Back by popular demand (well, one Hawthorn supporter Strapping Young Lad ) is my annual "Which list is in the most trouble age profile wise, 2023 edition"
This thread is about the older players of each club and how ready the players underneath them are ready to take over, and also importantly how many younger talented players are coming through their system as well.
So some ground rules here. I have ranked the teams based on how many players they have over the age of 29, as 29 is about the time that some players begin slowing down. I have also only picked players that have played a minimum of 5 games as at least there is enough body of work there to begin to discuss what those players could become.
Each person will have 3 selections for the 3 clubs that they think are about to enter a world of hurt.
Also for fun which clubs do you think are doing really well with their age profile (though obviously not in the poll)
Geelong (14)
32+ - Hawkins, Smith, Touhy, Dangerfield, Stanley, Ceglar
29-32 – Blicavas, Rohan, Duncan, Menegola, Guthrie, Stewart, Cameron, Bews
27-29 – Kolodjashnij, Atkins
25-27 – O'Connor, Bowes
23-25 – Parfitt, Simpson, Guthrie, Ratugolea, Close, Henry. Stengle, Miers
21-23 – De Koning
Under 21 – Bruhn. Henry, Holmes
Collingwood (10)
32+ - Pendlebury, Howe, Sidebottom, Cox
29-32 – Elliot, Mihocek, Mitchell, Hoskin-Elliott, Adams, Crisp
27-29 – McStay, Cameron, Moore, De Goey
25-27 – Markov, Maynard, Frampton, Noble, Wilson, Johnson
23-25 – Lipinski, J.Diacos, Kreuger, Carmichael, Murphy, Quaynor, Hill
21-23 – Bianco, McGreery, Ruscoe, Macrae
Under 21 – Ginnivan, McInnes, Diacos
Brisbane (10)
32+ - Zorko, Rich
29-32 – Gunston, Lyons, Lester, Neale, Adams, Fort, McCarthy, Daniher
27-29 – Cameron, McInerney, Gardiner
25-27 – McKenna, Cookatoo, Andrews, Dunkley, Mathieson, Joyce, Hipwood, Ah Chee, Berry, McLuggage
23-25 – Fullarton, Starcevich, Answerth, Bailey, Payne, Rayner, Madden
21-23 – Coleman, Prior, Robertson
Under 21 – Sharp
Western Bulldogs (10)
32+ - Jones
29-32 – Durya, Keath, Liberatore, Bruce, Johannisen, Lobb, Treloar, Crozier, Hannan
27-29 – O'Brien, Macrae, Scott, Bontempelli, McComb, McLean
25-27 – Daniel, Dale, Smith, Gardner, English, Williams, Sweet
23-25 – Baker, Vandermeer, Richards, Naughton
21-23 – Khamis, West, Smith, Weightman, Garcia, McNeill
Under 21 – Ugle-Hagan
Richmond (9)
32+ - Riewoldt, Tarrant, Cotchin
29-32 – Martin, Grimes, Pickett, Prestia, Lynch, Broad
27-29 – McIntosh, Vlastuin, Nankervis, Short
25-27 – Soldo, Castagna, Hopper, Rioli, Baker, Taranto, Graham
23-25 – Bolton, Miller, Balta
21-23 – Mansell, Ross, Cumberland, Dow, Ralphsmith
Under 21 – M.Rioli, Sonsie, Gibcus
Sydney (8)
32+ - Franklin, Rampe, Hickey
29-32 – Reid, Parker, Fox, Lloyd, Cunningham
27-29 –
25-27 – P.McCartin, Heeney, Papley, Melican, Mills, Clarke, Francis, Ladhams
23-25 – Florent, Hayward, McLean, Amartey, Wicks, T.McCartin, Blakey
21-23 – McInerney, Rowbottom, Stephens, Warner, Campbell
Under 21 – McDonald, Gulden
Gold Coast (8)
32+ - Casboult
29-32 – Day, Witts, Swallow, Ellis, Sexton, Stein, Anderson
27-29 – Collins, Atkins, Lemmens, Holman, Burgess, Miller, Weller, Blakely
25-27 – Farrar, Chol, Long, Fiorini, Macpherson, Ainsworth
23-25 – Constable, Ballard, Power
21-23 – Berry, King, Lukosius, Graham, Anderson, Budarick, Rosas, Rowell, Flanders, Sharp, Oea, Jeffrey
Under 21 – Davies, Hollands
GWS (8)
32+ - Ward, Keeffe, Davis
29-32 – Lloyd, Haynes, Kennedy, Greene, Coniglio
27-29 – Whittfield, Kelly, Hogan, Preuss
25-27 – Himmelberg, Flynn, Buckley
23-25 – Wehr, Cumming, Perryman, Daniels, Taylor, Briggs, Riccardi
21-23 – Bedford, O'Halloran, Idun, Brown, Peatling, Green, Ash
Under 21 – Stone, Callaghan
West Coast (8)
32+ - Hurn, Naitanui, Shuey
29-32 – McGovern, Cripps, Darling, Gaff, Yeo
27-29 – Kelly, Hunt, Sheed, Barrass
25-27 - Ryan, Duggan, Clark, Cole, Petrevski-Seton, Rotham
23-25 – Weterman, Witherden, Jones, Allen, Petruccelle, West, Foley
21-23 – Williams, Jamieson, O'Neill, H.Edwards, L.Edwards
Under 21 – Winder, Hough, Bazzo
Melbourne (7)
32+ - Hibberd
29-32 – Melksham, Gawn, May, T.McDonald, Brown, Tomlinson
27-29 – Viney, Grundy, Hunter, Dunstan, Salem, Harmes, Petracca, Neal-Bullen, Brayshaw, Langdon, Smith, Lever
25-27 – Fritsch, Oliver, Schache
23-25 – Petty, Spargo, Chandler
21-23 – Sparrow, Jordon, Pickett, Rivers
Under 21 – Bowey
Fremantle (7)
32+ - Walters
29-32 – Colyer, Fyfe, Wilson, Hamling, Taberner, O'Meara
27-29 – Hughes, Pearce, Aish, Ryan
25-27 – Corbett, Switkowski, Wagner, Schultz, Banfield
23-25 – Darcy, Cox, Brodie, Brayshaw
21-23 – Fredrick, Clark, Serong, Young, Henry, Jackson, Chapman
Under 21 – O'Drisoll, Treacy, Walker, Erasmus
St Kilda (6)
32+ -
29-32 – Campbell, Ross, Webster, Hill, Wood, Crouch
27-29 – Membrey, Sinclair, Jones, Billings, Marshall, Steel, Hayes, Wilkie
25-27 – Howard, McKenzie, Butler, Cordy, Gresham, Highmore
23-25 – Battle, Paton, Higgins, Clark, Coffield, Stocker, Bytel
21-23 – King, Sharman, Byrnes, Connolly
Under 21 – Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens
Port Adelaide (5)
32+ - Boak, Dixon, Jonas
29-32 – McKenzie, Lycett
27-29 – Clurey, Aliir, Wines, Rioli, Dumont, Fantasia, Bryne-Jones, Finalyson
25-27 – Burton, Bonner, Houston, Powell-Pepper
23-25 – Drew, Marshall, Farrell, Hayes, Rozee
21-23 – Duursma, Butters, McEntee, Evans, Georgiades, Mead, Bergman
Under 21 – Jones, Horne-Francis, Burgoyne
North Melbourne (6)
32+ - Goldstein, Hall, ziebell
29-32 – Shiels, Cunnington, Greenwood
27-29 – Corr, McDonald, Howe, Turner
25-27 – Tucker, McKay, Simpkin
23-25 – Logue, Zurhaar, Larkey, Stephenson, Bonar, Xerri, Young, Davies-Uniacke, Coleman-Jones
21-23 – Thomas, Taylor, Scott, Perez, Mahoney, Spicer, Powell
Under 21 – Lazzaro, Phillips, Ford, Curtis
Adelaide (5)
32+ - Sloane, Walker
29-32 – Smith, Seedsman, Laird
27-29 – Crouch, McAdam, O'Brien, Strachan
25-27 – Keays, Doedee, Dawson, Milera
23-25 – Himmelberg, Hinge, Murphy, McPherson, Fogarty, Brown, Butts, Jones, Sholl
21-23 – Keane, Rankine, McHenry, Hately, Hamill, Murphy, Schoenberg, Worrell, Gollant, Berry, Pamell
Under 21 – Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Cook, Soligo, Rachele
Essendon (5)
32+ -
29-32 – Phillips, Heppell, Shiel, McDonald-Tipungwuti, Stewart
27-29 – Stringer, Hind, Kelly, Merrett
25-27 – Laverde, Wright, Langford, Weiderman, Parish, Snelling, Guelfi, Redman, Setterfield
23-25 – McGrath, Zert-Thatcher, Draper, Ridley
21-23 – Caldwell, Jones, Martin, Durham, Bryan, Cox, Reid
Under 21 – Perkins, D'Ambrosio, Hobbs, Wanganeen
Carlton (3)
32+ - Curnow
29-32 – Newman, Docherty
27-29 – Saad, Plowman, Williams, McGovern, Martin, Cripps, Acres, Hewett
25-27 – Pittonett, Durdin, Marchbank, C.Curnow, Owies, Cunningham, Kennedy, Weitering, Silvagni, McKay
23-25 – Fisher, Boyd, Young, Fogarty, De Koning, O'Brien, Cerra, Dow, Cottrell
21-23 – Walsh, Kemp, Honey
Under 21 – Durdin, Carroll, Motlop
Hawthorn (3)
32+ - Breust
29-32 – Wingard, Frost
27-29 – Sicily, Impey, Amon
25-27 – Hardwick, Green
23-25 – Bamble, Meek, Nash, Scrimshaw, Lynch, Lewis, Beeves, Morrison, Worpel, Jiath, Moore
21-23 – Koschitzke, Blanck, Stephens, Maginness, Day, Newcombe, Jeka, Morris
Under 21 – Grainger-Barras, Brockman, MacDonald, Butler, Ward
For me just looking at this list I am actually surprised at how healthy Port Adelaide's list looks going forward, and just how young Hawthorn's list is, really lacking in anyone over the age of 25.
I ended up voting for Geelong (yes I know they thumped us in the Grand Final), GWS, them having a lot of important players nearing retirement and West Coast who are not in a good position on the ladder to begin with and they are also a surprisingly old list with some very important players on the wrong side of 30. I almost voted for Hawthorn too as that is a really bad list profile but they didn't quite get my vote as I do like some of their younger players.
Also if I made any mistakes feel free to tell me as I will be happy to fix them.
This thread is about the older players of each club and how ready the players underneath them are ready to take over, and also importantly how many younger talented players are coming through their system as well.
So some ground rules here. I have ranked the teams based on how many players they have over the age of 29, as 29 is about the time that some players begin slowing down. I have also only picked players that have played a minimum of 5 games as at least there is enough body of work there to begin to discuss what those players could become.
Each person will have 3 selections for the 3 clubs that they think are about to enter a world of hurt.
Also for fun which clubs do you think are doing really well with their age profile (though obviously not in the poll)
Geelong (14)
32+ - Hawkins, Smith, Touhy, Dangerfield, Stanley, Ceglar
29-32 – Blicavas, Rohan, Duncan, Menegola, Guthrie, Stewart, Cameron, Bews
27-29 – Kolodjashnij, Atkins
25-27 – O'Connor, Bowes
23-25 – Parfitt, Simpson, Guthrie, Ratugolea, Close, Henry. Stengle, Miers
21-23 – De Koning
Under 21 – Bruhn. Henry, Holmes
Collingwood (10)
32+ - Pendlebury, Howe, Sidebottom, Cox
29-32 – Elliot, Mihocek, Mitchell, Hoskin-Elliott, Adams, Crisp
27-29 – McStay, Cameron, Moore, De Goey
25-27 – Markov, Maynard, Frampton, Noble, Wilson, Johnson
23-25 – Lipinski, J.Diacos, Kreuger, Carmichael, Murphy, Quaynor, Hill
21-23 – Bianco, McGreery, Ruscoe, Macrae
Under 21 – Ginnivan, McInnes, Diacos
Brisbane (10)
32+ - Zorko, Rich
29-32 – Gunston, Lyons, Lester, Neale, Adams, Fort, McCarthy, Daniher
27-29 – Cameron, McInerney, Gardiner
25-27 – McKenna, Cookatoo, Andrews, Dunkley, Mathieson, Joyce, Hipwood, Ah Chee, Berry, McLuggage
23-25 – Fullarton, Starcevich, Answerth, Bailey, Payne, Rayner, Madden
21-23 – Coleman, Prior, Robertson
Under 21 – Sharp
Western Bulldogs (10)
32+ - Jones
29-32 – Durya, Keath, Liberatore, Bruce, Johannisen, Lobb, Treloar, Crozier, Hannan
27-29 – O'Brien, Macrae, Scott, Bontempelli, McComb, McLean
25-27 – Daniel, Dale, Smith, Gardner, English, Williams, Sweet
23-25 – Baker, Vandermeer, Richards, Naughton
21-23 – Khamis, West, Smith, Weightman, Garcia, McNeill
Under 21 – Ugle-Hagan
Richmond (9)
32+ - Riewoldt, Tarrant, Cotchin
29-32 – Martin, Grimes, Pickett, Prestia, Lynch, Broad
27-29 – McIntosh, Vlastuin, Nankervis, Short
25-27 – Soldo, Castagna, Hopper, Rioli, Baker, Taranto, Graham
23-25 – Bolton, Miller, Balta
21-23 – Mansell, Ross, Cumberland, Dow, Ralphsmith
Under 21 – M.Rioli, Sonsie, Gibcus
Sydney (8)
32+ - Franklin, Rampe, Hickey
29-32 – Reid, Parker, Fox, Lloyd, Cunningham
27-29 –
25-27 – P.McCartin, Heeney, Papley, Melican, Mills, Clarke, Francis, Ladhams
23-25 – Florent, Hayward, McLean, Amartey, Wicks, T.McCartin, Blakey
21-23 – McInerney, Rowbottom, Stephens, Warner, Campbell
Under 21 – McDonald, Gulden
Gold Coast (8)
32+ - Casboult
29-32 – Day, Witts, Swallow, Ellis, Sexton, Stein, Anderson
27-29 – Collins, Atkins, Lemmens, Holman, Burgess, Miller, Weller, Blakely
25-27 – Farrar, Chol, Long, Fiorini, Macpherson, Ainsworth
23-25 – Constable, Ballard, Power
21-23 – Berry, King, Lukosius, Graham, Anderson, Budarick, Rosas, Rowell, Flanders, Sharp, Oea, Jeffrey
Under 21 – Davies, Hollands
GWS (8)
32+ - Ward, Keeffe, Davis
29-32 – Lloyd, Haynes, Kennedy, Greene, Coniglio
27-29 – Whittfield, Kelly, Hogan, Preuss
25-27 – Himmelberg, Flynn, Buckley
23-25 – Wehr, Cumming, Perryman, Daniels, Taylor, Briggs, Riccardi
21-23 – Bedford, O'Halloran, Idun, Brown, Peatling, Green, Ash
Under 21 – Stone, Callaghan
West Coast (8)
32+ - Hurn, Naitanui, Shuey
29-32 – McGovern, Cripps, Darling, Gaff, Yeo
27-29 – Kelly, Hunt, Sheed, Barrass
25-27 - Ryan, Duggan, Clark, Cole, Petrevski-Seton, Rotham
23-25 – Weterman, Witherden, Jones, Allen, Petruccelle, West, Foley
21-23 – Williams, Jamieson, O'Neill, H.Edwards, L.Edwards
Under 21 – Winder, Hough, Bazzo
Melbourne (7)
32+ - Hibberd
29-32 – Melksham, Gawn, May, T.McDonald, Brown, Tomlinson
27-29 – Viney, Grundy, Hunter, Dunstan, Salem, Harmes, Petracca, Neal-Bullen, Brayshaw, Langdon, Smith, Lever
25-27 – Fritsch, Oliver, Schache
23-25 – Petty, Spargo, Chandler
21-23 – Sparrow, Jordon, Pickett, Rivers
Under 21 – Bowey
Fremantle (7)
32+ - Walters
29-32 – Colyer, Fyfe, Wilson, Hamling, Taberner, O'Meara
27-29 – Hughes, Pearce, Aish, Ryan
25-27 – Corbett, Switkowski, Wagner, Schultz, Banfield
23-25 – Darcy, Cox, Brodie, Brayshaw
21-23 – Fredrick, Clark, Serong, Young, Henry, Jackson, Chapman
Under 21 – O'Drisoll, Treacy, Walker, Erasmus
St Kilda (6)
32+ -
29-32 – Campbell, Ross, Webster, Hill, Wood, Crouch
27-29 – Membrey, Sinclair, Jones, Billings, Marshall, Steel, Hayes, Wilkie
25-27 – Howard, McKenzie, Butler, Cordy, Gresham, Highmore
23-25 – Battle, Paton, Higgins, Clark, Coffield, Stocker, Bytel
21-23 – King, Sharman, Byrnes, Connolly
Under 21 – Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Owens
Port Adelaide (5)
32+ - Boak, Dixon, Jonas
29-32 – McKenzie, Lycett
27-29 – Clurey, Aliir, Wines, Rioli, Dumont, Fantasia, Bryne-Jones, Finalyson
25-27 – Burton, Bonner, Houston, Powell-Pepper
23-25 – Drew, Marshall, Farrell, Hayes, Rozee
21-23 – Duursma, Butters, McEntee, Evans, Georgiades, Mead, Bergman
Under 21 – Jones, Horne-Francis, Burgoyne
North Melbourne (6)
32+ - Goldstein, Hall, ziebell
29-32 – Shiels, Cunnington, Greenwood
27-29 – Corr, McDonald, Howe, Turner
25-27 – Tucker, McKay, Simpkin
23-25 – Logue, Zurhaar, Larkey, Stephenson, Bonar, Xerri, Young, Davies-Uniacke, Coleman-Jones
21-23 – Thomas, Taylor, Scott, Perez, Mahoney, Spicer, Powell
Under 21 – Lazzaro, Phillips, Ford, Curtis
Adelaide (5)
32+ - Sloane, Walker
29-32 – Smith, Seedsman, Laird
27-29 – Crouch, McAdam, O'Brien, Strachan
25-27 – Keays, Doedee, Dawson, Milera
23-25 – Himmelberg, Hinge, Murphy, McPherson, Fogarty, Brown, Butts, Jones, Sholl
21-23 – Keane, Rankine, McHenry, Hately, Hamill, Murphy, Schoenberg, Worrell, Gollant, Berry, Pamell
Under 21 – Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Cook, Soligo, Rachele
Essendon (5)
32+ -
29-32 – Phillips, Heppell, Shiel, McDonald-Tipungwuti, Stewart
27-29 – Stringer, Hind, Kelly, Merrett
25-27 – Laverde, Wright, Langford, Weiderman, Parish, Snelling, Guelfi, Redman, Setterfield
23-25 – McGrath, Zert-Thatcher, Draper, Ridley
21-23 – Caldwell, Jones, Martin, Durham, Bryan, Cox, Reid
Under 21 – Perkins, D'Ambrosio, Hobbs, Wanganeen
Carlton (3)
32+ - Curnow
29-32 – Newman, Docherty
27-29 – Saad, Plowman, Williams, McGovern, Martin, Cripps, Acres, Hewett
25-27 – Pittonett, Durdin, Marchbank, C.Curnow, Owies, Cunningham, Kennedy, Weitering, Silvagni, McKay
23-25 – Fisher, Boyd, Young, Fogarty, De Koning, O'Brien, Cerra, Dow, Cottrell
21-23 – Walsh, Kemp, Honey
Under 21 – Durdin, Carroll, Motlop
Hawthorn (3)
32+ - Breust
29-32 – Wingard, Frost
27-29 – Sicily, Impey, Amon
25-27 – Hardwick, Green
23-25 – Bamble, Meek, Nash, Scrimshaw, Lynch, Lewis, Beeves, Morrison, Worpel, Jiath, Moore
21-23 – Koschitzke, Blanck, Stephens, Maginness, Day, Newcombe, Jeka, Morris
Under 21 – Grainger-Barras, Brockman, MacDonald, Butler, Ward
For me just looking at this list I am actually surprised at how healthy Port Adelaide's list looks going forward, and just how young Hawthorn's list is, really lacking in anyone over the age of 25.
I ended up voting for Geelong (yes I know they thumped us in the Grand Final), GWS, them having a lot of important players nearing retirement and West Coast who are not in a good position on the ladder to begin with and they are also a surprisingly old list with some very important players on the wrong side of 30. I almost voted for Hawthorn too as that is a really bad list profile but they didn't quite get my vote as I do like some of their younger players.
Also if I made any mistakes feel free to tell me as I will be happy to fix them.
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