Anyone else sick of hearing about ANZAC Day and what makes us Australian yet?

[Scallop Industry Thug]

A gross generalisation that you are incapable of substantiating. Not dissimiliar to most of the crap you post.

Look at this rubbish. One of life's golden rules: If a Fanatic does it, its wrong.

 

[raghav]

Look at this rubbish. One of life's golden rules: If a Fanatic does it, its wrong.

Are the ones pictured "The same morons buying anzac hoodies and crying crocodile tears are often the same morons who've wanted more Australians to kill and die in Vietnam and Afghanistan"?
Just another irrelevant rubbish post by a moron.

 

[Pie eyed]

What has any of that load of verbal diaorrhea go to do with this thread?

It's about Xsess and his ilk.
#nationalistsloons

 

[little graham]

Are the ones pictured "The same morons buying anzac hoodies and crying crocodile tears are often the same morons who've wanted more Australians to kill and die in Vietnam and Afghanistan"?
.

It's true. Vietnam was disgusting. The liberals forced our young men to go occupy that country. They never tried winning there, they were trying to bleed socialism dry. Our forces and our allies run heroin, supported genocide, so that capitalism could never be found out to be lacking.

 

[KGBeast]

It's true. Vietnam was disgusting. The liberals forced our young men to go occupy that country. They never tried winning there, they were trying to bleed socialism dry. Our forces and our allies run heroin, supported genocide, so that capitalism could never be found out to be lacking.

After china and the USSR killed tens of millions of their own people to make their systems work the rest of the world held a fear of communism. Vietnam may have been the turning point of that fear but you would be surprised at the amount of volunteers that joined up to fight.

 

[little graham]

After china and the USSR killed tens of millions of their own people to make their systems work the rest of the world held a fear of communism.

You're posting properganda/crap.

Vietnamese went to the Americans first for help removing the French. They had every right. France didn't like what the Germans did to them, but had no problem doing it to Asia. This is who our diggers died for.

Ho chi min was a resistance leader in France during the war. America were paranoid and forced Ho Chi min into a conflict. We even created monsters like Pol pot to control Ho chi min.

 

[Power Raid]

I am just wondering how different people were in WW1 compared to today.

People from that era IMO were more selfless, that is, human rights were not as strong as today, individual rights were not as strong, life itself was far cheaper and IMO the giving of one's life to a cause was far more accepted.

I often think of volunteers and the lack of them today compared with what i have read about back then, the spirit of giving, perhaps out of necessity was bigger, the spirit of volunteering for a cause was far more popular and just a accepted part of life.

I think about the tennis club i belong to, way back in the 1950's the original members of the tennis club mortgaged their collective houses to get a loan to build the clubhouse, i just don't think it would happen that way these days, people (or most) would just not do it, these days the tennis clubs like many clubs struggles to get any sort of a committee, plenty of people are keen to rock up to have a hit though.

I think people are far more selfish, society is consumer driven with the latest new products, i am not saying i am not part of it, i just think people today have very little understanding of what drove many men and women to sign up for Gallipoli or indeed WW1.

rant over.

Nah they were just looking for a sense of adventure. No TV and little chance of travel. Not to mention more racist.

How exciting would it be to travel the world with your mates and get paid to shoot inferior races?

War is something to remember but not celebrate. Romanticise the past and the attitudes of the past is not doing history justice.

 

[Pie eyed]

What has any of that load of verbal diaorrhea go to do with this thread?

PS None of it was verbal either Einstein.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Are the ones pictured "The same morons buying anzac hoodies and crying crocodile tears are often the same morons who've wanted more Australians to kill and die in Vietnam and Afghanistan"?
Just another irrelevant rubbish post by a moron.

It's often the same idiots who fake cry on anzac day who are there waving flags when more Australian troops are sent to kill and die.

 

[Borry]

Saw people churning out crocodile tears when I visited the HMAS memorial in Geraldton this time last year. Just so cringe worthy and fake, smacks of a disrespectful 'look at me' attitude. They are probably the same people who do charities like Movember whilst not giving a flying two hoots about depression and other male mental illness or other charity events with a similar attitude.

 

[madmug]

Saw people churning out crocodile tears when I visited the HMAS memorial in Geraldton this time last year. Just so cringe worthy and fake, smacks of a disrespectful 'look at me' attitude. They are probably the same people who do charities like Movember whilst not giving a flying two hoots about depression and other male mental illness or other charity events with a similar attitude.

They're called 'politicians'. You will find them where ever their is a camera & any chance of getting attention.

A WW1 event is a God sent for those morons. We've got a lot of WW1 to 'respect' yet. Nearly another 4 years of it infact.

God help US now.

 

[B4Bear]

They're called 'politicians'. You will find them where ever their is a camera & any chance of getting attention.

A WW1 event is a God sent for those morons. We've got a lot of WW1 to 'respect' yet. Nearly another 4 years of it infact.

God help US now.

Try being in the military. It is all pervasive.

 

[little graham]

Story on Sunday night earlier about Australians fighting in a christian army in Iraq. They are fighting because they believe in their god, fighting against a lot who believe in their own god. Both lots armed by Americans. Evidently both lots have a lot in common, they both think that the other lots god is evil and commit awful atrocities, both lots use those attrocites as justification for committing atrocities.

One lot thinks the invasion 12 years ago was a war crime, the other prefers you don't talk about it.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I think Remembrance Day is far more appropriate holiday.

It is sombre, isn't parochial and in the events Ive seen efforts are made to acknowledge the impact of war on civilians.

Look at what anzac day has become. A commercialised idiot-fest, promoted by people who have no idea what lessons are to be taken from Gallipoli. anzac is now a catchcry of those who don't want to look critically at this country's military engagement, or are unable to.

 

[Southern Urchins]

As a former servicemen I attend my local dawn service, have a few beers with some old military mates and then watch the footy together. The day for me is about respecting the brotherhood of the defence force and those that have fallen.

Those fanatic morons make me cringe and I'm not overly supportive of my parents who are traveling to Turkey on that ANZAC cruise taking flags, scarves and other commercialized bullshit. For me, that's disrespectful and not what the day is about.

For service personal Anzac and Remembrance Day are our days, but it's wonderful to see the younger folk who attend the marches wearing loved ones medals who can no longer attend.

I marched with my Grandfather in town long before John Howard came on the scene, although I agree there was a resurgence in the mid 90s to make Anzac Day a bigger day than remembrance day for some reason. Both days are special, both days should be observed with respect and class! And never should the flag of this country be worn as a fckn cape!

 

[raghav]

Story on Sunday night earlier about Australians fighting in a christian army in Iraq. They are fighting because they believe in their god, fighting against a lot who believe in their own god. Both lots armed by Americans. Evidently both lots have a lot in common, they both think that the other lots god is evil and commit awful atrocities, both lots use those attrocites as justification for committing atrocities.

One lot thinks the invasion 12 years ago was a war crime, the other prefers you don't talk about it.

Once again your stupid anti American irrelevant ramblings have nothing to do with this thread. How you escape the attention of the Moderators is beyond me. Why dont you start up a thread titled "I hate America and everything American"? Then you and those of your ilk will be able to get your rocks off there at your leisure.

 

[Power Raid]

I think Remembrance Day is far more appropriate holiday.

It is sombre, isn't parochial and in the events Ive seen efforts are made to acknowledge the impact of war on civilians.

Look at what anzac day has become. A commercialised idiot-fest, promoted by people who have no idea what lessons are to be taken from Gallipoli.

hear hear

(except the last sentence)

 

[B4Bear]

As a former servicemen I attend my local dawn service, have a few beers with some old military mates and then watch the footy together. The day for me is about respecting the brotherhood of the defence force and those that have fallen.

Those fanatic morons make me cringe and I'm not overly supportive of my parents who are traveling to Turkey on that ANZAC cruise taking flags, scarves and other commercialized bullshit. For me, that's disrespectful and not what the day is about.

For service personal Anzac and Remembrance Day are our days, but it's wonderful to see the younger folk who attend the marches wearing loved ones medals who can no longer attend.

I marched with my Grandfather in town long before John Howard came on the scene, although I agree there was a resurgence in the mid 90s to make Anzac Day a bigger day than remembrance day for some reason. Both days are special, both days should be observed with respect and class! And never should the flag of this country be worn as a fckn cape!

More articulate than me.

+1

 

[KGBeast]

You're posting properganda/crap.

Vietnamese went to the Americans first for help removing the French. They had every right. France didn't like what the Germans did to them, but had no problem doing it to Asia. This is who our diggers died for.

Ho chi min was a resistance leader in France during the war. America were paranoid and forced Ho Chi min into a conflict. We even created monsters like Pol pot to control Ho chi min.

Are you saying that there wasn't a fear of communism in the west? Because that was the point of my post. And it's not crap that Russia murdered millions of soviet citizens as well as the Chinese allowing more to starve to death.

 

[little graham]

Are you saying that there wasn't a fear of communism in the west?

If there was fear of communism why did the Americans force an ally of thiers to go to the russians to get help freeing themselves from the criminal french?

blackcat knows why.

 

[blackcat]

Look at this rubbish. One of life's golden rules: If a Fanatic does it, its wrong.

Mick Malthouse

patron saint of The Fanatics

 

[PP34]

I think Remembrance Day is far more appropriate holiday.

It is sombre, isn't parochial and in the events Ive seen efforts are made to acknowledge the impact of war on civilians.

Look at what anzac day has become. A commercialised idiot-fest, promoted by people who have no idea what lessons are to be taken from Gallipoli. anzac is now a catchcry of those who don't want to look critically at this country's military engagement, or are unable to.

Remembrance day is far more important. A day that you regularly acknowledge and reflect upon mankind's greatest horrors should involve war coming to a halt. Not about thousands of naive Australians getting slaughtered at some faraway land and the precedent it created for future generations.

But sadly politicians and nationalist loons will continue to get excited about ANZAC day annually, seeing it as their chance to spark feelings of racism, violence etc amongst others. It is beyond ****ed up how we have a national holiday where thousands of people basically celebrate war.

Mick Malthouse

patron saint of The Fanatics

Malthouse has always been loony as a football coach, but his nationalistic views regarding ANZAC day and pumping a game of footy up to be warlike always surprised me. He has always struck me as someone far more intelligent than that.

 

[Catfish Alley]

ANZAC Day is about those that have served in all conflicts or peacekeeping duties. The day actually means a lot to many veterans and those currently serving. My Grandpa fought for the British but the day still meant a lot to him so I can't argue that the day has no relevance. It is basically a second Remembrance Day for Australia and New Zealand though. I don't really like what people like the Fanatics do to commemorate the occasion but I wouldn't take it away from the people that it is meant for.

 

[Power Raid]

ANZAC Day is about those that have served in all conflicts or peacekeeping duties. The day actually means a lot to many veterans and those currently serving. My Grandpa fought for the British but the day still meant a lot to him so I can't argue that the day has no relevance. It is basically a second Remembrance Day for Australia and New Zealand though. I don't really like what people like the Fanatics do to commemorate the occasion but I wouldn't take it away from the people that it is meant for.

as an ex-servicemen myself, I find the day disgusting. There are better ways to reflect on the fallen.

Even whilst serving, I requested an exemption from marching or participating and it was always granted.

 

[Catfish Alley]

as an ex-servicemen myself, I find the day disgusting. There are better ways to reflect on the fallen.

Even whilst serving, I requested an exemption from marching or participating and it was always granted.

Which ways do you find disgusting?