You'll never guess what the 2021 free kick differential chart looks like

[adogsfan5]

Every team has them, but the Dogs have more of them and the Dogs very clearly use winning free kicks by not contesting the ball first and foremost as a strategy far more than any other team.

The thing that is really telling with Weightman and Hunter especially, is not so much the frees they get as the ones they DON'T get. They run through the whole motion/mechanics of the appealing for the free play as it were, look to the umpire with an Oliver Twistesque pleading expression, and if it isn't paid, they just continue on with the play.

There's no remonstration or bailing the umpire up, it is ah well, that one didn't work. When it DOES work, both of those have a rather queasy little smirk they drop.

Huh? We get free kicks by not contesting the ball? We have the ball in our hands.. doesn’t that mean we’ve contested the ball?

 

[faible]

“Knows people who work in AFL circles”.
Fat chance.

Why not? There's a shitload of people who work in AFL circles. Not a surprise they know other humans.

I personally know 'people who work in AFL circles' too. Or who have worked. One of which worked at the Bulldogs even.

 

[faible]

We have the ball in our hands

Well that happens when the umpire hands the ball back, yes.

 

[adogsfan5]

Well that happens when the umpire hands the ball back, yes.

Lol I did chuckle at this. Sorry I really can’t be bothered getting into another biff with another poster.

 

[Veer Right]

I would think the people pointing to one outlier as proof of whatever conspiracy they want to decide on would be the ones misunderstanding statistical probability. If I flip a coin 100 times in a row and it lands on heads 100 times, it doesn’t make it anymore probable that on the 101st flip that it will land on heads. Free Kicks (as well as missed free kicks, of which there is no reliable measure of) are also not random events that occur in isolation and are meant to be distributed in any even way, given the literally 100s of factors that could come into the decision making process to decide to pay a free kick. Anybody trying to claim a positive FK differential proves any sort of point is simply misrepresenting noisy data


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Applies to cards, dice and roulette sure but not to AFL. Free kicks are a judgement call, nothing to do with chance. Shit post.

Dogs are carried by the AFL, softest draw out of the eight finals teams from last year, free ride with the umpires and i know why. When you dropped the Footscray name and call yourselves Western you now represent Western Vic. Example, games at Ballarat. We know how the AFL loves to prop up basket cases representing a large area.

Case closed.

Now go buy your mates (umpires) a beer. They have worked tirelessly for you all year.

 

[Elixuh]

It’s a tactic for anyone who does it.

 

[adogsfan5]

Oh na sorry you’re right. Some players who flop and drop the knees, do it by accident. Joe’s dive this year was accidental, no tactic behind it to get a free kick.

 

[Mr Magic]

All bets are off.

Everybody is watching the umpires next weekend

 

[demondavey]

Applies to cards, dice and roulette sure but not to AFL. Free kicks are a judgement call, nothing to do with chance. sh*t post.

Dogs are carried by the AFL, softest draw out of the eight finals teams from last year, free ride with the umpires and i know why. When you dropped the Footscray name and call yourselves Western you now represent Western Vic. Example, games at Ballarat. We know how the AFL loves to prop up basket cases representing a large area.

Case closed.

Now go buy your mates (umpires) a beer. They have worked tirelessly for you all year.

It makes sense for the AFL to have the Bulldogs succeed. As you say, they represent the West. It’s a huge part of Victoria that has significant growth capability and potential. A successful Western Bulldogs is a big money spinner for them and the AFL. The more they succeed, the better it is for the game.

 

[faible]

Lol I did chuckle at this.

Hit that like button then. Give me those sweet, sweet BigFooty rep points.

 

[demondavey]

Why not? There's a shitload of people who work in AFL circles. Not a surprise they know other humans.

I personally know 'people who work in AFL circles' too. Or who have worked. One of which worked at the Bulldogs even.

And what was that person’s take on the current situation in discussion here?

 

[Mr Magic]

And what was that person’s take on the current situation in discussion here?

I would be worried if I was Melbourne. Once the umpires get locked and loaded behind the Bulldogs they can be a immovable force. Look at 2016!!

 

[faible]

And what was that person’s take on the current situation in discussion here?

Why would I ask someone that?

 

[adogsfan5]

It makes sense for the AFL to have the Bulldogs succeed. As you say, they represent the West. It’s a huge part of Victoria that has significant growth capability and potential. A successful Western Bulldogs is a big money spinner for them and the AFL. The more they succeed, the better it is for the game.

Better start giving out more frees to the Suns then. Finished the year -17. Need footy in QLD to succeed ASAP. Start flopping Touk.

 

[Del191229]

Others will say that Lindsay Thomas has been our worst ever offender for this type of rubbish, but Andrew Swallow was far worse back in the day. Looked for a free in just about every single contest he ever went into....falling forward when tackled was his specialty. I've hated it in our players just as much as I hate in others and it really does lessen your enjoyment of the game, which is sad.

Yep, after his lost a yard post Achilles it became a real thing.

 

[demondavey]

Better start giving out more frees to the Suns then. Finished the year -17. Need footy in QLD to succeed ASAP. Start flopping Touk.

It’s pretty obvious that GC are a basket case and no amount of favouritism will help them. They get a fairly significant financial bail out.

 

[demondavey]

Why would I ask someone that?

Who knows, maybe you’re a person that asks things like that.

 

[Gavin Excell]

All bets are off.

Everybody is watching the umpires next weekend

It's interesting when these things blow up, whether there's an over correction the following week

 

[thedank]

Either the AFL is involved in some kind of scandal/corruption (tinfoil hats) or there is a directive from the top down at Footscray FC to duck/flop/dive/play for free kicks. Both possibilities are a blight on the game and deserve a proper focus rather than the deflection and whataboutism displayed by doggies fans on here

 

[faible]

Who knows, maybe you’re a person that asks things like that.

Can confirm; do not hassle people I know that work in the AFL industry, with AFL related questions.

 

[Del191229]

Huh? We get free kicks by not contesting the ball? We have the ball in our hands.. doesn’t that mean we’ve contested the ball?

Yes.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Bulldogs definitely get looked after by the umps they also get away with a lot more than most sides

 

[MickyG]

I would think the people pointing to one outlier as proof of whatever conspiracy they want to decide on would be the ones misunderstanding statistical probability. If I flip a coin 100 times in a row and it lands on heads 100 times, it doesn’t make it anymore probable that on the 101st flip that it will land on heads. Free Kicks (as well as missed free kicks, of which there is no reliable measure of) are also not random events that occur in isolation and are meant to be distributed in any even way, given the literally 100s of factors that could come into the decision making process to decide to pay a free kick. Anybody trying to claim a positive FK differential proves any sort of point is simply misrepresenting noisy data


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In the 2016 Grand Final, in two and a half quarters the Bulldogs got 15 free kicks while the Swans got 1. Not random.

Chair of the AFL Commission yelled at the Swans Chair, you won't win a flag while Buddy plays for you. Are you starting to get suspicious?

Umpires rarely determine outcomes to games. In 2016 they helped the Bulldogs win two home and away games they wouldn't have with fair umpiring. They wouldn't have made finals without those wins. See the comments by Hawthorn and GWS supporters about the other finals that year. They were such a great team they missed finals in 2017 and 2018. Maybe someone can check if that was random?

 

[adogsfan5]

Yes.

Care to explain that one genius?

 

[MickyG]

Free kick Bulldogs: