Australian ODI Squad - 2014/15

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Cleavy said:
10 players from the Matador One-Day Cup that could be bolters for spot in Australia’s World Cup squad (presumably written by a NSW follower)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/c...australias-squad/story-fni2usfi-1227102429337
Ben Cutting (Qld)
Cameron White (Vic)
Moises Henriques (NSW)
Nic Maddinson (NSW)
Callum Ferguson (SA)
Peter Nevill (NSW)
Josh Hazlewood (NSW)
Pat Cummins (NSW)
Sam Rainbird (Tas)
Gurinder Sandhu (NSW)

No WA players listed. Although I would have NCN ahead of Cutting.
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The one guy I was most impressed with had to go and get himself injured didn't he?

Joel Paris was the biggest bolter from an already large Tsunami of bowlers this country has at it's disposal at the moment
(speaking as a short form bowler and by no means a 4/5 day cricketer - yet!)
 
(joining in the argument here late anyways)

Why would Khawaja be forcing his way into an already strong top orderer?


Watson, Warner, Finch with Haddin and even Cameron White as back up to the openers.

Would love to see Cameron White be afforded an opportunity in the middle order as a finisher after a second stellar ODD season.
 
Yoda_ said:
The one guy I was most impressed with had to go and get himself injured didn't he?

Joel Paris was the biggest bolter from an already large Tsunami of bowlers this country has at it's disposal at the moment
(speaking as a short form bowler and by no means a 4/5 day cricketer - yet!)
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We need a tsunami of bowlers. The only one who stays on his pins for any length of time - and he's getting more injuries even so - is Johnson.
 

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Our fast bowling stocks aren't too bad

Tier 1
Johnson, Harris

Tier 2
Pattinson, Siddle, Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins

Tier 3
Hilfenhaus, Bollinger, Coulter-Nile

Tier 4
Behrendorff, Paris, Sayers

With one dayers Richardson, Abbott and Faulkner come in.

There are probably a few others I'm forgetting and these are just approximates of where I think the selectors rate the various bowlers.

It's the one area (along with keeping) that we have depth in
 
The_Reaper said:
Our fast bowling stocks aren't too bad

Tier 1
Johnson, Harris

Tier 2
Pattinson, Siddle, Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins

Tier 3
Hilfenhaus, Bollinger, Coulter-Nile

Tier 4
Behrendorff, Paris, Sayers

With one dayers Richardson, Abbott and Faulkner come in.

There are probably a few others I'm forgetting and these are just approximates of where I think the selectors rate the various bowlers.

It's the one area (along with keeping) that we have depth in
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In the one dayers (which is what the thread is about) I think we have a bit of a problem with the bowling attack.

Johnson, Harris and Starc are good strike bowlers in one dayers. The first two though obviously have to have their workloads managed which means missing a lot of ODIs. I can't recall Harris playing any at all recently.

Faulkner is the best death bowler when he is in form. I think he has struggled for bowling form from this years IPL on though. Then there is also the issue of overloading the attack with left armers.

Everyone outside Starc and NCN from the tier 2 and 3 listed are better longer form bowlers.

The one day side is definitely missing a reliable specialist one day quick which they have basically had with Bracken and McKay for the last 10 years.
 
Hamingja said:
In the one dayers (which is what the thread is about) I think we have a bit of a problem with the bowling attack.

Johnson, Harris and Starc are good strike bowlers in one dayers. The first two though obviously have to have their workloads managed which means missing a lot of ODIs. I can't recall Harris playing any at all recently.

Faulkner is the best death bowler when he is in form. I think he has struggled for bowling form from this years IPL on though. Then there is also the issue of overloading the attack with left armers.

Everyone outside Starc and NCN from the tier 2 and 3 listed are better longer form bowlers.

The one day side is definitely missing a reliable specialist one day quick which they have basically had with Bracken and McKay for the last 10 years.
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Faulkner is a horrid death bowler. He doesn't have the talent for international level.

It's why the selectors are experimenting with Richo
 
The_Reaper said:
Our fast bowling stocks aren't too bad

Tier 1
Johnson, Harris

Tier 2
Pattinson, Siddle, Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins

Tier 3
Hilfenhaus, Bollinger, Coulter-Nile

Tier 4
Behrendorff, Paris, Sayers

With one dayers Richardson, Abbott and Faulkner come in.

There are probably a few others I'm forgetting and these are just approximates of where I think the selectors rate the various bowlers.

It's the one area (along with keeping) that we have depth in
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Agree somewhat, but with Hazlewood and Cummins in tier three.
 
Hellgood said:
Agree somewhat, but with Hazlewood and Cummins in tier three.
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It's just my estimate of where the selectors have them

I expect Hazlewood to play the tests against India and Cummins is a wild card. If he proved any sort of fitness and took a bag in shield he'd probably find himself in the test team as soon as the selectors could make room for him.
 
After our likely first choice ODI bowling attack of Johnson, Harris (if fit) and Starc, I'd probably have Coulter-Nile as the next choice right now. If be more comfortable with him than Richardson and definitely Abbott.

After Coulter-Nile I think it's pretty close between Pattinson (if fit), Richardson, Cummins and Hazlewood.
 

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matty p said:
After our likely first choice ODI bowling attack of Johnson, Harris (if fit) and Starc, I'd probably have Coulter-Nile as the next choice right now. If be more comfortable with him than Richardson and definitely Abbott.

After Coulter-Nile I think it's pretty close between Pattinson (if fit), Richardson, Cummins and Hazlewood.
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Yeah not sure what happened with Patto in last summers ODIs, he's a much better option than Cutting, Hazelwood and Cummins. Would be wasteful if he's left as a long from specialist.
 
You blokes are on acid if you don't think Faulkner is in our best side. He has been our best finisher with the bat for 12 months now. Or have we already forgotten how good he was?

His bowling has been a little down because of a knee injury leading into the Zimbabwe series. Unlike all these NSW mallows, he has played through it and not put his hand up for some time on the sidelines.

He wants to be out there representing his country and he has done a fine job of it to date.

He's in that side, no question.
 
On the latest squad selected for the first two ODI's vs RSA it is fair to think that Brad Haddin deserves a rest, but how has Matthew Wade been selected over Chris Hartley? What a joke. Hartley makes the ODD Team of the Tournament, smashing runs at the top of the order and gets no recognition of his efforts and the selectors are rewarding the guys peforming at domestic level. What a staggering decision.
 
SpecialComments said:
On the latest squad selected for the first two ODI's vs RSA it is fair to think that Brad Haddin deserves a rest, but how has Matthew Wade been selected over Chris Hartley? What a joke. Hartley makes the ODD Team of the Tournament, smashing runs at the top of the order and gets no recognition of his efforts and the selectors are rewarding the guys peforming at domestic level. What a staggering decision.
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Hartley wasn't fantastic. Batted far too slowly and quite a few were questioning whether he should have been in the side. He's not a viable option at ODI level.
 
We'll his numbers are better than Haezlewood, NCN, Richardson, Cutting and Pattinson. All who are supposedly superior bowlers in 50 over cricket. Too many people are blinded by precocious talents at domestic level. Faulkner has runs in the board in internationals.

End of story.
 
bird_man said:
So is he going to bat in our top 6? If not, then his batting is just a bonus but if his bowling isn't good enough then he shouldn't be there. And his bowling has been pretty poor.
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Pretty poor since when?

All you're basing it on is the last series in Zimbabwe. Yes he was down, but he was carrying.
 
eth-dog said:
Hartley wasn't fantastic. Batted far too slowly and quite a few were questioning whether he should have been in the side. He's not a viable option at ODI level.
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Ummm How can you say that? Wade does not deseve his call up at all. Shocking decision I say again.

Hartley 8 innings, 403 runs at 57.57 striking at 83 with a high score of 142
Wade 6 innings, 101 runs at 16.83 striking at 63 with a high score of 60
 
Fwiw, this would be my World Cup side:

Finch
Warner
Watson
Clarke
Bailey
Maxwell
Haddin
Faulkner
Johnson
Starc
Harris

Smith
M.Marsh
Haezlewood

Johnson, Starc, Harris frontline on hard, bouncy tracks.

Faulkner, Watson to bowl stump to stump with variations of pace throughout the middle.

Maxwell, Smith and Clarke to provide spin when required.

We bat right down to 11
 
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