Who'd win?
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60kgs and never contested yet alone won a race past 2400m, i just reckon that weight was utterly bizarre and went against everything the handicappers have shown us over the past 15yrs with the melb cup now being a quality handicap and not a true handicap. Either the handicappers rated Northerly an absolute freak superstar once in a generation horse, or they had multiples going into media puzzle.
sad thing too is Northerly was a scrawny looking thing, like a galloping skeleton. I doubt he could've carried a weight like that and won even though i realise you should never write off a champion with a heart like his.
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This is mostly an anti-diva board so it’s not really surprising the discussion went down this road.
In reply to those who quoted me, i’d just be repeating what i said about weights and comparisons to other smaller average Cox Plate fields.
If you wanted to be serious about it and knew anything about racing why make it WFA? WFA is outdated and a bit of a farce.
Surely you'd make it set weights which is obviously the only pure form of racing.
Just to be fair I would make an exception here and give the Diva a penalty maybe 3-4kg just to make it interesting. Carrying big weights doesn’t phase her in the slightest, so it would make no difference maybe reduce the winning margin a little.
She outdoes them on every level - strength, speed, power, heart, stamina - it's all stacked in her favour.
In reply to those who quoted me, i’d just be repeating what i said about weights and comparisons to other smaller average Cox Plate fields.
If you wanted to be serious about it and knew anything about racing why make it WFA? WFA is outdated and a bit of a farce.
Surely you'd make it set weights which is obviously the only pure form of racing.
Just to be fair I would make an exception here and give the Diva a penalty maybe 3-4kg just to make it interesting. Carrying big weights doesn’t phase her in the slightest, so it would make no difference maybe reduce the winning margin a little.
She outdoes them on every level - strength, speed, power, heart, stamina - it's all stacked in her favour.
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Others worthy of a mention Rubiton, Saintly & Naturalism.
Would Super have even have won his Cox Plate if......... I seriously doubt it.
Vo would certainly have given them plenty to chase & was a freak of horse that really defied logic. Unfortunately I doubt there will be another like him at this level. Trainers would be lynched for even trying such tactics, for fear of failure, let alone destroying the horse. Super was still just learning though when Freedman was avoiding Vo, to be fair.
If forced to make a choice I would go with BLU. He just always got there, rarely by a margin by just managed to stick his head out when it mattered. The sign of a champion IMO.
Would Super have even have won his Cox Plate if......... I seriously doubt it.
Vo would certainly have given them plenty to chase & was a freak of horse that really defied logic. Unfortunately I doubt there will be another like him at this level. Trainers would be lynched for even trying such tactics, for fear of failure, let alone destroying the horse. Super was still just learning though when Freedman was avoiding Vo, to be fair.
If forced to make a choice I would go with BLU. He just always got there, rarely by a margin by just managed to stick his head out when it mattered. The sign of a champion IMO.
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Youre spot on seth. WFA a farce? Thats got to be about the most ignorant comment Ive ever heard. WFA isnt just one way but its the ONLY way to compare horses ability. What a silly silly comment made by someone who clearly knows very little about the sport.
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You’ve got absolutely no idea if you really believe that.
WFA racing is an outdated handicap format from the 1800’s based on sex/age/distance/month
Set weight racing is a flawless straight up contest, there’s no handicap.
That would be the ONLY logical way to settle a race like this.
WFA racing is an outdated handicap format from the 1800’s based on sex/age/distance/month
Set weight racing is a flawless straight up contest, there’s no handicap.
That would be the ONLY logical way to settle a race like this.
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Ive got no idea? lol Youre the one suggesting handicap racing is the pinicle of the sport. Get a clue champ. WFA racing has stood the test of time. A basic racing education course would do you the world of good Id suggest.
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I feel sillier for replying but here goes. WFA has stood the test of time and is the true gauge of class. I can adapt an old saying for- Better to have people think you've got no clue about racing than to put up posts like that and remove all doubt.
