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Actually to be fair science doesn't convict them, a jury of twelve good men and true do.
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Actually to be fair science doesn't convict them, a jury of twelve good men and true do.
Here's a tip for you little graham ..... Science does not convict people.
It may be used as a tool in gathering evidence but science does not convict..........Juries do. You do know that, don't you?
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Not all in all cases. Sometimes its a judge or a number of judges. Many times they freely admit the guilty verdict is a result of scientific evidence. That there would be no guilty verdict without the 'science'. Only for to come out later, the guilty party was innocent.
If someone proves to me science scientifically, then I'll quite happily answer that little ignorant turds question
Anyway, little graham I'm still interested in the answer and didn't come here to pot you.
How was what you brought forward, proven?
I've been interested in the after-life, along with all manner of things that aren't readily explainable for years now, and wouldn't discount ghosts or any other phenomena we don't understand as being outright bullshit (although a man-made god does stretch the boundaries a bit)
Little turd, you say
Please read back your posts and explain your stream of logic....or the lack of it.
How was what you brought forward, proven?
I've been interested in the after-life, along with all manner of things that aren't readily explainable for years now, and wouldn't discount ghosts or any other phenomena we don't understand as being outright bullshit (although a man-made god does stretch the boundaries a bit)
Little turd, you say
Please read back your posts and explain your stream of logic....or the lack of it.
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What do you expect, you come in here when people are discussing rather sensitive topics dictating to us something you just do not understand. Someone has filled your head full of lies about science. Until you acknowledge the failings of science, noone can prove to you anything you don't want to know.Little turd, you say
If you were really wanting to shown scientifically the phenomena mentioned, it can be done. In fact if you read the first post, I already did. I shared centuries of peer reviewed studies. I don't know any other studies, conducted over such a long time, that the 'truth' has remained as constant as it has.
Not sure why I'm indulging, but..................
I've posted in here beforehand...........see post #77, so didn't come here to shoot anyone down.
You claim something as proven and I was interested in how this proof was derived.
In the meantime you won't put forward what you have claimed and just want to rag-doll me because I think science may be a good vehicle in proving all kinds of phenomena we don't understand.....and then you go on to say some strange things like............."prove science" .....................seriously?
One shouldn't get too hung up on their beliefs whatever they may be and I thought this thread was about discussing events rather announcing any truths.
Adelaide Gaol tour was weird.
This one cell , made me feel cold (it was like 30 degrees at the time) , my arms had goose bumps and my hairs stood up at the back of my neck. I could hear this object drop in the cell something like a plastic cup and I heard this very faint sound "help me" , I guess it could of been the cell/s were they got kept before they got executed I have no idea. scared the shit out of me
This one cell , made me feel cold (it was like 30 degrees at the time) , my arms had goose bumps and my hairs stood up at the back of my neck. I could hear this object drop in the cell something like a plastic cup and I heard this very faint sound "help me" , I guess it could of been the cell/s were they got kept before they got executed I have no idea. scared the shit out of me
well it depends. it could just be a trick of the mind, particularly if its just a glimpse or just a dash out of corner of your eye. It happens to everyone, you see something or someone or at-least you think you do, its just a split second. once past you forget it and move on. for some people it happens quite often others may only experience it once or twice that they can recall. I see no reason why we should place extra focus on such instances when someone see's a person thats died. when we dismiss such events when it's someone we know is alive.
but those are visual and nothing else other things occurring with it are, unexplained.
My family house went through a phase for almost 4 years (unsure if i've mentioned this in this thread before) noises sounding like footsteps moving up the hall early in the morning and always up the hall, pictures falling, even a vase falling off a table when the table didn't move and the vase had been their for years. Light's flickering and birds would fly into the window above the sink with alarming frequency (one every 1 month or so, sometimes more)
but only the vase is unexplainable. the footsteps always moved in the same direction and early hours of the morning where we lived are prone to sudden temperature drops, Pictures falling? our family house has been shifting for years pictures were old thus they fall. lights are simply the house is 50 years old and so is the wiring. plus our area was prone to brown outs. birds, fly into windows all the time, Our kitchen windows are the only ones (that aren't frosted) that face north getting a larger proportion of direct sun and thus more reflections.
But the vase i have no explanation. Myself and my mum were the closest that old coffee table is nearly around 10Kg's it's old and heavy as shit it doesn't just "move" and yet a bloody expensive crystal vase ended up a good 2 feet from the table and smashed.
Naturally there was much debate in my house about weather we had a ghost in the house and mum would always put an end to any discussion as soon as she heard it. But none of that is proof of anything, I don't see why it should be considered. None of it matches up the surrounding mythos you hear about with hauntings nobody died in the house, or in the family recently. no one had visitations or felt a presence or anything else.
Which begs the question if things that "don't" happen do indeed happen with the exclusion of someone dying are we falsely applying context to events we simply cannot explain, If they occur within the time frame of a person dying?
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I had a weird thing happen in Bellagio, Italy.
My wife and I were staying in a place called Hotel Centrale, pretty old joint but really nice.
The first night we stayed there it took me a while to get to sleep. Pretty late in the night I heard someone come up the stairs and walk down the hallway to thier room. I remember it vivadly because I was laying there thinking about how slow they were walking, it seemed to take them forever to get up those stairs. Anyway this happend a couple of times during our stay there.
It got weird when I spoke to the young fella who was looking after the place (it was a family run hotel). He told me that we've had the place to ourselves, there were no other guests and the family lives in a separate house.
It freaked me out a bit but it was such an awesome spot that I'd probably stay there again if I got the chance
My wife and I were staying in a place called Hotel Centrale, pretty old joint but really nice.
The first night we stayed there it took me a while to get to sleep. Pretty late in the night I heard someone come up the stairs and walk down the hallway to thier room. I remember it vivadly because I was laying there thinking about how slow they were walking, it seemed to take them forever to get up those stairs. Anyway this happend a couple of times during our stay there.
It got weird when I spoke to the young fella who was looking after the place (it was a family run hotel). He told me that we've had the place to ourselves, there were no other guests and the family lives in a separate house.
It freaked me out a bit but it was such an awesome spot that I'd probably stay there again if I got the chance
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Did you hear it again after the keeper told you that you were staying there by yourself?
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Nope. We didn't stay there long and I spoke to him when we were checking out. I will forever regret not telling him what I heard.
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Its really quite amazing how powerful our senses can be when in conjunction with our brain. I've read stories about experiments people have done where they put a fake arm on a table within sight of someone and that person put their real arm under the table so they couldnt see it. After a while the persons body had began to believe that the fake arm was their own. The person knew it wasnt their real arm but as far as the brain was concerned it was real and the other arm didnt exist anymore. The persons brain has slowed blood flow to the arm and the arm got pins and needles due to going numb. Meanwhile when someone poked the fake arm the person claimed that when they saw the person poke the fake arm they were able to kinda feel it.
I know thats a bit off topic but it shows that the mind can play serious tricks on us. Especially our eyes. They can really dictate the information that goes into our brain. Another experiment involved wine experts drinking white wine that had red food colouring in it. Even though they were tasting white wine, because their eyes were seeing red wine it convinced the brain that what they were tasting was actually red wine. Almost all the wine experts failed to identify the white wine.
Pretty amazing I think
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Just came back to this thread after almost a year. Some very good stories. A lot of them gave me goosebumps while sitting here at work. I'm still a skeptic even though I've had a lot of weird incidences. Just thought I would share them with you below.
1. I remember my nan telling me this story when I was a kid. She was living with my pop (this was year and years before I was born) and they were watching TV one day when there was a knock at the door. My pop goes I wonder who that is and my nan replies its my sister. Our nannys just died. My pop said what all confused like and said she was crazy and that it was a very random thing to say. Long story short it was her sister and they nan had died the night prior. My nan always said she doesn't know why she said that. She just knew.
2. My pop died when I was four back in 1994 and we were all saying at my nans place for a while after the funeral. My mums partner said he got up for a piss the first night at about 4am and saw my pop in the lounge room putting his shoes on. My pop used to get up at 4am ever morning and start getting ready for work. My mums partner never stayed at my nans house again after that. I went to live with my nan when i was six and I would often wake up randomly between 4-5am and there would be sounds like floor creeks as if someone was walking around. I was always too scared to look or anything so I never actually saw anything. Looking back now I put it down to the house settling or something.
3. When I was 7 my nan decided that she was going to make a will and write who got what sentimental items in the house. There was a picture in the lounge room that has a man in the bush standing next to his dog looking out saying whose there. My nan decided that she wanted to give it to her son (my uncle) Ted. Meanwhile I was in my room playing, my room used to be my uncle Teds room when he was a kid, and this cross fell off one of the cupboards. I really liked it started playing with it like it was some kind of superhero or something. I just had it in my mind that it looked like it could fly. I asked my nan if I could draw a face on it and she said no that it belonged to my uncle Ted. He had made it in woodwork in school years ago. She then said if i wanted to I could call him the next day and ask if I could have it. The next day police came to our house to tell my nan that my uncle Ted had committed suicide during the night. He was found in his car alone in the bush with his dog.
Before the funeral my nan later told me that she went to the place where he died and sat in the car and she said that she him if he was ok and if he was happy now that he was at peace and she says that the car shook heavily for a few seconds then stopped. She thinks that it was him saying goodbye before leaving.
4. I've never really experience anything like the above again since the last 6 months. My girlfriend is very superstitious. She will freak out if she sees a black cat and will tell me off for opening an umbrella inside. I think that she suffers a lot from sleep paralyse as she often lays in bed and say things like she can feel breathing next to her face, or she'll jump randomly saying don't touch me and I look at her to tell her that I never touched her. I was on the other side of the bed and she will swear that she felt something like a finger graze her arm or slide down her back or through her hair. Again I always just put it off. But in the apartment I live in now with her, I cannot shake the feeling that I am always being watched. Once again, I do not really believe in paranormal stuff but I cannot explain the uneasy feelings that I have. I often think I see something out of the corner of my eye or hear something move in another room. I am forever walking about switching on lights to try and find out what a bang was or something. A lot of the noises I just put down to I live in an apartment with people living below me and I am probably hearing them, but sometime when I home alone and playing ps3 at like three in the morning and I hear a tapping behind me or something that sounds like something sliding on the floor behind me I just get the most uneasy feelings. But the worse is the constant feeling of being watched. I'm moving in a few weeks and I cannot be happier about it.
I know its a bit stupid saying that I don't believe after everything I wrote above but I like to think that everything can be explained with a logical answer.
Or maybe I'm just too scared to admit that something paranormal might be real haha
1. I remember my nan telling me this story when I was a kid. She was living with my pop (this was year and years before I was born) and they were watching TV one day when there was a knock at the door. My pop goes I wonder who that is and my nan replies its my sister. Our nannys just died. My pop said what all confused like and said she was crazy and that it was a very random thing to say. Long story short it was her sister and they nan had died the night prior. My nan always said she doesn't know why she said that. She just knew.
2. My pop died when I was four back in 1994 and we were all saying at my nans place for a while after the funeral. My mums partner said he got up for a piss the first night at about 4am and saw my pop in the lounge room putting his shoes on. My pop used to get up at 4am ever morning and start getting ready for work. My mums partner never stayed at my nans house again after that. I went to live with my nan when i was six and I would often wake up randomly between 4-5am and there would be sounds like floor creeks as if someone was walking around. I was always too scared to look or anything so I never actually saw anything. Looking back now I put it down to the house settling or something.
3. When I was 7 my nan decided that she was going to make a will and write who got what sentimental items in the house. There was a picture in the lounge room that has a man in the bush standing next to his dog looking out saying whose there. My nan decided that she wanted to give it to her son (my uncle) Ted. Meanwhile I was in my room playing, my room used to be my uncle Teds room when he was a kid, and this cross fell off one of the cupboards. I really liked it started playing with it like it was some kind of superhero or something. I just had it in my mind that it looked like it could fly. I asked my nan if I could draw a face on it and she said no that it belonged to my uncle Ted. He had made it in woodwork in school years ago. She then said if i wanted to I could call him the next day and ask if I could have it. The next day police came to our house to tell my nan that my uncle Ted had committed suicide during the night. He was found in his car alone in the bush with his dog.
Before the funeral my nan later told me that she went to the place where he died and sat in the car and she said that she him if he was ok and if he was happy now that he was at peace and she says that the car shook heavily for a few seconds then stopped. She thinks that it was him saying goodbye before leaving.
4. I've never really experience anything like the above again since the last 6 months. My girlfriend is very superstitious. She will freak out if she sees a black cat and will tell me off for opening an umbrella inside. I think that she suffers a lot from sleep paralyse as she often lays in bed and say things like she can feel breathing next to her face, or she'll jump randomly saying don't touch me and I look at her to tell her that I never touched her. I was on the other side of the bed and she will swear that she felt something like a finger graze her arm or slide down her back or through her hair. Again I always just put it off. But in the apartment I live in now with her, I cannot shake the feeling that I am always being watched. Once again, I do not really believe in paranormal stuff but I cannot explain the uneasy feelings that I have. I often think I see something out of the corner of my eye or hear something move in another room. I am forever walking about switching on lights to try and find out what a bang was or something. A lot of the noises I just put down to I live in an apartment with people living below me and I am probably hearing them, but sometime when I home alone and playing ps3 at like three in the morning and I hear a tapping behind me or something that sounds like something sliding on the floor behind me I just get the most uneasy feelings. But the worse is the constant feeling of being watched. I'm moving in a few weeks and I cannot be happier about it.
I know its a bit stupid saying that I don't believe after everything I wrote above but I like to think that everything can be explained with a logical answer.
Or maybe I'm just too scared to admit that something paranormal might be real haha
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If only this lady was a BF member!
Seriously strange stuff.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-cameras-filmed-thrown-floor-near-Chile.html
http://abc13.com/news/video-was-this-woman-attacked-by-a-ghost/503623/
Skeptics no doubt have a field day with this stuff and before CCTV was everywhere they all said " Why is there no footage of them " yet when there is the old " It is edited " or " that's fake " are the common lines and they will never believe a thing unless they cop it themselves.
Being a skeptic is so much easier than being a believer sadly but the Karma train is never far off........
Seriously strange stuff.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-cameras-filmed-thrown-floor-near-Chile.html
http://abc13.com/news/video-was-this-woman-attacked-by-a-ghost/503623/
Skeptics no doubt have a field day with this stuff and before CCTV was everywhere they all said " Why is there no footage of them " yet when there is the old " It is edited " or " that's fake " are the common lines and they will never believe a thing unless they cop it themselves.
Being a skeptic is so much easier than being a believer sadly but the Karma train is never far off........
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I work at the cinema of my little country town, and the boss is always telling stories about ghosts around the place. Here is a couple of weird experiences I've had myself:
Went to use the toilets one night, and as I went around the corner i found the usher cleaning the males. Turned to go out to the foyer, and then downstairs to the complex's toilets, when a female voice called out "why don't you use the ladies, Boss(*)". we looked at each other, then rushed out to the foyer, where there was no one there. With very few people in the cinema's, of which I knew none personally, and an all male staff, neither of us has an idea who yelled out
Not that long ago I was in the candybar, and i left a cupboard door open (naughty naughty). From the corner of my eye i watched the stationary door violently swing, before stopping abruptly in the same position. Perplexed, I watched the door for a few seconds, when it suddenly did it again. I quickly shut the door, then hid out the back.
Not that exciting I'll admit, just odd experiences
Went to use the toilets one night, and as I went around the corner i found the usher cleaning the males. Turned to go out to the foyer, and then downstairs to the complex's toilets, when a female voice called out "why don't you use the ladies, Boss(*)". we looked at each other, then rushed out to the foyer, where there was no one there. With very few people in the cinema's, of which I knew none personally, and an all male staff, neither of us has an idea who yelled out
Not that long ago I was in the candybar, and i left a cupboard door open (naughty naughty). From the corner of my eye i watched the stationary door violently swing, before stopping abruptly in the same position. Perplexed, I watched the door for a few seconds, when it suddenly did it again. I quickly shut the door, then hid out the back.
Not that exciting I'll admit, just odd experiences
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I think it could just be a coincidence. I'm not sure there's anything overtly paranormal occurring here.
If only this lady was a BF member!
Seriously strange stuff.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-cameras-filmed-thrown-floor-near-Chile.html
http://abc13.com/news/video-was-this-woman-attacked-by-a-ghost/503623/
Skeptics no doubt have a field day with this stuff and before CCTV was everywhere they all said " Why is there no footage of them " yet when there is the old " It is edited " or " that's fake " are the common lines and they will never believe a thing unless they cop it themselves.
Being a skeptic is so much easier than being a believer sadly but the Karma train is never far off........
i know if i was a ghost i'd randomly go around pushing people over. that and messing with kiddes alphabet fridge magnets and hiding peoples car keys.
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My wife's family on her mothers side has a history of ghost stories and physic abilities. My mother-in-law lived in a house with her 4 sisters and 2 brothers out in the Melbourne western suburbs in the 60s. This house had a resident ghost with a strong presence who use to do all sorts of things when they were kids and the whole family just lived with the fact that strange things went on...noises at night, moving objects etc. As kids they used to call out and tell the ghost to shut up and let them sleep in peace.
Fast forward about 30 years when everyone was grown up and long after after the family moved from that place in the 70s..something very freaky happened.
One of my mother-in-law's sisters.....who is known to have the strongest of physic abilities of the sisters......lives in a house in Glenroy with her partner.
A few years ago a big storm one winter blew down part of their backyard fence and a repair man was called to come in and fix the damage.
The aunty and her partner got chatting with the bloke as he worked and soon discovered to their disbelief that this man lived in the very same childhood home the aunty grew up in with the ghost.
The fence man described how for years since they bought the place in the 90s that his family had been subjected to night time noises and strange sounds that was starting to drive them nuts.
This fence man was around for a few days as he completed his work and they got friendly with him. Soon he invited the pair around for dinner and my wife's aunty spent a big part of the night walking around the house telling the ghost to ease up on the noises and to leave these poor people alone.
Can't remember if the paranormal stuff stopped after her visit but it always freaks me out about how that fence repair bloke came to meet a person who lived in the exact same house decades before and still there was ghost stuff going on....weird.
Fast forward about 30 years when everyone was grown up and long after after the family moved from that place in the 70s..something very freaky happened.
One of my mother-in-law's sisters.....who is known to have the strongest of physic abilities of the sisters......lives in a house in Glenroy with her partner.
A few years ago a big storm one winter blew down part of their backyard fence and a repair man was called to come in and fix the damage.
The aunty and her partner got chatting with the bloke as he worked and soon discovered to their disbelief that this man lived in the very same childhood home the aunty grew up in with the ghost.
The fence man described how for years since they bought the place in the 90s that his family had been subjected to night time noises and strange sounds that was starting to drive them nuts.
This fence man was around for a few days as he completed his work and they got friendly with him. Soon he invited the pair around for dinner and my wife's aunty spent a big part of the night walking around the house telling the ghost to ease up on the noises and to leave these poor people alone.
Can't remember if the paranormal stuff stopped after her visit but it always freaks me out about how that fence repair bloke came to meet a person who lived in the exact same house decades before and still there was ghost stuff going on....weird.
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Some great stories here but me personally, I don't believe in any of this stuff because I've never had an experience, like a ghost one or anything, just nothing.
Did the Ararat asylum tour a few years ago and the guy leading us around was telling us what happened here and there and how some people could smell blood in rooms or feel cold air in certain areas, I couldn't feel or smell any of that, while others in the group said they could.
Did the Ararat asylum tour a few years ago and the guy leading us around was telling us what happened here and there and how some people could smell blood in rooms or feel cold air in certain areas, I couldn't feel or smell any of that, while others in the group said they could.
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Maybe you are a ghost and everyone else is experiencing you........................
