2015 Ladder predictions

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I too have gone through the fixture and calculated wins & margins for each game. For my predictions, I have assumed that Hird remains coach and that Essendon suffer no penalties throughout the season

1. Port Adelaide (17-5): Will improve massively. Have a better percentage than Sydney & Hawthorn, partly because they have four very young sides in the last six weeks.

2. Sydney (17-5): I was surprised to have them higher than the Hawks, but I had them undefeated after their bye.

3. Hawthorn (17-5): Still a quality side, I've got them dropping both their games against Port, otherwise they'd be higher

4. Fremantle (16-6): They're still a strong team. I've predicted them to go undefeated at Subi

5. Geelong (15-7): Will still be a force for most of the season. Probably lucky to get 15 wins.

6. North Melbourne (12-10): I'm still unsure about North. They'll drop games they should coast through, win ones they shouldn't

7. Gold Coast Suns (12-10): Young team, they'll start off well, and tire as the season goes on.

8. Richmond (11-11): They'll stagnate. I'm predicting a late resurgence (again) after being 4-8 after twelve matches

9. Adelaide (11-11): About the same as last year, but with a new coach this shouldn't be a concern. Tex Walker to win the Coleman in my opinion.

10. Brisbane Lions (11-11): Will improve quickly with Beams & Christensen added. Still have the potential to bleed goals and have their percentage slashed as a result.

11. Essendon (11-11): I don't see much opportunity for improvement. Their best players are already ageing. I have reservations about Hird's coaching ability, so I've got them sliding

12. Collingwood (9-13): Beams has left, Swan another year older etc. They're beginning a development phase. They'll unearth a few more good kids.

13. WC Eagles (9-13): I don't rate their kids, but 13th still seems a bit harsh on them.

14. GWS (9-13): Will start well and trail off throughout the year. They claim their first wins over North Melbourne and Essendon

15. Carlton (6-16): In a rebuilding phase, will go backwards with a couple of blowout losses

16. Melbourne (6-16): Still young. Will occasionally give a top 8 side a scare

17. Western Bulldogs (5-17): Losing Griffen will hurt a lot, and with a new coach they'll struggle. Without doing it game-by-game, I'd have placed them above Melbourne though.

18. St. Kilda (4-18): Developing, get a couple of wins, but blowout losses are still an issue

Other predictions/quirks:
- Richmond defeat NM to squeeze into the eight on the last Saturday of round 23, replacing the Crows who lose to Geelong.
- Malthouse gets sacked following a heavy loss to Gold Coast in round 13 which sees them drop to 18th
- Port Adelaide and Fremantle play at Adelaide Oval for two consecutive weeks, over round 23 & the QF

Finals predictions
Week 1

Port Adelaide def. Fremantle
Sydney def. by Hawthorn
Geelong
def. Richmond
North Melbourne def. Gold Coast Suns

Week 2
Fremantle def. Geelong
Sydney def. by North Melbourne

Week 3
Port Adelaide def. North Melbourne
Hawthorn def. Fremantle

Week 4
Port Adelaide def. Hawthorn
 
1. Sydney: - 16+ wins
2. Hawthorn: 15-18 wins
3. Port Adelaide: 14-17 wins
4. Richmond: 15-16 wins
5. North Melb: 13-16 wins
6. Fremantle: 12-15 wins
7. Geelong: 12-14 wins

8. Gold Coast: 12-14 wins
9. Adelaide: 11-13 wins
10. GWS Giants: 10-11 wins
11. West Coast: 9-11 wins
12. Brisbane: 8-10 wins
13. Collingwood: 7-9 wins
14. Melbourne: 7-8 wins
15. Bulldogs: 5-6 wins
16. Carlton: 4-6 wins
17. St Kilda: 3-5 wins
18. Essendon: 0 wins
 

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1. Sydney: - 16+ wins
2. Hawthorn: 15-18 wins
3. Port Adelaide: 14-17 wins
4. Richmond: 15-16 wins
5. North Melb: 13-16 wins
6. Fremantle: 12-15 wins
7. Geelong: 12-14 wins

8. Gold Coast: 12-14 wins
9. Adelaide: 11-13 wins
10. GWS Giants: 10-11 wins
11. West Coast: 9-11 wins
12. Brisbane: 8-10 wins
13. Collingwood: 7-9 wins
14. Melbourne: 7-8 wins
15. Bulldogs: 5-6 wins
16. Carlton: 4-6 wins
17. St Kilda: 3-5 wins
18. Essendon: 0 wins


I love this. No. 1 draft pick in 2015.
 
Went through the fixture and made some scores, and this is what came out. Obviously my prediction won't be what transpires, and since it is so hard to tip upsets, it will only give a bit of an idea of what the ladder will look like.. Just my opinion. And another thing, this is obviously without any players in the draft from this year, so things will definitely change from now to Round 1.

1. Port Adelaide 20-2: Not sure about this, since I have question marks over their depth. But their middle patch of the year is quite breezy, so i was very surprised to have them losing two games.

2. Sydney 19-3: Will be better than last year IMO

3. Hawthorn 16-6: Will drop off a bit with age

4. Gold Coast 16-6: Gave them almost every game at Metricon, would be a good effort for them to finish top 4

5. North Melbourne 14-8: Thereabouts, but i still think they're not quite top 4 material

6. Brisbane 14-8: They play pretty well at the Gabba. Midfield will keep them competitive

7. Geelong 14-8: Don't think they can compete with top 4 but still always around the mark.

8. Adelaide 13-9 - Should have a harder edge about them. Still think their depth is not great.

9. Fremantle 12-10: Will remain competitive but good teams will get us.

10. GWS 11-11: Expect to see some improvement, late in the year especially

11. Richmond 11-11: Think their list has holes in it.

12. Collingwood 10-12: Will struggle but they still have some very good players

13. West coast 6-16: Don't think their list is any good tbh. If midfield doesn't improve they will struggle.

14. Essendon 6-16: Now i'm assuming they will cop some sort of penalty from ASADA, so this is still up in the air.

15. Carlton 6-16: List has major issues, will not take them anywhere.

16. Melbourne 5-17: gradual improvement but still can't see them doing much

17. Bulldogs 3-19: Take Boyd out, and they have serious issues with their list. Will struggle no doubt.

18. St Kilda 2-20: Need to keep rebuilding.
Lol some funny stuff right there, you have sides jumping from nowhere based on a Trade period .
 
1. Sydney: - 16+ wins
2. Hawthorn: 15-18 wins
3. Port Adelaide: 14-17 wins
4. Richmond: 15-16 wins
5. North Melb: 13-16 wins
6. Fremantle: 12-15 wins
7. Geelong: 12-14 wins

8. Gold Coast: 12-14 wins
9. Adelaide: 11-13 wins
10. GWS Giants: 10-11 wins
11. West Coast: 9-11 wins
12. Brisbane: 8-10 wins
13. Collingwood: 7-9 wins
14. Melbourne: 7-8 wins
15. Bulldogs: 5-6 wins
16. Carlton: 4-6 wins
17. St Kilda: 3-5 wins
18. Essendon: 0 wins
Richmond 4th lol delusional much ?
 
I did some mucking around with last years ladder at the end of the home and away season ...

ladder.png

The "home" and "away" columns are just a sum of the final ladder positions for opponents.

The -ve values in the "difference" column show an easier draw - +ve a tougher draw compared to where you finished on the ladder.

An upset is where you win against a team above you, lose against a team below you.

It loosely shows that North and Richmond had an easier draw for teams that finished in the 8, and Brisbane had a tough one for a team in the bottom 8.

Collingwood seemed to do be the standout for upset wins, North for upset losses (although of course ladder position effects these number massively)

What does it mean? I dunno - just more fuel for the confusing fire that is trying to predict anything from the 2014 season :)
 
Richmond 4th lol delusional much ?

Care to post your predictions? Or are you just going to slag off anyone that doesn't rate Carlton?

Or perhaps you could explain why you think Richmond winning 15 games is delusional? Their 2013 form combined with the second half of 2014 suggests that they are capable of winning 15 or so games when at full strength.
 
Thought I'd be conservative and cover all bases...
1. Adelaide 0-22 wins.
2. Brisbane 0-22 wins.
3. Carlton 0-22 wins.
4. Collingwood 0-22 wins.
5. Fremantle 0-22 wins.
6. Geelong 0-22 wins.
7. Gold Coast 0-22 wins.
8. Greater Western Sydney 0-22 wins.
9. Hawthorn 0-22 wins.
10. Melbourne 0-22 wins.
11. North Melbourne 0-22 wins.
12. Port Adelaide 0-22 wins.
13. Richmond 0-22 wins.
14. St Kilda 0-22 wins.
15. Sydney 0-22 wins.
16. West Coast 0-22 wins.
17. Western Bulldogs 0-22 wins.
18. Essendon 0 wins.
 
1. Sydney
2. Port Power
3. Hawthorn
4. Fremantle
5. North Melbourne
6. Richmond
7. Geelong
8. Gold Coast
---------------------
9. Collingwood
10. Adelaide
11. West Coast
12. Essendon
13. Brisbane
14. GWS
15. Melbourne
16. Carlton
17. Bulldogs
18. St. Kilda
 
Care to post your predictions? Or are you just going to slag off anyone that doesn't rate Carlton?

Or perhaps you could explain why you think Richmond winning 15 games is delusional? Their 2013 form combined with the second half of 2014 suggests that they are capable of winning 15 or so games when at full strength.
No it's much more fun to watch you make a fool of yourself ...Tigers had a dream draw and a dream run with injuries..they will possibly finish around 7-13 th if they have another good run.
 
MINOR ROUND
1. Sydney
2. Port Adelaide
3. North Melbourne
4. Hawthorn
5. Fremantle
6. Richmond
7. Adelaide
8. Gold Coast

9. West Coast
10. Geelong
11. Brisbane
12. Essendon
13. Collingwood
14. GWS
15. Carlton
16. Bulldogs
17. Melbourne
18. St Kilda


GRAND FINAL
Sydney vs Port Adelaide

PREMIERS
Sydney

BROWNLOW
Robbie Gray

COLEMAN
Taylor Walker
 

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No it's much more fun to watch you make a fool of yourself ...Tigers had a dream draw and a dream run with injuries..they will possibly finish around 7-13 th if they have another good run.

You what? Just lol. I guess you missed the first half of the year.
 
1. Port Adelaide
2. Hawthorn
3. Fremantle
4. Gold Coast
5. West Coast
6. North Melbourne
7. Sydney
8. Richmond
----------------------
9. Geelong
10. Adelaide
11. Essendon
12. Brisbane
13. GWS
14. Collingwood
15. Carlton
16. Melbourne
17. St Kilda
18. Bulldogs

This prediction will be wrong.
 
Looking through some posts and the fixture this is how i see the top 8

1. Sydney - Still a quality side and were unlucky at the last hurdle this year
2. Port - Only if they don't fade
3. Hawthorne - Might just be at there peak
4. North - I know i might be stretching it but they do have talent to reach 4th
5. Fremantle - Might just have one more real crack
6. Geelong - I think now is when they definitely slip a few spots
7. Brisbane - Might be bias but there midfield will carry them. They do have enough mids that can kick goals or play half-back
8. Richmond - Somehow make it once again
9. Gold Coast - SO close yet so far. Their still relying on Ablett even with the addition of Malceski
10. Adelaide - Another team that is a competitor for the 8
11. Collingwood - Starting to enter a rebuild stage
12. West Coast - Do have some talented players just haven't sorted it out yet
13. Carlton - This is all I could really place them at
14. GWS - May be starting to rise with a few more wins
15. Melbourne - Even with the addition of Lemumba still not reaching its potential yet
16. St Kilda - Not much changing and definitely not looking like the team from 09-10
17. Bulldogs - I think most people can agree
18. Essendon - Only if punished, if not there a contender for the 8

Any team from 7-12 can fill 7th and 8th

Grand Final
Sydney V Port

Premiers
Could go either way
 
Looking through some posts and the fixture this is how i see the top 8

1. Sydney - Still a quality side and were unlucky at the last hurdle this year
2. Port - Only if they don't fade
3. Hawthorne - Might just be at there peak
4. North - I know i might be stretching it but they do have talent to reach 4th
5. Fremantle - Might just have one more real crack
6. Geelong - I think now is when they definitely slip a few spots
7. Brisbane - Might be bias but there midfield will carry them. They do have enough mids that can kick goals or play half-back
8. Richmond - Somehow make it once again
9. Gold Coast - SO close yet so far. Their still relying on Ablett even with the addition of Malceski
10. Adelaide - Another team that is a competitor for the 8
11. Collingwood - Starting to enter a rebuild stage
12. West Coast - Do have some talented players just haven't sorted it out yet
13. Carlton - This is all I could really place them at
14. GWS - May be starting to rise with a few more wins
15. Melbourne - Even with the addition of Lemumba still not reaching its potential yet
16. St Kilda - Not much changing and definitely not looking like the team from 09-10
17. Bulldogs - I think most people can agree
18. Essendon - Only if punished, if not there a contender for the 8

Any team from 7-12 can fill 7th and 8th

Grand Final
Sydney V Port

Premiers
Could go either way
Unlucky? Mate they got flogged by 11 goals!
Not unlucky at all just got creamed by a better team & that's fact!
 
1. 72. Hawthorn
2. 68. North Melbourne
3. 68. Sydney
4. 64. Fremantle
5. 64. Port Adelaide
6. 52. Richmond
7. 52. Collingwood
8. 48. Geelong
9. 44. Adelaide
10. 44. Carlton
11. 44. West Coast
12. 40. Brisbane
13. 40. Gold Coast
14. 32. Essendon
15. 28. GWS
16. 24. Western Bulldogs
17. 16. St. Kilda
18. 16. Melbourne
 
Port
Sydney
North Melbourne
Freo
Hawks
Geelong
Richmond
Gold Coast
------------
West Coast
Bulldogs
Adelaide
Collingwood
Essendon
GWS
Carlton
Brisbane
Melbourne
St Kilda
I made this just before the grand final and am gonna add some changes after trade period and all

1. Sydney (no reason why they should drop)
2. Port (few questions regarding their depth, but an exciting you team and proven they can bring the goods)
3. Hawthorn (dynasty)
4. Freo (they should have a similar season, they can't drop as many games though)
5. Gold Coast (new coach, should do well, Ablett needs to stay fit)
6. North Melbourne (Same position as last year, similar year)
7. Geelong (plenty of games at Simonds, they aren't gonna miss finals)
8. Adelaide (great list, if new coach goes well they will be there)
9. West Coast (It's a toss up between them and crows for 8th, they have to much faith in their midfield though, it's crap)
10. Bulldogs (Boyd to go well, exciting young list)
11. Richmond (they're not as good as people think, but could potentially go alright)
12. Collingwood (the prince has abandoned ship, panic stations)
13. Brisbane (Beams isn't gonna save everything)
14. Carlton (Not sure about this)
15. GWS (growing)
16. Melbourne (rabble)
17. St Kilda (28)

I've left Essendon off purely because it is pure speculation whether they will have players to compete, they could finish last or they could finish top 8. Who knows.
 
Unlucky? Mate they got flogged by 11 goals!
Not unlucky at all just got creamed by a better team & that's fact!
They were unlucky......to have played Hawthorn on Grand Final day.
 
Sydney
Port
Hawks
Freo
North
Geelong
Adelaide
Collingwood
-------------------
Gold Coast
Carlton
West Coast
Richmond
Brisbane
Essendon
G.W.S
Bulldogs
Melbourne
Saints
 
Unlucky? Mate they got flogged by 11 goals!
Not unlucky at all just got creamed by a better team & that's fact!
Ok I know it wasn't just unlucky, it was just as if it was like the Sydney was just a whole new team
 
Unlucky? Mate they got flogged by 11 goals!
Not unlucky at all just got creamed by a better team & that's fact!
Ok I know it wasn't just unlucky, it was just as if it was like Sydney was just a whole new team
 
I expect it to look like this at the end of the H&A.

1. Hawthorn -
2. Gold Coast -
3. Port Adelaide
4. Sydney
5. Fremantle
6. Adelaide
7. North Melbourne
8. Geelong
-----------------------------
9. Richmond
10. West Coast
11. Brisbane
12. Collingwood
13. GWS
14. Carlton
15. Melbourne
16. Bulldogs
17. Essendon
18. St Kilda

FINALS
Week 1
Fremantle def Geelong
Adelaide def North
Hawthorn def Sydney
Port Adelaide def Gold Coast

Week 2
Sydney def Fremantle
Suns def Adelaide

Week 3
Port Adelaide def Sydney
Hawthorn def Gold Coast

Grand Final
Hawthorn def Port Adelaide
 

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