List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade & FA 2024

[OniAu]

He's not a bad acquisition, provided we don't give up too much if we do acquire him.

We need that agre profile also to grow with Naicos. At the moment feel we are lacking some players around his age to build that chemistry with.

Smiths pace will be electric with Naicos also

 

[OniAu]

He’s a very immature kid really. He thinks he needs to lead this false instagram life, businessman, entrepreneur etc, but struggles with crippling anxiety that a life out of the spotlight except for his football obviously would be best. Until he builds some life skills and wisdom, and starts putting a solid career behind him, asking for big contracts and changing clubs etc. won’t necessarily be the right thing. Look how it turned out for Dayne Beams and Mitch Clarke among others that weren’t there mentally to take on big responsibility.

I feel Flys approach for him might do him wonders , put some faith in Bailey on what he does best. Football wise and positional wise.

Bevo doesnt seem the best player relations wise coach going around.

 

[Rebuildmode]

Well I just don't see things as negatively as some .. we will replace our veterans with players who can play straight away, whilst introducing our younger players who are being developed.

I don't expect all 9 to retire at the end of 2024.

A side without 4 or 5 of the oldest vets and a few recruits doesn't look too awful.


Quaynor Frampton Moore
Maynard Perryman Young

Daicos Cameron Crisp
Daicos De Goey Smith

McInnes Elliott Schulz
Mihocek McStay Hill

Int:
McCreery Mitchell Lipinski Harrison DeMattia Richards Macrae
Noble Jiath Allan Markov Parker Ryan Dean Eyre Begg Steene

 

[Scodog10]

Knowing us we'll probably trade the Hawks 2nd round plus our future first plus Fin Macrae elsewhere for Smith

Like Bianco I don’t think this adds much of anything unless he pulls a rabbit from here.

 

[Rebuildmode]

Early 2nd rounder and whatever we can get for Johnson.

 

[jmac70]

Early 2nd rounder and whatever we can get for Johnson.

Joined today…

 

[Scodog10]

A side without 4 or 5 of the oldest vets and a few recruits doesn't look too awful.


Quaynor Frampton Moore
Maynard Perryman Jones

Daicos Cameron Crisp
Daicos De Goey Smith

McInnes Elliott Schulz
Mihocek McStay Hill

Int:
McCreery Mitchell Lipinski Harrison DeMattia Richards Macrae
Noble Jiath Allan Markov Parker Ryan Dean Eyre Begg Steene

Jones

He’s more fumbly than Goldsack, he doesn’t look a particularly good athlete and there’s no finesse in his game it’s all straight line.

 

[Rebuildmode]

Jones

He’s more fumbly than Goldsack, he doesn’t look a particularly good athlete and there’s no finesse in his game it’s all straight line.

But if I'm hearing you correctly he'll win a flag with us like Goldsack yeah?

Ok gives me an excuse to use Lachie Young, evidently the club has a boner for him anyway.

 

[Scodog10]

But if I'm hearing you correctly he'll win a flag with us like Goldsack yeah?

You aren’t because you’re reading and not particularly well…

 

[Rebuildmode]

You aren’t because you’re reading and not particularly well…

Truth be told I'm drinking and the reading is secondary but carry on, I'm fascinated to hear about this flag.

 

[memoryofmchale]

He’s a very immature kid really. He thinks he needs to lead this false instagram life, businessman, entrepreneur etc, but struggles with crippling anxiety that a life out of the spotlight except for his football obviously would be best. Until he builds some life skills and wisdom, and starts putting a solid career behind him, asking for big contracts and changing clubs etc. won’t necessarily be the right thing. Look how it turned out for Dayne Beams and Mitch Clarke among others that weren’t there mentally to take on big responsibility.

Stop woofing please. Inside barks only.

BAZLENKA is hardly in a great environment at the Dogs and their game of Bevo Says. If he has anxiety, an unpredictable coach who is all over the place, isn’t very helpful.

Changing clubs has worked for a number of players. Look what it did for Oleg.

 

[SwanBet]

Lobb is an interesting one, from the outside you could have questions on his character, however he kind of fits what we would need and would be an upgrade on Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

who should just be a depth ruckman next year in the final year of his deal with us.

If bringing in Lobb helps lower the cost of the Smith trade, then I would be for it.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

He’s a very immature kid really. He thinks he needs to lead this false instagram life, businessman, entrepreneur etc, but struggles with crippling anxiety that a life out of the spotlight except for his football obviously would be best. Until he builds some life skills and wisdom, and starts putting a solid career behind him, asking for big contracts and changing clubs etc. won’t necessarily be the right thing. Look how it turned out for Dayne Beams and Mitch Clarke among others that weren’t there mentally to take on big responsibility.

His two besties are at Collingwood

If we manage to land him, I doubt behavioural issues will be too much of a problem for us

 

[JOELY]

Truth be told I'm drinking and the reading is secondary but carry on, I'm fascinated to hear about this flag.

This is evident.

 

[Rebuildmode]

This is evident.

As Humphrey Bogart once famously stated: "The only thing wrong with the world is that it's 2 drinks behind me."

 

[jmac70]

He’s a very immature kid really. He thinks he needs to lead this false instagram life, businessman, entrepreneur etc, but struggles with crippling anxiety that a life out of the spotlight except for his football obviously would be best. Until he builds some life skills and wisdom, and starts putting a solid career behind him, asking for big contracts and changing clubs etc. won’t necessarily be the right thing. Look how it turned out for Dayne Beams and Mitch Clarke among others that weren’t there mentally to take on big responsibility.

Rubbish.
I live in Footscray, a stones throw from the Teddy oval. I have seen Smith out and about with the Daicos boys.

He’s fine.

If he chooses to leave then a deal will be done. If not, he stays a Bulldog.

That’s it.

 

[gouki88]

He’s a very immature kid really. He thinks he needs to lead this false instagram life, businessman, entrepreneur etc, but struggles with crippling anxiety that a life out of the spotlight except for his football obviously would be best. Until he builds some life skills and wisdom, and starts putting a solid career behind him, asking for big contracts and changing clubs etc. won’t necessarily be the right thing. Look how it turned out for Dayne Beams and Mitch Clarke among others that weren’t there mentally to take on big responsibility.

Excellent work trying to scare us away

 

[memoryofmchale]

Rubbish.
I live in Footscray, a stones throw from the Teddy oval. I have seen Smith out and about with the Daicos boys.

He’s fine.

If he chooses to leave then a deal will be done. If not, he stays a Bulldog.

That’s it.

He’s far from the worst AFL player with behaviour.

We’ve tamed Jordan De Goey. Bailey Smith shouldn’t be that hard. We have psychologists, player welfare, etc for a reason.

If he leaves, it shouldn’t be an issue. Make sure he has a support network and the problems probably don’t arise. He’s worth more if he keeps his nose clean. Literally.

 

[adammania9]

We can rescue Josh Battle

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Josh Battle

Age

25

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

He’s far from the worst AFL player with behaviour.

We’ve tamed Jordan De Goey. Bailey Smith shouldn’t be that hard. We have psychologists, player welfare, etc for a reason.

If he leaves, it shouldn’t be an issue. Make sure he has a support network and the problems probably don’t arise. He’s worth more if he keeps his nose clean. Literally.

What has he done exactly? Caught on video with drugs from a few years ago?

Far out. Talk about an over reaction from some regarding Baz's alleged behaviour.

 

[jmac70]

What has he done exactly? Caught on video with drugs from a few years ago?

Far out. Talk about an over reaction from some regarding Baz's alleged behaviour.

I’m guessing here, but based on his friendship with the Daicos boys, I reckon he would be happy to play for Collingwood.

No doubt though, he still loves the dogs.

He has a decision to make.

 

[soreplums]

The Dogs have no leverage. He’s uncontracted, coming off an ACL and a “down” year in 2023. It’s the Ollie Henry situation all over again. The biggest hurdle will be convincing him across not the deal.

FWIW I’m with nahnah and unplugged and not 100% convinced. I think a new home would get the best out of him and on the surface that best looks good, but I have queries over his impact. He feels like a Treloar type whose impact is more through volume than anything else. I don’t think he’s a Crisp/ JDG/ Pendles type where something happens whenever he has it so I don’t know how he goes in our mix unlike Schultz who was the biggest no brainer recruit we’ve landed since Jolly.

He wants to come to us.

 

[Anzacday]

Is it time to just roll this thread into the Trade thread?

Done

 

[Gone Critical]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/afl-concussion-collingwood-premiership-star-nathan-murphy-announces-retirement/news-story/46f3fe7c23560264ec0c55dd9d89ce4c

This is where journos get really lazty and we have to take care not to get caught up in thier hype. For a start IU would ban the word warchest, it gives an inflated sense of what we have.

Lat week it was reported Collingwood would be looking at a $4.5M or even $5M warchest going forward as our 9 over 30s departed through the next few seasons. This week its become up to $4M by the end of this year. Nah

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I'd be interested in Macrae if Mitchell retired at the end of the year. Like Mitchell, I think he could be re-trained to be useful for us for a couple of years.

We already have a macrae that can’t get a look in.