
So since he cant fit in to our dumb forward setup i cant see him getting any games an will more likely be used as trade bait.

 

[swannies]

I've watched him probably 3-4 times this year TD and he's walking around like a man that's down. He came over for more opportunities and he hasn't found those opportunities. He hasn't been creating or running hard on the field, to me it looks like it's all too hard, in a slump if you will.

Playing him back, CHB, with the ball in front of him could be a good thing. Get's him finding the ball, get's his confidence on the rise. When he's up and going he can play, it's just not happening for him at the moment. Then you get glimpses of him hitting a contest hard, causing spillage, mayhem whatever and you think, if he could just sustain it. Managed right, he'll get back.

 

[PapaJ]

I've watched him probably 3-4 times this year TD and he's walking around like a man that's down. He came over for more opportunities and he hasn't found those opportunities. He hasn't been creating or running hard on the field, to me it looks like it's all too hard, in a slump if you will.

Playing him back, CHB, with the ball in front of him could be a good thing. Get's him finding the ball, get's his confidence on the rise. When he's up and going he can play, it's just not happening for him at the moment. Then you get glimpses of him hitting a contest hard, causing spillage, mayhem whatever and you think, if he could just sustain it. Managed right, he'll get back.

Good call Swanies. I certainly think it's crazy not to try him in the back line role. He's got the raw goods and, as has been said many times, he has actually played in that position in his development days. Playing a bit back then fwd for both confidence, development and to become a more usable option for coaches has worked for Watts for Melbourne, it's worked for others - I don't see why not, but for some reason it's not happening.

 

[Rudeurrection]

Agree with the previous poster, cant believe he hasnt been tried in the backline since he cant fit in your forward line.

Played some handy games for the Pies down back, maybe there are other issues (such as a relapse in his attitude) that we are unaware of over here though.

 

[theGav56]

We are screaming our for a forward. At this stage either his recruitment was a mistake, or his management is not good. Either way it is not at a massive cost to us, but is not good to see. We are a club that cannot afford to get things wrong.

 

[Lach72]

He's got a calf injury

 

[Freo Blood]

He's got a calf injury

Not good enough for AFL at Collingwood so no surprise he is not good enough for us. It's not like he was banging the door done in the magoos at Collingwood.

His recruitment was a mistake, it looked risky at the time and is proving to be so. We already had a slightly undersized, immobile, one dimensional lead up forward playing at South Fremantle. I don't think we should have replaced him when we gave him the arse.

Even though he cost nothing draft wise, if we gave him 3 years (I stand to be corrected) that is the dumbest thing we've done for a while? It was clear it was risky and no-one else would have offered him that deal, so why did we?

 

[malpaso]

Not good enough for AFL at Collingwood so no surprise he is not good enough for us. It's not like he was banging the door done in the magoos at Collingwood.

His recruitment was a mistake, it looked risky at the time and is proving to be so. We already had a slightly undersized, immobile, one dimensional lead up forward playing at South Fremantle. I don't think we should have replaced him when we gave him the arse.

Even though he cost nothing draft wise, if we gave him 3 years (I stand to be corrected) that is the dumbest thing we've done for a while? It was clear it was risky and no-one else would have offered him that deal, so why did we?

I think the club knew what it was doing. I think the problem is that JA figured he'd be a walk up start and his mental fragility has come to the fore, he might even be suffering from depression. This has been compounded by the fact Bradley started so well up forward for us and contributes in the ruck.

At the moment it seems that the club is working to get him in the right frame of mind as they do see him contributing at both ends of the ground.

 

[Stronzo]

We got this bloke for 2 more years

Geez I hope he pulls his ****ing finger out and has a sustained crack at it. Sulking like he seems to be won't get him anywhere.

 

[prattsta]

I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit. He's still young - younger than Ballantyne, Silvagni and Barlow for example - he is a KP player, he's just moved to a new club, new home and as such we should cut him some slack.

In 2 years he will be younger than Kepler Bradley is this season. Heck, he'll be younger than Mundy is this year. Have some patience people, he's not hurting anyone by developing in the WAFL.

 

[Bad Brain]

Has effectively replaced Ryan Murphy on our list.

 

[Bender571]

Even though he cost nothing draft wise, if we gave him 3 years (I stand to be corrected) that is the dumbest thing we've done for a while? It was clear it was risky and no-one else would have offered him that deal, so why did we?

That's exactly why we offered him that deal, because we wanted him to be available at our pick in the PSD. It was the same gamble we took with McPhee the year before. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't, both cases are yet to be determined.

 

[Clay Davis]

I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit. He's still young - younger than Ballantyne, Silvagni and Barlow for example - he is a KP player, he's just moved to a new club, new home and as such we should cut him some slack.

In 2 years he will be younger than Kepler Bradley is this season. Heck, he'll be younger than Mundy is this year. Have some patience people, he's not hurting anyone by developing in the WAFL.

Well said, prattsta.