Australian ODI Squad - 2014/15

[SpecialComments]

Fwiw, this would be my World Cup side:

Finch
Warner
Watson
Clarke
Bailey
Maxwell
Haddin
Faulkner
Johnson
Starc
Harris

Smith
M.Marsh
Haezlewood

Johnson, Starc, Harris frontline on hard, bouncy tracks.

Faulkner, Watson to bowl stump to stump with variations of pace throughout the middle.

Maxwell, Smith and Clarke to provide spin when required.

We bat right down to 11

Quite like that side - do you think Bailey will be able to hang on until the World Cup? He must do something this series. I much prefer Smith in the team over him. Will Harris play ODI? If available I would pick him. I really like Coulter-Nile but, fantastic fielder - very good bowler who is versatile(death, middle or oepning). Maxwell and Smith can do the spinning. Is Watson capable of bowling his 10 overs and batting no.3?

 

[eth-dog]

Ummm How can you say that? Wade does not deseve his call up at all. Shocking decision I say again.

Hartley 8 innings, 403 runs at 57.57 striking at 83 with a high score of 142
Wade 6 innings, 101 runs at 16.83 striking at 63 with a high score of 60

Because I actually watched the matches instead of just looking at stats. Hartley cost his side at least once by batting too slowly. Wade was poor. I agree. But it's not the travesty you make it out to be. Honestly I would have selected Dunk.

 

[bird_man]

Pretty poor since when?

All you're basing it on is the last series in Zimbabwe. Yes he was down, but he was carrying.

Mate, he had an economy rate of nearly 6 an over. I don't think think that is only due to the Zimbabwe series. He get carted around the ground far too often.

 

[OneEyedPie7]

Mate, he had an economy rate of nearly 6 an over. I don't think think that is only due to the Zimbabwe series. He get carted around the ground far too often.

There have been plenty of strike bowlers with poor economy rates in ODI cricket. I never said I agreed about his death bowling, I think that statement about him being poor is absolutely correct. I like him in the first 15 overs or in the middle.

He bowls with good pace and has plenty of variations, including one of the best slower balls in world cricket.

Last summer he was one of the leading wicket takers in the ODI series against England. His past two series in shocking conditions for fast bowlers have been underwhelming.

Taking into consideration his batting, I think he more than deserves his spot at 8.

 

[OneEyedPie7]

Quite like that side - do you think Bailey will be able to hang on until the World Cup? He must do something this series. I much prefer Smith in the team over him. Will Harris play ODI? If available I would pick him. I really like Coulter-Nile but, fantastic fielder - very good bowler who is versatile(death, middle or oepning). Maxwell and Smith can do the spinning. Is Watson capable of bowling his 10 overs and batting no.3?

Bailey will be in the 15 at the very least. Like every bat in the top 6, he has to keep making runs. While Harris hasn't featured in ODI cricket for a while, I think he is definitely in our best group of short form bowlers. When a World Cup is on the line, I think you pick your best possible side.

On Watson, I don't think he necessarily has to bowl 10 overs each match.

Johnson, Starc, Harris and Faulkner should always bowl their ten under ideal circumstances and then Maxwell, Watson and Smith can make up the extra overs.

 

[The_Reaper]

Bailey will be in the 15 at the very least. Like every bat in the top 6, he has to keep making runs. While Harris hasn't featured in ODI cricket for a while, I think he is definitely in our best group of short form bowlers. When a World Cup is on the line, I think you pick your best possible side.

On Watson, I don't think he necessarily has to bowl 10 overs each match.

Johnson, Starc, Harris and Faulkner should always bowl their ten under ideal circumstances and then Maxwell, Watson and Smith can make up the extra overs.

Faulkner ideally shouldn't bowl any overs.

 

[Phone]

Avg of 42 with the bat and 32 with the ball from 31 ODI matches.

Yeah he is shithouse.

His batting is secondary to the equation. Nobody is suggesting he bat at 6 and play as a batting all-rounder at this moment. He's in a bowling all-rounder. He's averaging over 30 at both domestic and international level with the ball and you'd be hard pressed to find too many people who think those numbers make him appear worse than he actually is. I don't think he'll play a positive role with the ball at the World Cup and for this upcoming South Africa series I'd rather audition other first change bowlers/middle over bowlers like Abbott, NCN etc.

 

[OneEyedPie7]

Abbott is horrendous. That's a NSW selection it I have ever seen one. Faulkner shits all over that peasant.

 

[OneEyedPie7]

Time will tell anyway. You can bet your bottom dollar that Faulkner is in that side though.

 

[Phone]

Abbott is horrendous. That's a NSW selection it I have ever seen one. Faulkner shits all over that peasant.

45 wickets in 27 innings is worth investigating further. Particularly given he mostly bowls in the middle overs and can get some swing going. I wouldn't necessarily pick him for the WC, but given I have doubts over our spinners ability to pick up middle over wickets, and obviously I have doubts over Faulkner's ability to do the same, I'd like to look further at NCN, Abbott etc.

 

[bird_man]

There have been plenty of strike bowlers with poor economy rates in ODI cricket. I never said I agreed about his death bowling, I think that statement about him being poor is absolutely correct. I like him in the first 15 overs or in the middle.

He bowls with good pace and has plenty of variations, including one of the best slower balls in world cricket.

Last summer he was one of the leading wicket takers in the ODI series against England. His past two series in shocking conditions for fast bowlers have been underwhelming.

Taking into consideration his batting, I think he more than deserves his spot at 8.

So you are happy to picks specialst number 8 batsman?

 

[SpecialComments]

Because I actually watched the matches instead of just looking at stats. Hartley cost his side at least once by batting too slowly. Wade was poor. I agree. But it's not the travesty you make it out to be. Honestly I would have selected Dunk.

I watched it also, and I can tell you Wade certainly was behind Hartley, Dunk, Whiteman, Nevill. So that puts him in the bottom 2 keepers in the competition. Like it or not, cricket is a game based heavily on stats.

 

[ObieWan]

Ummm How can you say that? Wade does not deseve his call up at all. Shocking decision I say again.

Hartley 8 innings, 403 runs at 57.57 striking at 83 with a high score of 142
Wade 6 innings, 101 runs at 16.83 striking at 63 with a high score of 60

+1.

Wade was the fifth best keeper in the Matador Cup. He's a terrible keeper and an okay batsman, but in NO WAY did he deserve the selection. If they don't like Hartley (for reasons unknown) then back someone in with a future. Whiteman.

 

[eth-dog]

I watched it also, and I can tell you Wade certainly was behind Hartley, Dunk, Whiteman, Nevill. So that puts him in the bottom 2 keepers in the competition. Like it or not, cricket is a game based heavily on stats.

Whiteman and Nevill were crap as well. You're overrating Hartley's tournament. Dunk was the man who should have gotten the gig. Wade's tournament overall was poor, but it's already known that he can perform on the international stage.

 

[OneEyedPie7]

So you are happy to picks specialst number 8 batsman?

You're talking s**t now. The selectors will take everything into calculation. His batting more than makes up for the couple of extra runs he may leak with the ball. An average of 32 is not terrible at international level either and it will only improve as he matures.

Abbott is neither a better bowler or batsman than Faulkner. He shouldn't be anywhere near our national side. The same can be said for Henriques, who was another charity NSW selection.

 

[Phone]

Like it or not, they are all useless comparisons because the keeper will not be batting in the top 3 in the Australian team. In fact, Ryan Carters could quite possibly have been the most deserving person. Not because he's the best wicket-keeper batsman out there, but because he actually batted in the 6-7 area and all the other possible wicket-keepers got told to open, and hey our current openers are so good we can't make room for one of Australia's all time best ODI openers to open.

 

[SpecialComments]

Like it or not, they are all useless comparisons because the keeper will not be batting in the top 3 in the Australian team. In fact, Ryan Carters could quite possibly have been the most deserving person. Not because he's the best wicket-keeper batsman out there, but because he actually batted in the 6-7 area and all the other possible wicket-keepers got told to open, and hey our current openers are so good we can't make room for one of Australia's all time best ODI openers to open.

After viewing this list had to laugh at Geoff Marsh's strike rate. Whenever there are rain delays on and they put those 1980's replays on with Marsh batting, always like 2/50 from 20 overs.

 

[SpecialComments]

Because I actually watched the matches instead of just looking at stats. Hartley cost his side at least once by batting too slowly. Wade was poor. I agree. But it's not the travesty you make it out to be. Honestly I would have selected Dunk.

I wouldn't say that from 42 ODI's averaging 22.00 with a HS of 75 striking at 63 is proven on the international stage....

 

[Bradesmaen]

You're talking s**t now. The selectors will take everything into calculation. His batting more than makes up for the couple of extra runs he may leak with the ball. An average of 32 is not terrible at international level either and it will only improve as he matures.

Abbott is neither a better bowler or batsman than Faulkner. He shouldn't be anywhere near our national side. The same can be said for Henriques, who was another charity NSW selection.

Please. Faulkner is a rubbish ODI player. He bowls military medium and tries too hard to vary things and gets spanked. People remember him for that massive knocks he played at the GABBA and Bangalore.. but it was him who conceded a heap of runs anyway.

As for the openers.. Watson should be in the team ahead of w***er. I mean Warner. The guy is a spud at ODI's and it has been proven for a long time now. He's only made 2 hundreds and 9 50's in 44 games. That is horrible for an opener. They should be going at atleast a 50+ score every 3 innings.

 

[The_Reaper]

You're talking s**t now. The selectors will take everything into calculation. His batting more than makes up for the couple of extra runs he may leak with the ball. An average of 32 is not terrible at international level either and it will only improve as he matures.

Abbott is neither a better bowler or batsman than Faulkner. He shouldn't be anywhere near our national side. The same can be said for Henriques, who was another charity NSW selection.

How about the fact that he isn't in the best four bowlers in the country? (and neither is Abbott)

So you're saying we should select an inferior bowler just because our number 8 might need to bat?

 

[bird_man]

You're talking s**t now. The selectors will take everything into calculation. His batting more than makes up for the couple of extra runs he may leak with the ball. An average of 32 is not terrible at international level either and it will only improve as he matures.

Abbott is neither a better bowler or batsman than Faulkner. He shouldn't be anywhere near our national side. The same can be said for Henriques, who was another charity NSW selection.

I never mentioned Abbott? Or Henriques, so who is talking s**t? I think you need to pick your 4 best one day bowlers and an all rounder, possibly two.

We have Watson in the side, Maxwell can bowl a few overs, that leaves room for our 4 best bowlers. Faulkner wouldn't be anywhere near that IMO.

 

[Phone]

The other aspect to the Wade/keeper selection is that, in all likelihood, they're filling a position that has never particularly done much in Austrlian OD history. No keeper at 7 has scored a ton. They average 21 as a whole. You don't have to be a genius to figure out why. They pretty much come in either when it's late in the innings and can't do anything particularly notable, or the innings is totally ****ed already. So there's probably no real reason to get too up in arms about which opener to bat at 7 for this series (overall aggregate and individual keeper stats

 

[OneEyedPie7]

His numbers at international level are better than most of his contemporaries. I'm not going to labour the point any further. When he is in the side for the opening World Cup match, you will revisit this.

Kane Richardson certainly isn't going to replace him in the team, that's for sure.

 

[The_Reaper]

His numbers at international level are better than most of his contemporaries. I'm not going to labour the point any further. When he is in the side for the opening World Cup match, you will revisit this.

Kane Richardson certainly isn't going to replace him in the team, that's for sure.

Kane Richardson is a specialist death bowler. Faulkner is a god awful death bowler.

 

[bird_man]

What has happened to McKay? Has a terrific ODI record but seems to have fallen off the radar.