List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Period

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2022 AFL Trade Period

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 10, 29, 49, 66
List changes:
Out: Hayes, McDonald, Newnes, Parks, Stocker, Williamson, (Jones), Setterfield
In: Blake Acres
Uncontracted: 1 - Ed Curnow - new deal pending (Fogarty confirmed contracted for 2023)
List status: Senior - 33 (inc. Owies); Rookie - 5; Cat-B Rookie - 1; Free spots - 4 (plus one Cat-B)

Key Dates

Draft Nominations: OPEN
Mon 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Mon 21-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close

The Draft:
Mon 28-Nov
7.10pm: National Draft Round One; Bidding on F/S, Academy & NGA
Tue 29-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
10pm - 11.00pm: Rookie Upgrade period
10pm - 11.00pm: Delisted Free Agency Period 3
Wed 30-Nov
3pm: Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: Rookie Draft
Thu 1-Dec
by 4pm: Final Club list lodgment

Delisted Free Agency Periods 1 & 2: CLOSED
Thu 03-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Wed 09-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes
Fri 11-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences
Tue 15-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 03-Oct 9am: Trade Period commences – Players & Selections
Wed 12-Oct 7.30pm: Trade Period closes – player trades
Tue 15-Nov 5.00pm: Trade Period closes – selections only

RFA and UFA: CLOSED
Fri 30-Sep 9am: Restricted Free Agency (RFA) and Unrestricted Free Agency (UFA) Period commences
Fri 07-Oct 5pm: Close of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.
Mon 10-Oct 5pm: Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends
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Completed Trades:

Fri 30-Sep:
1 Karl Amon (PA) to Hawthorn (UFA) Port Adelaide receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 27).
Mon 3-Oct:
2 Bobby Hill (GWS) to Collingwood GWS receive Pies' future 2nd round pick. Also swap of 3rd round picks - Pies get pick GWS pick 41, for their pick 44.
3 Tim Taranto (GWS) to Richmond GWS receive Tigers 1st round pick, and Tigers 2nd round pick from NM (currently picks 12 and 19).
4 Jayden Hunt (Mel) to West Coast (UFA) Melbourne receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 54).
Tue 4-Oct:
5 Blake Acres (Freo) to CARLTON Fremantle receive Carlton's future 3rd round pick.
6 Daniel McStay (Bris) to Collingwood (RFA) Brisbane receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 35).
7 Liam Jones (CARLTON) to Western Bulldogs (UFA) CARLTON receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 49).
8 Pick trade: Melbourne picks 33 (R2), 43 (R3), 53 (R3) to Port Adelaide for pick 27 (R2)
Wed 5-Oct:
9 Zaine Cordy (WBU) to St Kilda (UFA) No compensation for Western Bulldogs (due to taking UFA Liam Jones)
10 Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker (Freo) to North Melbourne. Fremantle receive Future 2nd and 3rd picks (AFL assistance package for NM). Additionally, NM gains Freo's Future 3rd pick in exchange for North's future 4th pick.
11 Pick trade: GWS trade pick their second round pick (currently 21) and future Rd 2 pick to Brisbane for their 1st round pick (currently 15)
12 Ben Long (StK) to Gold Coast St Kilda receive 2nd round pick (currently 32), with the Saints' future 4th round pick going back to the Suns.
13 Tom Berry (Bris) to Gold Coast Brisbane receive 2 x Rd 2 picks (currently 25 and 36), and a 3rd rd pick (56). Suns get Brisbane's 3rd rd (46) and GWS future 2nd round pick.
Thu 6-Oct:
14 Josh Corbett (GCS) to Fremantle Gold Coast receive Freo's future round 4 selection.
Fri 7-Oct:
15 Tanner Bruhn (GWS) to Geelong GWS receive Geelong's first round pick (Currently pick 18)
16 Pick trade: Geelong Rd 2 pick (currently 38), two x Rd 3 picks (48, 55), and future 2nd and 4th picks to Brisbane for their Rd 2 pick (25).
Mon 10-Oct:
17 Toby Bedford (Mel) to GWS. Melbourne receive GWS Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44).
18 Luke Jackson (Mel) to Fremantle . Melbourne receive Fremantle's 1st round pick (currently 13) and future 1st and 2nd round picks. Fremantle also receive Melbourne's Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44), and 4th round pick (tied to StK - 67).
19 Will Setterfield (CARLTON) to Essendon. Carlton receive Essendon's future 4th round pick. Essendon also receive Carlton's 4th rd pick (currently 68).
20 Izak Rankine (GCS) to Adelaide. Suns gain Adelaide's 1st rd pick (currently 5) and future 3rd and 4th picks. Adelaide also receive Suns' Rd 3 pick (tied to PA - currently 46) and future 4th pick (tied to Freo).
21 "Mega deal"
North Melbourne:
Out - Pick 1, Jason Horne-Francis, Future 3rd (Freo)
In - Picks 2 (WCE), 3 (GWS), 40 (WCE), 43 (PA - from Ade), Future 1st (PA)
West Coast:
Out - Pick 2, 40, Junior Rioli
In - Pick 8 (PA), 12 (GWS from Rich), Future 2nd (PA), Future 3rd (PA)
Port Adelaide:
Out - Pick 8, 43 (Ade), 53 (Mel), 57 (Syd), Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 3rd
In - Jason Horne-Francis, Junior Rioli, Future 2nd (GWS tied to Col), Future 3rd (NM tied to Freo)
GWS:
Out - Pick 3, 12 (from Rich), Future 2nd (Col)
In - Pick 1, 53 (PA from Mel), 57 (PA from Syd)
Tue 11-Oct:
22 Jack Gunston (Haw) to Brisbane. Hawthorn receive Rd 3 pick from Brisbane (currently 48 - tied to Carlton) and Brisbane's future 4th rd pick.
23 Brodie Grundy (Col) to Melbourne. Collingwood receive Melbourne's Rd 2 pick (currently 27) in exchange.
24 Billy Frampton (Ade) to Collingwood. Adelaide receive Collingwood's future 3rd round pick.
25 Jack Bowes (GCS) to Geelong. Geelong also receive Gold Coast's pick 7. Gold Coast receive Geelong's future 3rd round pick.
26 Jacob Hopper (GWS) to Richmond. GWS receive Richmond's Rd 2 pick (currently 31) and future 1st round pick. Richmond also receive GWS 3rd rd pick (tied to Melb, currently 53), and GWS 4th rd pick (tied to Adelaide, currently 63).
Wed 12-Oct:
27 Aaron Francis (Ess) to Sydney. Sydney also receive Essendon's pick 42. Essendon receive Sydney's pick 37 and future 4th Rd pick.
28 Sam Weideman (Mel) to Essendon. Melbourne receive Essendon's pick 37. Essendon also receive Melbourne's picks 54 and 72.
29 Josh Schache (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 4th round pick.
30 Lachie Hunter (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 3rd round pick.
31 Josh Dunkley (WBU) to Brisbane. Western Bulldogs receive pick 21 along with Brisbane's future 1st and 2nd round picks, and Geelong's future 4th. Brisbane also receive the Bulldog's future 3rd and a future 3rd tied to Melbourne.
32 Ollie Henry (Coll) to Geelong. Cooper Stephens (Gee) to Hawthorn. Tom Mitchell (Haw) to Collingwood. Collingwood also receive pick 25 from Geelong. Hawthorn receive picks 41 and 50 from Collingwood.
33 Rory Lobb (Freo) to Western Bulldogs. Fremantle receive pick 30 and Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.
34 Jaeger O'Meara (Haw) to Fremantle. Lloyd Meek (Fre) to Hawthorn. Fremantle receive Hawthorn's future 4th round pick. Hawthorn receive Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.

Post Trade-week Trades (Selections only):
35 Oct 21: Pick Trade: The Brisbane Lions trade its Round Three Selection (56) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection (tied to Fremantle)
36 Oct 21: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trade its Round Four Selection (59) and Future Round Two Selection to the Adelaide Crows for its Round Two Selection (23).
37 Nov 15: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trades round three selection (43) to Fremantle for Fremantle's future round four selection (tied to Hawthorn).

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Missed Out on trades:
Matt Crouch (Ade) - Adelaide looking to find him a new home.
James Rowe (Ade) - Possible move to Western Bulldogs.
Fischer McAsey (Ade) - Possible move to Carlton. Carlton apparently no longer interested.
Paddy Dow (Car) - Possible move to NM, Gee.
Caleb Poulter (Col) - Possible move to Gold Coast.
Nick Bryan (Ess) - Possible move, perhaps to Saints.
Brayden Ham (Ess) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Liam Henry (Freo) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but is contracted.
Jeremy Sharp (GCS) - Possible move to Freo
Brayden Fiorini (GCS) - Possible move to Collingwood
Esava Ratugolea (Gee) - Several clubs interested. Geelong open to move. Perhaps GWS.
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Nick Haynes (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Kozzy Pickett (Mel) - Possible move to Port Adelaide. Melbourne say not happening.
Adam Tomlinson (Mel) - Melbourne open to move.
James Harmes (Mel) - Possible move to Essendon (and others). Melbourne say not happening.
Tarryn Thomas (NM) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, possibly GCS.
Martin Frederick (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Mitch Georgiades (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Sam Hayes (PA) - Contracted, but Port may be open to offers elsewhere.
Ivan Soldo (Rich) - Possible move to GWS.
Jack Graham (Rich) - Likely now to stay at Richmond after exploring PA.
Riley Collier-Dawkins (Rich) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Jack Bytel (StK) - Essendon interested.
Hunter Clark (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Brad Hill (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Lewis Mellican (Syd) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
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DFA and Retiree moves
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Freo, as SSP
Conor McKenna (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Gee in rookie draft
Liam Stocker (ex-Car) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Ciaran Byrne (ex-Car) - Possible return to Carlton as Cat-B Rookie - 5-Oct: Not happening, stays in Ireland
Francis Evans (ex-Gee) - Possible DFA to Port Adelaide
Quinton Narkle (ex-Gee) - DFA, several clubs interested
Kyle Hartigan (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to St Kilda
Tom Phillips (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Dan Hanneberry (ex-StK) - NM interested in bringing him out of retirement
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Draft Order and selection summary


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Wickzki said:
In my opinion they'll still come out well ahead.

A current B&F, the consensus #1 pick in the draft, another highly touted academy player and a premiership winning veteran who understands the system he's moving into?

That's worth gambling one draft for when they believe they wont have a high pick to begin with.
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Winners of the trade period imo with Geelong.
 
Bletch said:
Brisbane's trade result is interesting. On the surface, a fantastic result for them, picking up Gunston and Dunkley, who will surely provide them a boost, and keep them in contention next year. But I can understand why the Dunkley deal took till the last minute. The loss of pick 21 will hurt them.

They are left with 7 picks between 34 and 73, providing a points total of 2441. They'll be hoping like hell that GWS do not bid on Ashcroft, as it will take 2400 points to match. If the bid comes at pick 2, it's a more reasonable 2014 to match, anything lower and they're sitting pretty. If a bid on Fletcher comes at say pick 20, it'll be another 751 points to match.

However, they won't be able to use the full 2441 points.

They have 36 primary list players (3 of which are uncontracted). They have 3 Rookie-A list players.

If they delist the 3 that are uncontracted, that will still give them only 5 picks at the draft (38-33). They may be able to move one contracted player to the rookie list to get a 6th pick perhaps.

But if it's only 5 picks, their current draft hand would yield 2238 points. If they can get the 6th pick, then only pick 73 is wasted, and it's only worth 9 points, so they'll have 2432 to spend.

Either way, it's highly likely they'll go into points debt in 2023. And their 2023 draft hand is also very weak.

So, lets say they have 2238 points. Bids for Ashcroft and Fletcher come in at 2 and 20. That's 2729 to match, incurring a debt for next year of 489 points. That would make their 2023 draft hand an unimpressive 49, 52 and 53. Limiting in both their ability to trade, and their draft options. Let alone if there are more academy kids next year!

So, while they've done well with the players they've traded in, and they'll get both Ashcroft and Fletcher, their 3rd pick this year will be at the back end of the draft, and their 2023 draft is heavily compromised.
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I think they'll create at least the 6 list spots.
And then after the picks for Ashcroft are wiped, their later picks do come in a bit and increase in points value.

Certainly they'll be hoping for as later bids as possible.
 
So the Hawks lose Mitchell and O'Meara, who average a total of 48 disposals per game combined.
They lose Gunston, who was 3rd on their goal kicking tally with 32.

Odds they finish lower than 2022 - 8 wins?
 
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skadoosh said:
So the Hawks lose Mitchell and O'Meara, who average a total of 48 disposals per game combined.
They lose Gunston, who was 3rd on their list with 32.

Odds they finish lower than 2022 - 8 wins?
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bottom 2 likely few 2023 & 24 imo.

clarko's era denied the draft and kept trying to top up ala Geelong but the replacements were too expensive and never matched the output of the players they replaced. This is a necessary revisit to the draft and unlike us in 2015 have no Tuohy or Henderson to cash-in so the pain deferred is worsened.
 
Interesting trade period for us, and the quietest we have been for a while, which may be a good thing. Signing up all of Cripps, Charlie and Harry to long term deals (and allieviating that free agency threat) is probably as significant and important to any "trade in" any other club did in the period. Keep this core group together for 5 -7 years and that stability of our list will be important.

Our "elite" players are as good as any in the competition with Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Doc, Saad, Charlie, and Harry.

Setterfield and Stocker are our only real loses. Not sure what happened with Stocker as he looked good to me. Acknowledge though that the club knows more than me.

Hopefully we can really hit the draft well over the next couple of years.
 
Wickzki said:
In my opinion they'll still come out well ahead.

A current B&F, the consensus #1 pick in the draft, another highly touted academy player and a premiership winning veteran who understands the system he's moving into?

That's worth gambling one draft for when they believe they wont have a high pick to begin with.
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They have another Ashcroft coming through in 2024 so they might look to trade out of that draft to get back into 2023
 
skadoosh said:
So the Hawks lose Mitchell and O'Meara, who average a total of 48 disposals per game combined.
They lose Gunston, who was 3rd on their list with 32.

Odds they finish lower than 2022 - 8 wins?
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A lower finish is the plan. They are trying to fast track their rebuild before Tassie expansion. They will not sweat a spoon. They have some good kids, but it is perilous cutting so deeply. Reckon they will attempt a raid on the Suns next year for their midfield leader. Wickzki might be acquainted with the likely target.
 
Wickzki said:
In my opinion they'll still come out well ahead.

A current B&F, the consensus #1 pick in the draft, another highly touted academy player and a premiership winning veteran who understands the system he's moving into?

That's worth gambling one draft for when they believe they wont have a high pick to begin with.
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Reckon the Lions go into 2023, near enough to premiership favourites.
 
Bletch said:
Brisbane's trade result is interesting. On the surface, a fantastic result for them, picking up Gunston and Dunkley, who will surely provide them a boost, and keep them in contention next year. But I can understand why the Dunkley deal took till the last minute. The loss of pick 21 will hurt them.

They are left with 7 picks between 34 and 73, providing a points total of 2441. They'll be hoping like hell that GWS do not bid on Ashcroft, as it will take 2400 points to match. If the bid comes at pick 2, it's a more reasonable 2014 to match, anything lower and they're sitting pretty. If a bid on Fletcher comes at say pick 20, it'll be another 751 points to match.

However, they won't be able to use the full 2441 points.

They have 36 primary list players (3 of which are uncontracted). They have 3 Rookie-A list players.

If they delist the 3 that are uncontracted, that will still give them only 5 picks at the draft (38-33). They may be able to move one contracted player to the rookie list to get a 6th pick perhaps.

But if it's only 5 picks, their current draft hand would yield 2238 points. If they can get the 6th pick, then only pick 73 is wasted, and it's only worth 9 points, so they'll have 2432 to spend.

Either way, it's highly likely they'll go into points debt in 2023. And their 2023 draft hand is also very weak.

So, lets say they have 2238 points. Bids for Ashcroft and Fletcher come in at 2 and 20. That's 2729 to match, incurring a debt for next year of 489 points. That would make their 2023 draft hand an unimpressive 49, 52 and 53. Limiting in both their ability to trade, and their draft options. Let alone if there are more academy kids next year!

So, while they've done well with the players they've traded in, and they'll get both Ashcroft and Fletcher, their 3rd pick this year will be at the back end of the draft, and their 2023 draft is heavily compromised.
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GWS would know this - so what do you think GWS will do - bid at #1 or not? :think:
 
JuddgementDay said:
GWS would know this - so what do you think GWS will do - bid at #1 or not? :think:
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This is a really interesting question... GWS also have picks 15, 18 and 19. If they really fancied Fletcher, they might bid on Ashcroft at 1, making it very difficult for Brisbane to match a bid for Fletcher at say, 15.

But I really don't think they will. They've gone to extraordinary lengths to get pick #1, and must have a particular player in mind for that pick. They wouldn't take the risk that Brisbane might say 'no' to matching Ashcroft, and end up with him instead of their intended target (Cadman almost certainly).
 
Bletch said:
This is a really interesting question... GWS also have picks 15, 18 and 19. If they really fancied Fletcher, they might bid on Ashcroft at 1, making it very difficult for Brisbane to match a bid for Fletcher at say, 15.

But I really don't think they will. They've gone to extraordinary lengths to get pick #1, and must have a particular player in mind for that pick. They wouldn't take the risk that Brisbane might say 'no' to matching Ashcroft, and end up with him instead of their intended target (Cadman almost certainly).
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Who is actually ranked higher anyway Ashcroft or Cadman?
If GWS rate Ashcroft higher - why wouldn't they bid and test Brisbane out?
 
I’m sick of clubs not bidding on F/S or Academy players when they should be bid on, Daicos last year was criminal.

You make your opposition pay for their good fortune, at all times. There’s zero chance Brisbane wont match at pick 1 and 15 onwards for Fletcher.


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What does it mean when someone says, "Top 4 or top 6 next year otherwise it's a fail"?

Are we closing up shop next year if indeed 2023 is deemed as a "failed" year... or does it mean we rebuild...? Or what?

Explain to me what "failed" means thanks and the consequences of a failed 2023 please?
 
So we still have our first 2 picks this year and next, added a player to the starting team - one who was mentioned in AA discussions during the year - and lost a couple of guys who weren’t best 22.

We’ve extended all our priorities in advance with only TDK remaining, will be in a better TPP position by replacing depth players (Setterfield, Newnes, Stocker, McDonald, Parks, Williamson, Hayes) and only bringing in one senior player on a very reasonable contract and then adding the four draftees.

Pretty good period overall, will be interesting to see who we draft.
 
Bletch said:
This is a really interesting question... GWS also have picks 15, 18 and 19. If they really fancied Fletcher, they might bid on Ashcroft at 1, making it very difficult for Brisbane to match a bid for Fletcher at say, 15.

But I really don't think they will. They've gone to extraordinary lengths to get pick #1, and must have a particular player in mind for that pick. They wouldn't take the risk that Brisbane might say 'no' to matching Ashcroft, and end up with him instead of their intended target (Cadman almost certainly).
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They'll definitely just go into deficit for 2023. Nothing surer. They wont let Ashcroft of Fletcher get away.
 
BrisbaneCFC said:
They'll definitely just go into deficit for 2023. Nothing surer. They wont let Ashcroft of Fletcher get away.
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And they won’t care. Brought in one of the top rated draftees, another 1st rounder, the dogs B&F winner and a smart (but ageing) 3rd tall fwd who is a reliable kick for goal (unlike their other talls).
 
Jeremias said:
Paying Warnock minimum wage is overpaying Warnock. He was horrendous.
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We should have left Warnock on the shelf and kept Sauce... Sauce and Kreuzer as our primary rucks with Hampson as the backup ruck/forward would have been awesome.

But... we didn't know how s**t Warnock was going to be back 2009. We should have realised it when he had ankle surgery and suffered foot stress fractures in the preseason and missed pretty much the entire year.
 
Dramoth said:
We should have left Warnock on the shelf and kept Sauce... Sauce and Kreuzer as our primary rucks with Hampson as the backup ruck/forward would have been awesome.

But... we didn't know how s**t Warnock was going to be back 2009. We should have realised it when he had ankle surgery and suffered foot stress fractures in the preseason and missed pretty much the entire year.
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Was a foolish move chasing RW. We needed a 27 - 30 yr old ruck not another developing one
 
Blues_1864 said:
Four top-20 picks in 2009 -- Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, and Tapscott -- and 12 years later, a flag! What's not to like?
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That year was a super impressive year really. Such an overwhelming amount of talent. Looking at it, I'm not feeling so bad about us taking Kane Lucas at 12.
 
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