not sure about cummins really. can he continuously get through 10 overs a match
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Need strike bowlers but you probably play MJ at that role in the top side. Good backup and a mile better than Richardson at least!
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Good one.
10 overs 2/45 and 34 off 19 to win the game from Faulkner.
How people continue to not rate him is beyond me. Averages more with the bat and less with the ball than most ODI players.
What are people's thoughts on Watson? Seems a shadow of his former self with both bat and ball. He has not got to 50 in over 12 months (had a few injuries). Is his spot safe?
Don't be surprised if Lyon plays the Jnauary games. I suspect that because he is often a defensive bowler in Tests (I still thnk that's partly on Clarke's captaincy) not putting him in the ODI side now makes sense.
He needs to be confident giving the ball more air for Test cricket. He can gain that in the Shield, but not in ODIs - and certainly not ODIs in Australia where almost every spinner has a containing role only in the limited game.
edit: Although I'm not sure when WC squads have to be named. I assume 15 man squads.
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Probably for T20. Its far from a sure thing in any format that might require anything other than pure hitting.
It's not 'people' not rating him, so much as the selectors seem to have him behind a few others. It's a shame, I'm not sure why apart from a lull in form with the ball.
We would have won that comfortably with Richardson in the side...
Faulkner is a bunny.
Maxwell was in our best side. He isn't anymore, his form doesn't warrant selection.
Faulkner is a bunny.
Maxwell was in our best side. He isn't anymore, his form doesn't warrant selection.
All I'll say is Clarke shouldn't have been bothering with ANY odis the last couple of years and certainly shouldn't be wasting his time on next years world cup. Tests only.
no there's plenty of us who don't really rate his bowling. a quick fire 35 off 20 doesn't change much in that respect. hazelwood and cummins now storming into WC contention changes things much more
(and faulkner's quick fire 35 off 20 was the best quick fire 30 odd off 20 balls since maxwell 3 games ago)
I like Faulks. I like his competitive nature.
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What don't you rate about his bowling?
Maxwell's 29 off 19 in the 1st ODI came in the first innings once we had already established a reasonable score. He made nothing in the 2nd ODI when we were struggling to post a score then made nothing in the 4th ODI when we were chasing.
Most of the time he bowls at the death he gets spanked.
Even the biggest Faulkner fans have to admit that he leaks too many runs, especially at the death. And with the likes of Johnson and Hazlewood used as strike bowlers, if Faulkner plays, he has to bowl at the death regularly. I don't think he's a bad bowler, but their are better option. It's just a matter of whether we think his batting at 8 is enough to warrant his selection, knowing he goes more runs than other options.
I love watching Faulkner play, so I just hope he can improve his death bowling, otherwise it's hard to pick a bloke as a specialist number 8, although he does it better than anyone.
I love watching Faulkner play, so I just hope he can improve his death bowling, otherwise it's hard to pick a bloke as a specialist number 8, although he does it better than anyone.
I don't care about the death thing. In modern day OD cricket it's foolish to expect good death bowlers. You can only hope to avoid the terrible ones like Cutting. Faulkner isn't at that level, but like Clint McKay, I don't think he's particularly special, particularly threatening and feel his variations will/can get found out against the better players. I don't think he's one of the best bowlers you can pick. You've got Johnson, Starc, NCN, Richardson, Hazlewood, Cummins, Harris and hell McKay too who are all in with a good shout with being picked over Faulkner's bowling. When Mitch/Maxwell is at 6, I don't think Faulkner at 8 is the right team to pick. I don't think he should be picked as a bowling all-rounder
With that said, I had no problem with Faulkner being at 6 in the other series recently and I would have had no problem with him being at 6 today with Richardson/Doherty etc getting a game and I do feel there's something threatening about his batting.
With that said, I had no problem with Faulkner being at 6 in the other series recently and I would have had no problem with him being at 6 today with Richardson/Doherty etc getting a game and I do feel there's something threatening about his batting.
I have no problem with him being at 6 either. This is why I've hoped they'd give him more chances up the order but they appear more interested in Marsh for that.
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Most players who bowl at the death get spanked.
Held his nerve again tonight when our batsmen lost the plot. Faulkner.
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Something like this for the World Cup squad?
BAILEY, George
BOYCE, Cameron
CUMMINS, Patrick
FAULKNER, James
FINCH, Aaron
HAZLEWOOD, Josh
JOHNSON, Mitchell
MARSH, Mitch
MAXWELL, Glenn
SMITH, Steve
STARC, Mitchell
WADE, Matthew
WARNER, David
WATSON, Shane
WHITE, Cameron
No Harris or Clarke. White and Boyce the bolters, Boyce could get a run against certain nations like England. Hazlewood the depth bowler. I've probably forgotten somebody (or two).
BAILEY, George
BOYCE, Cameron
CUMMINS, Patrick
FAULKNER, James
FINCH, Aaron
HAZLEWOOD, Josh
JOHNSON, Mitchell
MARSH, Mitch
MAXWELL, Glenn
SMITH, Steve
STARC, Mitchell
WADE, Matthew
WARNER, David
WATSON, Shane
WHITE, Cameron
No Harris or Clarke. White and Boyce the bolters, Boyce could get a run against certain nations like England. Hazlewood the depth bowler. I've probably forgotten somebody (or two).
White no chance in hell, if they haven't him picked at all since the last World Cup despite a couple of great years of Domestic cricket, they are not going to suddenly throw him in for the World Cup
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It's a long shot, but he'd make mine every day of the week.
If we are serious about the world cup we should play Harris as he is a good bit better than the rest of the bowlers we have. Clarke on the other hand isn't that much better an ODI batsmen as we have floating around so i wouldn't play him.
Warner
Finch
Watson
Smith
Marsh
Bailey
Wade
Johnson
Cummins
Starc
Harris
Faulkner, Maxwell, White, Hazlewood, Boyce Should also be in the squad, I think they could all have a role to play.
Im worried about Watsons place in the side these days given his bowling has gone to S*** and he has batting issues. There is a distinct lack of spin in this side so if it was a more spin friendly pitch you could add Maxwell for a bat or Boyce for a Pacey.
Warner
Finch
Watson
Smith
Marsh
Bailey
Wade
Johnson
Cummins
Starc
Harris
Faulkner, Maxwell, White, Hazlewood, Boyce Should also be in the squad, I think they could all have a role to play.
Im worried about Watsons place in the side these days given his bowling has gone to S*** and he has batting issues. There is a distinct lack of spin in this side so if it was a more spin friendly pitch you could add Maxwell for a bat or Boyce for a Pacey.
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My world cup squad.
A.Finch
D.Warner
S.Watson
These three guys if on are the most dangerous top 3 in the world. The hard & relatively bouncy wickets should suit there strokeplay against the new ball. Warner probably has the most to prove in this format & needs to go on with his starts.
M.Clarke
S.Smith
G.Maxwell
Was out of Clarke or Bailey so either batsman was going to be stiff if left out. But to average 45 over 238 games how can you leave Clarke out? Smith is the rock of the side & can be relied upon. Maxwell only gets in because i believe we need an explosive batter at 6 & his off spin will be a point of difference.
M.Wade~ Just have a feeling his keeping is improving & would be a more stable batsman than Haddin.
J.Faulkner
M.Johnson
M.Starc
R.Harris
Just had to get Faulkner in this side with his hitting ability & decent bowling. Johnson & Harris would be the best opening pair going around. Starc is a great ODI bowler and can really bowl some cracking deliveries.
Have M.Marsh, G.Bailey & P.Cummins making up the numbers.
A.Finch
D.Warner
S.Watson
These three guys if on are the most dangerous top 3 in the world. The hard & relatively bouncy wickets should suit there strokeplay against the new ball. Warner probably has the most to prove in this format & needs to go on with his starts.
M.Clarke
S.Smith
G.Maxwell
Was out of Clarke or Bailey so either batsman was going to be stiff if left out. But to average 45 over 238 games how can you leave Clarke out? Smith is the rock of the side & can be relied upon. Maxwell only gets in because i believe we need an explosive batter at 6 & his off spin will be a point of difference.
M.Wade~ Just have a feeling his keeping is improving & would be a more stable batsman than Haddin.
J.Faulkner
M.Johnson
M.Starc
R.Harris
Just had to get Faulkner in this side with his hitting ability & decent bowling. Johnson & Harris would be the best opening pair going around. Starc is a great ODI bowler and can really bowl some cracking deliveries.
Have M.Marsh, G.Bailey & P.Cummins making up the numbers.
I think people are underestimating the need for deep batting lineups in ODI's these days. We get badly exposed from number 8 onwards without Faulkner in the team. You have to put up with the 10 extra runs he's going to leak with the ball compared to someone like Starc because Faulkner will give you a reliable 20-30+runs extra with the bat than Starc will. You've gotta play the percentages.
LukeParkerno1
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As long as you have a few 'batsmen' that can bowl a bit. Which is why Watson, Marsh and Smith are dead certainties, and why I get the Maxwell in our top side thing. Faulkner at 8 or 9 strengthens the batting. Then you have Johnson, Harris and Starc. All can bat.
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Starc is our 2nd best bowler. He plays. Maxwell batting at 8 is just as useful.
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