What shits ya!

[Beerfish]

"It's my constitutional right. USA USA"

Guaranteed vote winner along with "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

 

[Doss]

Jesus. Is that for real? That's a pretty incredible drop.

Yep. For real.

In 1990 there were six murders a day. Have a read: http://citylimits.org/2010/10/26/the-murder-that-changed-new-york-city/

 

[Doss]

Guaranteed vote winner along with "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

And following on from that, "keep the death penalty!"

 

[Pweter]

And following on from that, "keep the death penalty!"

I won't go there and I know we've debated it before. I think there are circumstances where the death penalty is a just punishment, however I know you're firmly opposed and can respect that.

 

[Howard Moon]

if only they knew terror reigned within their own borders..

The terroists.. terroists.. terror.. terror ..terror. On reapeat on every news report, culture of fear, fight the terroists, terror, ...Terroists, They dont all wear scarves and burkas...

all they need carry is a gun.

Wheres the army of the willing now?

It must be too hard to look in the mirror, to see the thing you are fighting is the thing you are.

 

[Doss]

I won't go there and I know we've debated it before. I think there are circumstances where the death penalty is a just punishment, however I know you're firmly opposed and can respect that.

I'm not even debating the issue itself there so much, more pointing out the fact their attitude is to be purely punitive- rather than addressing the root cause of the problem.

 

[Jade]

The NRA.

Murderous ****ing criminals that should be bludgeoned to death with the very things they allow to kill the innocent.

****ing campaigners. Lowest scum on the earth.

 

[Doss]

Late to the party!

 

[Pweter]

Grand entrance though

 

[Harlequin]

Yep. For real.

In 1990 there were six murders a day. Have a read: http://citylimits.org/2010/10/26/the-murder-that-changed-new-york-city/

Very confronting article

 

[Howard Moon]

Very confronting article

i dare say people outside of Melbourne who would read articles on our underworld gage war would reel in horror but in reality we were living our lives amongst it like it didnt exist.

 

[CourtzMajora]

The fourth shooting at a US campus since August ...

 

[Pweter]

The fourth shooting at a US campus since August ...

This doesn't have the last couple, but here's from Columbine to now.

Yeah, but there's no problem is there Mr NRA president?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...mass-shootings-in-the-US-since-Columbine.html

 

[Beerfish]

Yep. For real.

In 1990 there were six murders a day. Have a read: http://citylimits.org/2010/10/26/the-murder-that-changed-new-york-city/

Wow. Surprised it hasn't been made into a movie.

 

[Howard Moon]

http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-prevent-says-only-nation-where-regularly-ha-51444

 

[eth-dog]

There are two types of people who like America's gun laws:

1. The American gun lobby
2. People who want America to be wiped out.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

i suppose the US presidents are on set terms anyway, it wouldnt be a selfless act at the end of your term to take one for the team and make the changes? you are going out anyway, why not leave a lasting legacy!

It'd never get past Congress or the Senate - both are controlled by Republicans.

Would never go any further than that though and in all honesty they'd be pushing shit uphill trying to even get that up on a national scale.


You'd like to think so but all the available evidence points to the contrary. They've been having several massacres a year for years now. They just don't seem to get it.

It was a tough battles for the Democrats to ban Grenade Launchers form being available to the public. Grenade Launchers. And then George Bush made them legal again in 2004. Insanity.

Plus the murder rate in most places has actually declined markedly and that doesn't help the argument, perversely enough.

For example, there were 2245 murders in New York City in 1990, compared to 328 in 2014.

NRA will cite that and say "where's the problem?"

I think it was the guys that wrote Freakonomics that proved that the drop in murders (and crime in general) was due largely to abortion being legalised.

 

[Beerfish]

I think it was the guys that wrote Freakonomics that proved that the drop in murders (and crime in general) was due largely to abortion being legalised.

I've read that book and seen the doco. Because abortion was legalised there were actually less kids being born into dire social circumstances which in turn lead to less desperate criminals. Is that how the theory went? Didn't they also prove that how well you do in life can be based on the name you're given or something? And there was something about climate change and the amount of horseshit around pre industrial revolution..

 

[Doss]

The ending of the crack epidemic was also a big factor in the lessening of the murder rate.

 

[eth-dog]

The use of premierships to say one player is better than another.

Schoenmakers>Ablett Sr then.

 

[Doss]

The use of premierships to say one player is better than another.

Schoenmakers>Ablett Sr then.

Except no one actually claims that Schoe is better than Sr, but yes I get the annoyance.

 

[eth-dog]

Except no one actually claims that Schoe is better than Sr, but yes I get the annoyance.

It's still frustrating.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

It's still frustrating.

I thought this was schoenmaker's first?

 

[eth-dog]

I thought this was schoenmaker's first?

It is. Gary Sr never won one.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

It is. Gary Sr never won one.

Sorry, I read it as Jnr. My bad.