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In two weeks.
Play Nice Bye bye Brad
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But what they have said is flawed to start off with. Bottom half of the 8 is making up numbers. I don't believe that any team is now good enough to win 4 finals on the trot. THat is a huge task, given that the team would face a team with a week off in a prelim and high % chance of facing a team off a victory after a week off in the Grand Final.
The three teams listed have all tangibly gotten better relative to last year, we are no better off through the Home and Away season and are yet to show whether we can again overachieve in finals.
think you are missing the actualy point, they didn't say the bottom 8 teams will actually win the flag all they said is if a team/s on the bottom 8 was to go deep in finals who has the better chance to do so? Answer was we cant see north doing so but thats not saying they wont win a final.
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I get what they are saying but refute it as being rubbish.
The concept that we can't go deep into finals is flawed. I suggest we can go as deep as others.
The most likely match up for mine are:
Freo vs Syd - this will be as boring as bat s**t. Winner Freo via home ground advantage
WC vs Hawks - this will be a cracker of a game, possibly one of the best of the series. Winner WC via home ground advantage
Dog vs us - Lets go undecided
Ade vs Rich (@AO) This should be a decent game - winner Ade via home ground advantage.
Week 2
Syd vs Dogs or us (in SYD) - we do not play well up there - Winner SYD via home ground advantage
Haw vs Ade (MCG) - Winner HAW - this is a game the Hawks need to win.
Because this season is so flat I reckon we are going to get a pretty formulaic finals series.
I understand and partially agree with the sentiment of your post, however it does need to be remembered that we finished higher then mid table slugs like Collingwood who some think are a prime example of a club looking down the barrel of mediocrity, and pulling itself out of it with a high performance culture of accountability.
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I understand and partially agree with the sentiment of your post, however it does need to be remembered that we finished higher then mid table slugs like Collingwood who some think are a prime example of a club looking down the barrel of mediocrity, and pulling itself out of it with a high performance culture of accountability.
Collingwood's list is in better shape than ours right now, and will be even moreso when they add Treloar and likely Aish too.
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I agree completely and would prefer to face them week 1 than either Adelaide or Richmond.
Does replacing Brad mean all players over 30 are retired, as a new coach get leniency in the first few years, does our rebuild get put back 4 years? how much pain until we get another shot? Brad annoys me with his non development of Daw and McKenzie but will a replacement cost us years of nothingness? or do we see the plan out and fingers crossed Brad knows better then us?
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Will Brad win the 2015 or 2016 flag?
THere are not ready made replacements for the group of 30+s on the list. We are likely to dip in 2017 regardless.
If the answer to the flag question is no, then the subsequnet question becomes, is Brad the right person to oversee a secondary (smaller) rebuild?
so before round one this year, were we finishing top 4? and were the dogs getting an early draft picks again? I don't know if Brad can deliver a flag in the next couple of years, I want to know if a relacement coach is given 5 years to rebuild his team with the view of coming good around 2019 if so I would prefer to run the course and see where it takes us. List management this year may change my opinion on this completely.
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Surely the last few years has proven bringing in a new coach doesn't automatically mean you need 4-5 years of development? Get the right people and the impact can be immediate.
The media also seem to forget that Adelaide did not win 4 on the trot in 98 either.
They got belted by 8 goals in the first final and would now be eliminated week 1.
So in the current season any of the bottom 4 would have to win 4 on trot and a fair chance of having to win an interstate prelim against a team with a week off.
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Under the current finals structure the possiblity of a team winning it from outside the top 4 is extremely remote.
So remote that up unitl last year only 1 side from 5-8 had progressed beyond the second round.
Last year 2 teams did (us and Port) this should be viewed as over achieving in finals because the finals are just not geared towards having the teams 5-8 win a flag.
Why not just swap Scotts with Scotts?
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I think you're missing what's he's saying , he's saying, that their saying which is we're no *en good
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I reckon his extension will have already been typed up and printed long before then.
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Given the prelim berth in 2014 and the pick ups in Waite and Higgins in the off season (both having good years) not to mention a fairly decent run with injuries there is really no excuse for bowing out in the first week of the finals. Personally I don't think we will get knocked out in the first week, but if we do this season has been a massive failure.
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Scott has had 6 years to build a premiership team.
6 years !
He has failed and should be moved on.
Remember this, not including our TOTC coach D. Pagan, we have had 2 coaches in the last 16 years.
How many grand finals have we played in, in that time - 0
How many times have we been premiership favourites - 0
When was the last time we topped the ladder for an extended period during the year ? (I cant remember).
But yet, we have only had 2 coaching changes. And if I recall correctly, D Laidley resigned. He wasnt sacked, he probably could have remained coach if he wanted.
So next year will be 17 years with no ultimate success. With not even looking like being premiers, and with one coaching change.
It is this record that shows me the NMFC is not ruthless about Premiership success. It it was, it would embrace and encourage change, look for new ideas, take risks. Instead we get another year of B Scott and D Crocker, same old, same old....
6 years !
He has failed and should be moved on.
Remember this, not including our TOTC coach D. Pagan, we have had 2 coaches in the last 16 years.
How many grand finals have we played in, in that time - 0
How many times have we been premiership favourites - 0
When was the last time we topped the ladder for an extended period during the year ? (I cant remember).
But yet, we have only had 2 coaching changes. And if I recall correctly, D Laidley resigned. He wasnt sacked, he probably could have remained coach if he wanted.
So next year will be 17 years with no ultimate success. With not even looking like being premiers, and with one coaching change.
It is this record that shows me the NMFC is not ruthless about Premiership success. It it was, it would embrace and encourage change, look for new ideas, take risks. Instead we get another year of B Scott and D Crocker, same old, same old....
Would you say back in their day *FC and Carlton were pretty ruthless?? Explain to me and others here how their strategies went?
How did Footscray during the the 1st decade of the millenium and St Kilda for that matter. Both of them ended in tears and nothing to show for.
Hand baggers waited 40+ years since 1963 to win their next one and then were lucky enough to win a few during their bubble.
Richmond ----> basket case
Collingwood the way Eddie carries on at times you'd think they've won more than they've actually achieved.
AFL backroom agenda's with 2 new baby teams now on the scene, strong competition within the football supremacy dollars within the Australian market. 6 years of growing in the correct direction of an upward trend gives me hope and that what you want from those controlling the club.
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