Football / Coaching Department

[akeliz22]

ST KILDA has finalised its 2015 coaching panel with the appointment of former Carlton player Rohan Welsh as defensive assistant coach.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-12-23/2015-coaching-panel-finalised

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

ST KILDA has finalised its 2015 coaching panel with the appointment of former Carlton player Rohan Welsh as defensive assistant coach.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-12-23/2015-coaching-panel-finalised

From the article:

2015 COACHING PANEL:

Senior Coach Alan Richardson

Director of Coaching and Strategy Danny Sexton

Assistant Coach – Forward Aaron Hamill

Assistant Coach – Midfield Adam Kingsley

Assistant Coach – Defence Rohan Welsh

Head of Player Academy and Development Simon McPhee

Development Coach & Sandringham Senior Coach Paul Hudson

Development Coach Lindsay Gilbee

Development Coach Peta Searle

Specialist Defensive Coach (part time) Danny Frawley

Ruck Coach (part time) Adam Skrobalak

 

[sammm]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...oaching-position/story-fnglemo4-1227037369355
THE Casey Scorpions will start talks with Melbourne this week over the future of senior coach Rohan Welsh.
Welsh’s two-year contract has expired and he is keen to continue, but he will wait to see what is put before him.
The former Carlton forward is a part-time coach but the Demons may ask Casey to make it a full-time position and for the coach to come from their panel of assistants.
Under the alignment agreement the Scorpions ultimately make the appointment.
“It’s a little bit up in the air at the moment,’’ Welsh said.
“I’m waiting for Casey to talk to Melbourne to see what their plans are.
“They may go down the path of the Box Hill model, have a development coach run the VFL side. So we’ll see how the job description looks after they (Casey and Melbourne) have spoken.
“But I do want to stay involved and I’m in a position where I could do it full-time.’’....

 

[sammm]

ST KILDA has finalised its 2015 coaching panel with the appointment of former Carlton player Rohan Welsh as defensive assistant coach.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-12-23/2015-coaching-panel-finalised

here is another article from mid 2013.
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc...ID=60264&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=23731254

 

[karaoke]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-look-to-exblues-recruiting-boss-20141223-12d487.html

Saints look to ex-Blues recruiting boss

St Kilda are expected to hire former Carlton recruiting boss Wayne Hughes to a new role overseeing the club's recruiting of seasoned players.

Hughes, who worked at St Kilda in the late 1980s and early '90s in recruiting, is close to being appointed to a role as the club's "pro-scout" in which he will assess potential free agents and other AFL-listed players.

 

[felsty]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-look-to-exblues-recruiting-boss-20141223-12d487.html

Saints look to ex-Blues recruiting boss

St Kilda are expected to hire former Carlton recruiting boss Wayne Hughes to a new role overseeing the club's recruiting of seasoned players.

Hughes, who worked at St Kilda in the late 1980s and early '90s in recruiting, is close to being appointed to a role as the club's "pro-scout" in which he will assess potential free agents and other AFL-listed players.

Does anyone know if other teams have a role suited to this? Im sure they do but this is the first i have heard of it

 

[karaoke]

Does anyone know if other teams have a role suited to this? Im sure they do but this is the first i have heard of it

Tigers have Blair Hartley if I'm not mistaken?

Conca Truck

 

[Persevering Saint]

Does anyone know if other teams have a role suited to this? Im sure they do but this is the first i have heard of it

Involved with Carlton's recruiting from about 2008 to 2014?

Why the HELL would we want somebody involved in THAT tradewreck?!



I think I just vomitted a little in my mouth...

 

[Sunshine Saint]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-look-to-exblues-recruiting-boss-20141223-12d487.html

Saints look to ex-Blues recruiting boss

St Kilda are expected to hire former Carlton recruiting boss Wayne Hughes to a new role overseeing the club's recruiting of seasoned players.

Hughes, who worked at St Kilda in the late 1980s and early '90s in recruiting, is close to being appointed to a role as the club's "pro-scout" in which he will assess potential free agents and other AFL-listed players.

And as well as the appointment of Hughes for recruiting seasoned players, the article states states that we are also hiring another talent scout for junior talent:

"The imminent appointment is part of a revamp of St Kilda's recruiting department, which will also add another full-time scout who focuses entirely on junior, untried talent – the vast majority of draftees – for the 2015 season."

 

[hayes]

Involved with Carlton's recruiting from about 2008 to 2014?

Why the HELL would we want somebody involved in THAT tradewreck?!



I think I just vomitted a little in my mouth...

This is why I'm here also. Can anyone make me feel better about this?

 

[SK_MD_#7]

This is why I'm here also. Can anyone make me feel better about this?

We can just assume he screwed Carlton up on purpose to make ourselves feel better.

 

[Periphery]

Does anyone know if other teams have a role suited to this? Im sure they do but this is the first i have heard of it

I just had a quick look through a good number of the other clubs websites and found that the Dees, North, Crows and Hawks all have someone listed as a "pro scout". I didn't check all the clubs and some don't have all their staff listed, but it seems like it's not a bullshit role.

 

[Periphery]

And as well as the appointment of Hughes for recruiting seasoned players, the article states states that we are also hiring another talent scout for junior talent:

"The imminent appointment is part of a revamp of St Kilda's recruiting department, which will also add another full-time scout who focuses entirely on junior, untried talent – the vast majority of draftees – for the 2015 season."

Rahul : You better get this job!

 

[SK_MD_#7]

In his 2008-2013 time at Carlscum

2008:
Trade:
Robbie Warnock + Pick 69 for Pick 24, 56 & 72

Draft: Chris Yarran (Pick 6), Mitch Robinson (Pick 40), Rhys O'Keefe (Pick 65), Caleb Tiller (Pick 80), Chris Johnson (PSD, Pick 4), Jeff Garlett (RD, Pick 6), Luke Stanton (RD, Pick 22), Greg Bentley (RD, Pick 37), Darren Pefieffer (RD, Pick 51), Lachie Hill (RD, Pick 65), Sam Jacobs (RD, Pick 76)

2009:
Trade:
Brock McLean for Pick 11
Brendan Fevola + Pick 27 for Lachlan Henderson + Pick 12

Draft: Kane Lucas (Pick 12), Marcus Davies (Pick 43), Rohan Kerr (Pick 59), Jarryd Cachia (RD, Pick 15), Joe Dare (RD, Pick 31), Levi Casboult (RD, Pick 44), Simon White (RD, Pick 56), Josh Donaldson (RD, Pick 66), Zach Touhy (RD/Scholarship)

2010:
Trade:
Sam Jacobs for Pick 34 + 67
Jeremy Laidler + Pick 41 for Pick 36 + 63

Draft: Matthew Watson (Pick 18), Patrick McCarthy (Pick 34), Luke Mitchell (Pick 42), Andrew McInness (Pick 67), Nick Duigan (Pick 70), Ed Curnow (RD, Pick 18), Rhys O'Keefe (RD, Pick 35), Wayde Twomey (RD, Pick 51), Mitchell Carter (RD, Pick 66), Blake Bray (RD, Pick 78)

2011:
Trade:
NIL

Draft: Josh Bootsma (Pick 22), Sam Rowe (Pick 44), Dylan Buckley (Pick 62 F/S), Tom Bell (RD, Pick 14), Nick Heyne (RD, Pick 32), Frazer Dale (RD, Pick 50), Matthew Lodge (RD, Pick 67)

2012:
Trade:
Jordan Russell for pick 69

Draft: Troy Menzel (Pick 11), Tom Temay (Pick 35), Nick Graham (Pick 54), Jarryd Cachia (RD, Pick 9), Andrew Collins (RD, Pick 23)

2013:
Trade:
Shaun Hampson for Pick 32
Sam Docherty for Pick 33
Andrejs Everitt + Pick 39 for Pick 32

Draft: Patrick Cripps (Pick 13), Cameron Giles (Pick 39), Nick Holman (Pick 51), Luke Reynolds (RD, Pick 12), Cameron Wood (RD, Pick 28), Blaine Johnson (RD, Pick 43), Heath Scotland (RD, Pick 53), Ciarann Sheehan (Scholarship), Ciaran Byrne (Scholarship)

57 players in 22 remain.

 

[holllywood]

Because the successes and failings of each player is solely the fault of the recruiter and no one else.

 

[SK_MD_#7]

Because the successes and failings of each player is solely the fault of the recruiter and no one else.

Didn't mean that at all. Was just stating trades/selections during his time at Carlton not blaming them on just him.

But Carlton supporters seem to think he was crap.

 

[Nutsngum]

Didn't mean that at all. Was just stating trades/selections during his time at Carlton not blaming them on just him.

But Carlton supporters seem to think he was crap.

Makes it hard to distinguish between poor recruiting and poor development. Those players may have all been highly rated at the beginning..

 

[Periphery]

He'll be in a almost totally different role here anyway.

He'll probably have no say over our drafting and I doubt he'd have much control over exactly which 'pro' players we go after and any associated trades. I think he'll mainly be a way to thoroughly collect info on and liaise with prospective current players for Trout and Co. to help base their decisions on. That's just my take on it though.

 

[Defacto]

Didn't mean that at all. Was just stating trades/selections during his time at Carlton not blaming them on just him.

But Carlton supporters seem to think he was crap.

I wonder how much room they've had to do their job there. Seems like a shite place to work, where your employer is openly trying to find your replacement

When was he at freo? Was cuddles and schwab there then?

 

[Defacto]

He'll be in a almost totally different role here anyway.

He'll probably have no say over our drafting and I doubt he'd have much control over exactly which 'pro' players we go after and any associated trades. I think he'll mainly be a way to thoroughly collect info on and liaise with prospective current players for Trout and Co. to help base their decisions on. That's just my take on it though.

Spot on. Pro scout has more wheeling and dealing than a recruiter IMO. I always wondered if we lost a lot of the sales man pitch when we lost watters and now ameet has less time for it. Would be good to have someone who can sweet talk player managers and players. Really sell the club and drag some talent out

Personally couldn't care if they're s**t at identifying talent let trout and co evaluate them. All I care about is that they convince targets that we are better than the 17 other clubs

 

[De Iulio2Wiggins]

I wouldn't put Wayne Hughes near anything involved with selecting junior players again. Seemed to have a fetish with taking players who were super-elite in one aspect (Yarran's speed, Watson's kicking, Bootsma's uh ... um ... oh) and lacking in others.

He can pick solid fringe players from the lower leagues. Curnow and Rowe are great in their roles and Everitt is good. Laidler could've made it too, before his ongoing knee. You'll probably cop some stick for hiring Hughes, but one thing he can do is find draft bargains with late and rookie picks. Just a shame he burned nearly every pick in the first three rounds in his time with Carlton.

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

Hughes was behind all of Carltons problems.
Apparently it had nothing to do with all the salary cap rorting, tanking and being reamed by the AFL for being cheats.

 

[sonnywalters]

Is this a job for a mate? Richo spent two years at the blues under Ratten.

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

Is this a job for a mate? Richo spent two years at the blues under Ratten.

Nothing wrong with that if you think your mate is well qualified i suppose .
I remember hearing a few negative rumours about the Trout yrs ago when he was working with Dennis Pagan.
Things like he had no balls and was just a 'yes' man to anything Pagan said.
But so far i think most of us are very happy with Trout.
Weve made some real positive moves at our club recently so im happy to think that we know what we are doing in hiring Hughes.

 

[sonnywalters]

Nothing wrong with that if you think your mate is well qualified i suppose .
I remember hearing a few negative rumours about the Trout yrs ago when he was working with Dennis Pagan.
Things like he had no balls and was just a 'yes' man to anything Pagan said.
But so far i think most of us are very happy with Trout.
Weve made some real positive moves at our club recently so im happy to think that we know what we are doing in hiring Hughes.

Fair enough. Anyways we now have a fully staffed footy dept. So thats a good place to be.