Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

[Kurve]

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On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Have you come across many hunters using 12g on deer? I have to admit I haven’t but I’ve not done it for a long time

No it's not common at all.
Helicopter culling yes, and possibly on private property for pest control, but for the average "hunter" hunting legally, nah it's pretty rare.

Getting inside of 50 m consistently on a Sambar is ridiculously hard, and anyone that can do that would probably take up hunting with a bow as to them using any firearm would be considered cheating.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I don't think Hill stole off Lynn, it's the other way around. Lynn had either stolen, or was busted trying to steal the drone.

I meant he grabbed it when Hill brought it down and hung onto it.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Agree, absolutely no reason for the prosecution to contest that Hill died by knife. If they had any proof otherwise, it would catch Lynn out on a big lie and see him convicted.

I think Lynn probably killed him with a knife and Hill died first as the prosecution suggests, that he then hunted Clay down and shot her.

The introduction of the knife theory is Lynn’s invention to deflect attention from the gun IMO. Which makes me think they were both definitely shot.

 

[MrsBlueSky]

We seem to be trying to outdo you folk in the East. First reports are that three people were shot dead this avo in Perth.

 

[Kurve]

The introduction of the knife theory is Lynn’s invention to deflect attention from the gun IMO. Which makes me think they were both definitely shot.

It could be but there's zero evidence of it and if Hill was shot at his campsite, I think forensics would have found something. They found the bullet that killed Clay.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

It could be but there's zero evidence of it and if Hill was shot at his campsite, I think forensics would have found something. They found the bullet that killed Clay.

No evidence of a knife either. He did a good job destroying evidence.

 

[Kurve]

Was he ever in the airforce?

Lynn trained with the RAAF but decided to leave when he was not selected in the alpha stream to be an elite pilot flying fighter jets.

Loner, pilot, barbecue-lover - mystery swirls around accused killer

The detectives who spoke to Greg Lynn about missing campers Carol Clay and Russell Hill last month had never met him, but they had already built a psychological profile of the suspect.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Kurve]

No evidence of a knife either. He did a good job destroying evidence.

No evidence Hill touched his gun either.

 

[Kurve]

Was he ever in the airforce?

Post 9/11 when planes were hijacked with box cutters and they got in to the cockpits, I'd think there might have been some extra pilot training.

 

[jason_recliner]

If we are to believe Lynn...

We have much, much less than zero reason to believe Lynn. He has had years to concoct the most self-serving web of lies he can, and that's what he's done IMO.

 

[Awakening]

No it's not common at all.
Helicopter culling yes, and possibly on private property for pest control, but for the average "hunter" hunting legally, nah it's pretty rare.

Getting inside of 50 m consistently on a Sambar is ridiculously hard, and anyone that can do that would probably take up hunting with a bow as to them using any firearm would be considered cheating.

Is bow hunting legal all year round? Do you need a permit?

 

[josephine666]

Exactly. Hill and Clay died from a violent act and Lynn has admitted being involved but only after being caught. Lynn claims both deaths were accidental but if that was the case, why would you obliterate every bit of evidence that could support that claim?

If you were involved in a tragic accident, I can understand panicking and destroying any evidence that YOU were in the vicinity, before getting the hell out of there, but the ONLY reason to go to the extremes of destroying the ''accident" site and removing, then obliterating, the bodies (repeatedly) would be that the site and the bodies would tell a very different story. His actions post the couples death is very compelling evidence there was no accident.

 

[Sir_Loin]

We have much, much less than zero reason to believe Lynn. He has had years to concoct the most self-serving web of lies he can, and that's what he's done IMO.

Agree 100% it’s a total crock of shit allegedly

 

[Kurve]

Article this afternoon.

Prosecutors allege Mr Hill was killed first, likely after a dispute with Mr Lynn over the former’s drone, and Ms Clay was shot dead second as a witness.

They suggested neither posed any threat to Mr Lynn.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/greg-lynn-trial-photos-show-charred-remains-of-russell-hill-and-carol-clays-campsite/news-story/4c3b138cdb322938e21bc87ed72a719f

 

[Dirh Semaj]

The introduction of the knife theory is Lynn’s invention to deflect attention from the gun IMO. Which makes me think they were both definitely shot.

Nope, that's too hard to invent when you don't know what the Police have on you, in my opinion.

 

[FranklinBluth]

Nobody asked and nobody cares but ever since the pandemic I rarely wear bras. Just couldn’t get used to them again.

What does this add to the chat? Absolutely nothing.

I wear underwire bras at work, but sports bras (underwire -free) the rest of the time. Even at night! Because I am old, and they feel comfortable.
I think if the only underwires found are in the campsite burns, and neither of the burial sites, that does suggest Clay had settled in for the night... Does make me lean towards ambush.

 

[FranklinBluth]

Exactly. Hill and Clay died from a violent act and Lynn has admitted being involved but only after being caught. Lynn claims both deaths were accidental but if that was the case, why would you obliterate every bit of evidence that could support that claim?

If you were involved in a tragic accident, I can understand panicking and destroying any evidence that YOU were in the vicinity, before getting the hell out of there, but the ONLY reason to go to the extremes of destroying the ''accident" site and removing, then obliterating, the bodies (repeatedly) would be that the site and the bodies would tell a very different story. His actions post the couples death is very compelling evidence there was no accident.

Completely agree with you.
The incident happened in March, he returned to continue to destroy evidence in November, I believe. Can you imagine the state of the bodies after that time? He was hiding much worse than 'two accidental deaths' IMO

 

[Kurve]

A phone was found in behind the centre console of the Ute.

Do you know whose phone it was?

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Is bow hunting legal all year round? Do you need a permit?

In Victoria there are practically no restrictions on bow hunting, apart from needing a game licence, which is fee based, and gives access to all state forests year round and some National Parks between mid February to mid December.

 

[revo333]

GL burrying their bodies would give that away wouldnt it?

'But did they really die?'

 

[revo333]

Genuinely this case has so much pointless chat in the court room. There is basically zero evidence and he has admitted to a reasonable time line. Nothing really matters besides do you believe him or not..

Here as well..

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Nope, that's too hard to invent when you don't know what the Police have on you, in my opinion.

Two people shot is hard to explain away as an accident. Hill didn’t own a gun but could quite possibly have a had a knife, much easier to introduce into the narrative to complicate it. IMO

 

[Pamcake1]

IMO;
This week the prosecution in detailing, how thoroughly GL covered up all evidence via burning and what little was left to discern what actually happened, is directing the jury to consider the acts taken.
The so called 'choices' of GL.
Even though this evidence is uncontested by the defence, this tactic is putting to the forefront the reasonability of the actions taken.
There is an emphasis here by the prosecution I believe, of 'is this all normal and logical or even rational' in the choices made or does it show manifest culpability.

I am now very interested to know how the defence will actually justify these 'choices' of GL's victimhood of the circumstances.
What definitively and logically can absolve someone for not reporting two 'accidental' deaths?
Someone who by all standards in their professional occupation, is required to be logical, responsable and respectful of authority.

 

[jason_recliner]

Two people shot is hard to explain away as an accident. Hill didn’t own a gun but could quite possibly have a had a knife, much easier to introduce into the narrative to complicate it. IMO

Yep.

 

[jason_recliner]

IMO;
This week the prosecution in detailing, how thoroughly GL covered up all evidence via burning and what little was left to discern what actually happened, is directing the jury to consider the acts taken.
The so called 'choices' of GL.
Even though this evidence is uncontested by the defence, this tactic is putting to the forefront the reasonability of the actions taken.
There is an emphasis here by the prosecution I believe, of 'is this all normal and logical or even rational' in the choices made or does it show manifest culpability.

I am now very interested to know how the defence will actually justify these 'choices' of GL's victimhood of the circumstances.
What definitively and logically can absolve someone for not reporting two 'accidental' deaths?
Someone who by all standards in their professional occupation, is required to be logical, responsable and respectful of authority.

Absolutely. Is it reasonable to destroy all evidence of two accidental deaths, the only evidence that could ever prove your innocence if required?


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