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Either Menadue or Langdon would've been nice, certainly a lot faster than Lamb and Nelson.
Wish that we added at least one genuinely fast player out of the four.
Well, at least we still have Maggie and Muzza.
It's not too late, we could still take him in the rookie draft, we do need to eventually replace our #1 midfielder.They are a sensitive bunch
I half suspected we would pick up Hardisty and glad we didn't.
"Lamb is a bit similar to Jack Watts. He has a lean body and avoids body contact in contested situations. He’s a reliable lead up target, but doesn’t quite have all the tricks of a high class key forward. Lamb is really athletic, and can run all day if he wants, but he doesn’t quite have the work ethic yet."
http://boundforglorynews.com/2014-draft-profile-tom-lamb/
Interesting that we did indeed go with five midfielders, the first three being genuinely versatile also. Two of them can equally play in defense, while Lamb and even Cavka could play as forwards.
I'm pretty comfortable with Duggan. It's important to remember that he is a few weeks shy of being eligible for the 2015 draft. You're probably better off comparing him physically to how these draftees looked last season. To me he looks like he has the frame to become quite a solidly built midfielder, he has a good foundation. If he becomes a genuine outside midfielder he could become a star.
My only concern is that our future midfield may comprise of three very similarly profiled mids in Sheed, Waterman & Duggan. I think Duggan projects the highest of the three though. He really does have probably the best skills in the draft. I think even if he plays predominantly on a back flank - these types of players are bloody important in the gameplan Simpson is trying to employ. He's talked before about how important guys like Suckling and Birchall are for a defense. Guys who can launch attacks from defense. At the very least Duggan, Ellis and Hurn could be a very damaging backline trio over the next few years.
Lamb was far from a favourite of mine heading into the day. I'm not really sure what sort of player he is going to turn into and his hair annoys me. However, I recognise he was a great value selection where he was and we certainly don't have many of his type - which is the main appeal. I think best case scenario he is a strong marking half forward cum wingman. If he gets a sensible haircut I will warm to him.
Nelson has some very nice attributes. It seems in O'Brien's comments on him they definitely see him as a midfielder. The ability to play in defense will be ultra important for him also. Adding Duggan & Nelson to our defensive stocks certainly makes them look healthier after our recent cleanout. Cavka I'm not hugely well versed on but cannot deny he was a value selection at 66 where I had previously heard he was around the mark at Collingwood's 30.
Finally - Duggan is a good looking kid that will look fantastic in royal wings. Little to no homo.
I'm pretty comfortable with Duggan. It's important to remember that he is a few weeks shy of being eligible for the 2015 draft. You're probably better off comparing him physically to how these draftees looked last season. To me he looks like he has the frame to become quite a solidly built midfielder, he has a good foundation. If he becomes a genuine outside midfielder he could become a star.
My only concern is that our future midfield may comprise of three very similarly profiled mids in Sheed, Waterman & Duggan. I think Duggan projects the highest of the three though. He really does have probably the best skills in the draft. I think even if he plays predominantly on a back flank - these types of players are bloody important in the gameplan Simpson is trying to employ. He's talked before about how important guys like Suckling and Birchall are for a defense. Guys who can launch attacks from defense. At the very least Duggan, Ellis and Hurn could be a very damaging backline trio over the next few years.
Lamb was far from a favourite of mine heading into the day. I'm not really sure what sort of player he is going to turn into and his hair annoys me. However, I recognise he was a great value selection where he was and we certainly don't have many of his type - which is the main appeal. I think best case scenario he is a strong marking half forward cum wingman. If he gets a sensible haircut I will warm to him.
Nelson has some very nice attributes. It seems in O'Brien's comments on him they definitely see him as a midfielder. The ability to play in defense will be ultra important for him also. Adding Duggan & Nelson to our defensive stocks certainly makes them look healthier after our recent cleanout. Cavka I'm not hugely well versed on but cannot deny he was a value selection at 66 where I had previously heard he was around the mark at Collingwood's 30.
Finally - Duggan is a good looking kid that will look fantastic in royal wings. Little to no homo.
Historically WC have never had much trouble keeping Vics or any other type of Aussie. Brauny was from Echuca, he stayed, Judd is the only real example that shines out, but he did a great thing for the club. K Stevens was a minor speedbump.
I am never worried when WC choose from beyond the state.
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If we get Markov in the rookie draft I will declare this in our top 5 drafts of all time.
we have midfielders coming out of our arses now.would have to someone very special I think
which one will get tatts and rap?If their AFL careers dont quite workout, they could start a boyband
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The more I think about this draft the more happy I am with it. Absolutely awesome draft for us.
Not sure I can support the second part of the equation. Freo reinforced their strength and cannot believe they went Weller instead of Lever or Goddard or Durdin at 13.
How does stacking up on 5 great potential midfield that all offer points of difference is not address our list deficiencies?
If we rookie Lucas it will blunten it somewhat though. Do we have one rookie pick? Or two?
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Not sure. Really have no need for Lucas.
Quality kicks are easy to see but kids who aren't quality kicks may be so for a number of reasons such as ball drop, leg swing, head position etc. some are easier to fix than others so when you look at Lamb you will see a great dichotomy between his best and worst. That tells the recruiters that there is something to work with. But he is such a talent it's worth a shot. Nelson is better than just OK in his kicking as is Cavka.
As to Cockatoo - well we'll never know
Exactly my reasoning for why I knew we'd take Doug
We only have 1 rookie pick. Sitting as rookies (Cat A) are Newman, Powell and Maginness and with 40 players on the main list, we are allowed 4.
I would like to look at Keitel for the rookie pick. We have a track record of banking a tall and missing out on the main draft may be enough to clip his reported arrogance.
Tyler Keitel (East Perth)
Born 7.2.1996, 194cm, 86kg
AFL biography: Tall forward who provided a strong marking target up forward and has good speed to get space off his opponent. Averaged 6.2 marks and 15.8 disposals as Western Australia's most dangerous forward during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Can also transition into defence when called upon with great effect making him an extremely versatile footballer.
Raff Guadagnino, WAFL: "Tyler is probably the most professional player in our group. He leaves no stone unturned and he really plans everything out and make sure his training, his recovery, all the little things are done well. He's been seen as a tall forward but he could easily be manufactured into one of those players who plays well at both ends. He's a really nice kid who just wants to play well and has a great mindset."
Bondy - are you happy? There are a number on the board who are looking at the portfolio of 5 and see that we have picked up some real quality who each bring a great point of difference. With the picks we had, I was delighted with the overall list additions.
Exactly.
Duggan - Luke Hodge style player who can play back / mid / forward
Lamb - 192 cm lightening bolt who can play anywhere but ruck
Nelson - dual sided half back / mid
Cavka - quick half forward / outside mid
Waterman - big bodied inside mid
Freo have gone tall in the last two drafts but I was astounded they overlooked Lever, Goddard and a couple of other top line talls. Its not as if the talls they have drafted have impressed that much.
Cripps or Keitel - either worthy of a rookie
Lol. I've hear people describe Duggan as Mitchell, Pendlebury, Gaff and Dal Santo.
Fwiw, he's nothing like Mitchell
Dougie Hawkins who coached Liam Duggan compare's him to the late Robbie Flower which is a big expectation , just based on the fact he has it all ....just needs to make the most of his skills and attitude like any of the draftee's !
The good thing about the draft is that we drafted the five midfielders and in one season of drafting Adam Simpson plus the recruiters have addressed a need . If current midfielders don't produce in the next season or two there would / should be a group pushing up for there place in the team .
The good thing about the draft is that we drafted the five midfielders and in one season of drafting Adam Simpson plus the recruiters have addressed a need . If current midfielders don't produce in the next season or two there would / should be a group pushing up for there place in the team .
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Agree, now my anger has subsided I'm quite happy about it
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