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[stretcharmstrong]

Completely disagree.

The Gold Coast had never had their way with any team before us. They barely knew how to win, kept trying to lose it for themselves by giving it up.

The only person at fault for the fact that GC had any chance of belting the stuffing out of us in 2013 is Mark Neeld.

The ONLY person?

 

[Captain Jack]

Can we stop talking about how the side was less experienced than the GC? They showed no effort or application at all. Irrelevant of how many games we've played, we should have still won the game even if they averaged 20 more games per player than us.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Why? Gold Coast are a much more talented team then us - couple that with the fact that they had at least equal experience to us and it points to the fact that we should have lost, regardless of effort.

It's not an excuse after the fact, I tipped GC this week by 4 goals for those exact reasons.

We shouldn't have lost by 10 goals, that's where the lack of effort comes in.

 

[deeman87]

Talent and inexperience aside, when Neeld came here his main mantra was getting us to play hard. Clearly our pathetic list won't play for him, what more evidence do you need that they aren't playing hard for him??? People say what will we gain by sacking him but what do we gain by keeping him here? He's made a number of terrible list changes and his gameplan and gameday nous are non-existant. Just get rid of him asap, doesn't have to be this week but line someone up like Mark Williams, Rodney Eade, or even an assistant somewhere else like a Scott Burns. Mark Neeld is as bad or worse than Bailey and we have gone so far backwards under him that the team is completely unwatchable.

 

[Captain Jack]

Why? Gold Coast are a much more talented team then us - couple that with the fact that they had at least equal experience to us and it points to the fact that we should have lost, regardless of effort.

It's not an excuse after the fact, I tipped GC this week by 4 goals for those exact reasons.

We shouldn't have lost by 10 goals, that's where the lack of effort comes in.

No, it SHOULDN'T be an excuse, but Neeld has wheeled out the "games experience" line every week this year, including when we beat the Giants. It seems like he thinks it's the only way to win games. Our list is incredibly inexperienced but it's time to stop using that as a fallback for poor performance, and start demanding effort and intensity no matter how many games the opponent has played.

 

[SuburbanMe]

I voted no.

He needs time. On top of that, we'll have a few pissed off players if it happens, and will be certain to lose players come seasons end. If the fans and club can't firmly stand by the coach then how the hell do we expect to win games? Every coach that comes in will delist players which will unsettle the list even more.

Bad idea guys, lets get around neeldy and show some solidarity.

 

[ramastar]

I voted no.

He needs time. On top of that, we'll have a few pissed off players if it happens, and will be certain to lose players come seasons end. If the fans and club can't firmly stand by the coach then how the hell do we expect to win games? Every coach that comes in will delist players which will unsettle the list even more.

Bad idea guys, lets get around neeldy and show some solidarity.

I'm not being narky here, but how long is enough time? He's had 18 months now, and we are getting worse under him, not better. How much more time should Neeld be given?

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

I'm not being narky here, but how long is enough time? He's had 18 months now, and we are getting worse under him, not better. How much more time should Neeld be given?

Agreed. And it would be one thing if the players were giving it everything but being let down by 'inexperience', poor skills or just needing time for the 'game plan to gel'. Then you'd be prepared to give him time to get some games into kids or work on skills or the gameplan. While the problem is actually that the majority of the players struggle to bring even the minimum effort and intensity to the game, and that is getting worse, then there is no future.

 

[Major Colvin]

We have already given him enough leeway, as we did with Bailey. You think clubs like Collingwood or Essendon would tolerate a coach like this? Coaches have been sacked for a lot, lot less. Our club is in crisis and as much as sacking him now won't achieve any immediate upside, it may it at least stem the rapidly spiralling downside. The Board cannot be seen to be tolerating these performances.

 

[SuburbanMe]

I'm not being narky here, but how long is enough time? He's had 18 months now, and we are getting worse under him, not better. How much more time should Neeld be given?

Exactly! 18 months and in that time he's recruited 14 players to the club. New coach, new players, new game plan, new CEO, and everything else that the club has gone through in that time. If you seriously think that a team can go through what we have in 18 months and still develop a mostly in tried side, sorry guys but you're deluded.


STOP READING THE PAPER, STOP WATCHING THE CRAP DISHED OUT ON FOOTY TV, then things will become easier on you.
Dimma had it hard for 4yrs, it's only been 18 months.

 

[SuburbanMe]

We have already given him enough leeway, as we did with Bailey. You think clubs like Collingwood or Essendon would tolerate a coach like this? Coaches have been sacked for a lot, lot less. Our club is in crisis and as much as sacking him now won't achieve any immediate upside, it may it at least stem the rapidly spiralling downside. The Board cannot be seen to be tolerating these performances.

Umm the pies went many years with malthouse and achieved nothing. So yes, yes I do think collingwood would hang in there.

 

[Blackas87]

Umm the pies went many years with malthouse and achieved nothing. So yes, yes I do think collingwood would hang in there.

Malthouse took over Colllingwood as wooden spooners and took them to a 50% record in his second year and two Grand finals in his 3rd and 4th

Neeld took over a young promising list that had won 16 games and drew 2 of them over the previous 2 seasons and turned them into a team that can only luckily beat 1 expansion side in his second year

 

[SuburbanMe]

And how many players did mick get rid of and how many left after the first year of coaching? I'm as pissed at our situation as the next guy, but sacking a coach 18 months into his tenure with all the changes that have happened, is down right stupid. If you want to know why we're so bad, perhaps is because of the fact that if we don't see immediate improvement, we call for the coaches head.

 

[Crusty Demon]

No. But he is dead in the water.

I can't see the point in sacking him before seasons end. The only reason would be because another team(Brisbane/West Coast) sacks a coach and is on the lookout.

The players simply aren't playing for him. Too many easy possessions, too many easy goals. When you come out and make a statement about wanting to be the hardest team to play against, then you better back it up at some stage. We are quite possibly, the easiest team to have ever played against! It's all about effort and wanting to try. Besides Matt Jones and Viney(apologies to maybe Gawn, Nath Jones and Garland) I don't see anyone really putting in 100%. So the coach simply isn't getting through to the playing group.

I know this list is a shocker, but there is no excuses for lack of effort, and that's what this team is producing. I said to a mate when the boys were doing there warm ups, there was no spark, no energy in the group whatsoever. And when the team is devoid of leadership and any idea of a gameplan, then there is no hope. If there is no hope, then the coach must go and then some of the list, no doubt. But wait until seasons end. Results won't miraculously change due to a sacked coach.

 

[Blackas87]

And how many players did mick get rid of and how many left after the first year of coaching? I'm as pissed at our situation as the next guy, but sacking a coach 18 months into his tenure with all the changes that have happened, is down right stupid. If you want to know why we're so bad, perhaps is because of the fact that if we don't see immediate improvement, we call for the coaches head.

It's not that we haven't seen immediate improvement, it's how far backwards we've gone, it's hard to believe that we are even worse than last year. The coaches all said during the pre season we are now training at an elite level, they were all excited about the season ahead and going to see big improvement. What happened after the port game, Neeld says he didn't see it coming and we'll never play like that again, one week later Neeld says he didn't see it coming again. The actual coaches believe what we had done over the season was putting us on the right track and we would come out and perform. Well they were massively wrong, they themselves thought we were going to be ok, if they think we were on the right track then they aren't the right people to be in charge

 

[SabreOfParadise]

I've always been wary of coaches who try to fit players into the system rather than fitting the system around the players. Marky Mark obviously had grand plans for the playing list, but he's been proven not to be the man manager or motivator he thought is/was. Everything he's touched has turned to ash! I'm sure he's learned a lot in his 18 months and so have we all - that it is actually possible to get worse after 186.
I don't wish the guy any ill, but he's walk has not matched his talk. I think it was right to bring in a disciplinarian, but he's too callow and inexperienced and his platitudes are empty. Either he never had the ear of the players or he lost it a long time ago.
Those 8.5 win seasons under Bailey look positively rosy right now.

 

[LeverPuller]

Damien Drum, Peter Rohde.

Neeld's W-L is worse than both.

 

[butters88]

Starring Kevin Costner as the returning James McDonald and Adam Sandler as the outgoing coach that no one likes.

Nah, billy bob thorton as the outgoing coach, adam sandler could be the recently sacked ceo... And tom cruise would play either how or gawn.

But more on topic i'd say no at the moment and yes come seasons end, baring a MAJOR turn around which would have to include beating a top 6 side and finishing with a % over 100

 

[Crimson Azure]

I honestly don't know what to do.

But really I think he should get until the end of the year, whats the point of pulling the trigger now. If they club has its mind made up by round 15 then start looking then & unless we have a miracle finish to the season he can go then.

 

[Obbie]

I voted no.
Give Peter Jackson some time to work out the internal working of the club. Jackson is the bloke the AFL wanted at Melbourne. Let him work it out.

All I know is my Red and Blue heart is flaming hurting watching how poor our team is this year.

 

[CWaffles]

Not yet, I suggest he gets until half way through the season....If nothing has changed then its time to go. And McLardy can go with him, I have faith Peter Jackson is going to go through this club with a fine tooth comb and out the dead wood.

 

[stretcharmstrong]

It's not that we haven't seen immediate improvement, it's how far backwards we've gone, it's hard to believe that we are even worse than last year. The coaches all said during the pre season we are now training at an elite level, they were all excited about the season ahead and going to see big improvement. What happened after the port game, Neeld says he didn't see it coming and we'll never play like that again, one week later Neeld says he didn't see it coming again. The actual coaches believe what we had done over the season was putting us on the right track and we would come out and perform. Well they were massively wrong, they themselves thought we were going to be ok, if they think we were on the right track then they aren't the right people to be in charge

This is the most sensible "sack Neeld" post I've seen.... has got me thinking. Because it was very obvious from the way they were speaking preseason that the coaches really thought we were going to see improvement this year. For them to have been so wrong about thier own core job is a big concern.

 

[CowboyFromHell]

Article in the Hun saying that Peter Jackson has told Neeld to get on with the job as we have bigger problems within the football department right now that need to be looked at first. Schwarz goes on to say we are looking like the next Fitzroy at this rate. He isn't far wrong really.

 

[Tulip]

Article in the Hun saying that Peter Jackson has told Neeld to get on with the job as we have bigger problems within the football department right now that need to be looked at first. Schwarz goes on to say we are looking like the next Fitzroy at this rate. He isn't far wrong really.

I hope Jackson is right, but knowing Melbourne employees he'll be completely wrong.

 

[CowboyFromHell]

I hope Jackson is right, but knowing Melbourne employees he'll be completely wrong.

I think he is actually doing what most in this thread have wanted to happen - Neeld stays on and Jackson goes through the club before anything major like that happens. Looks like heads will roll in the FD like Harrington before they get to Neeld.