EPL Clubs Falling Behind Elite

[Bojan KantKick]

Maybe not but if differentiates them from anyone else in England. It's not the be all and end all but it's still a bloody impressive achievement. Especially while they didn't spend as much due to paying off their stadium.

You can probs remove Chelsea from that group as whilst they technically finished outside the top 4, the jammy campainers retained their UCL status with there Bradbury.*

Don't think City have dropped out of the top 4 since they entered it either. United haven't either, all records relating to he who should not be named have been erased.

*was bitter at the time as I wanted them to fail, not now though, but i'm hoping to real a few fishies in with the bradbury comment!!!!!

 

[Zidane98]

They've never relied on a benefactor in their history?

Not solely, no.

 

[moomba]

They've never relied on a benefactor in their history?

Doesnt count.

 

[chef]

Doesnt count.

Only the johnny come latelys count apparently.

 

[Jatz]

You can probs remove Chelsea from that group as whilst they technically finished outside the top 4, the jammy campainers retained their UCL status with there Bradbury.*

Don't think City have dropped out of the top 4 since they entered it either. United haven't either, all records relating to he who should not be named have been erased.

*was bitter at the time as I wanted them to fail, not now though, but i'm hoping to real a few fishies in with the bradbury comment!!!!!

Well yep, they got lucky more than anything. Still dropped out though. Bit like United in *those years.

City is a different case as you say.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Well yep, they got lucky more than anything. Still dropped out though. Bit like United in *those years.

City is a different case as you say.

It was 1 year and Moyes almost Bradbury'd the UCL.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Paddys goal vs Bayern was the highlight than the campaigners scored 30 seconds later

 

[Magma]

is making lots of money more important than a champions league medal?

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

The cl does offer greater ad revenue and winning that means perhaps more money

 

[Magma]

im just trying to get at something concerning the mental aspect of the premier league footballer currently when it comes to european football.

last night we're 1-0 up, largely comfortable and then lose 2-1. pogba largely had no effect until that pass to mandzukic. then it all falls apart. sounds like something similar happened in the utd game.

it really just doesnt make sense.

 

[FAITH]

technically they just arent good enough, they get away with it against epl sides but not against quality ucl teams like juve and psv.

 

[Magma]

there's no way that that juve team that got put out had better players.

there has to be something deeper here. it's just too ridiculous to say it's just technical or skill based anymore.

 

[moomba]

I think people are getting a bit carried away with the two results.

Lets see where we are at the end of the groups.

 

[PP34]

Match day one and people are already overreacting.

 

[FAITH]

there's no way that that juve team that got put out had better players.

there has to be something deeper here. it's just too ridiculous to say it's just technical or skill based anymore.

not just ucl its europa to english teams just ran like headless chickens technically inept, doesnt work against quality european teams.

 

[Greendogg5]

there's no way that that juve team that got put out had better players.

there has to be something deeper here. it's just too ridiculous to say it's just technical or skill based anymore.

Agreed 100%

 

[moomba]

One thing worth considering is that we're so reliant on Silva in the league, and I can't recall too many times he's shone in the champions league.

Tactically I thought we were better than we have been on other champions league nights and on another day could have got away with a win or draw. Juve deserved the win but I didnt think we were outclassed despite having three or four of the team being non effective.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

I could have sworn Arsenal have won at least national silverware in the last five years ...

 

[jd2010]

is the premier league the only league in the world where it pays more to win the league than go deep in the cl?

financially i mean.

We have ourselves a winner!

 

[jd2010]

not just ucl its europa to english teams just ran like headless chickens technically inept, doesnt work against quality european teams.

You do realise the guys that play in the EL are guys that are not good enough to get in the PL matchday squads most the time. Like hacks Paulinho, Holtby & McGeady

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

United should have won and they did not due to them not taking their chances.

We created enough just lacked the finish, we did same under SAF (most of the time vs villiareal for some reason)

 

[simba_]

there's no way that that juve team that got put out had better players.

there has to be something deeper here. it's just too ridiculous to say it's just technical or skill based anymore.

r u saying football is fixed

 

[FAITH]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/09/16/epl-riches-cant-buy-best-says-beckenbauer

 

[Magma]

shame he didnt break into money cant buy you stones.

 

[FAITH]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-of-losing-fourth-Champions-League-place.html