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[mightynineteen]

Don't think it's fast coming to that CP. I believe it became that way many years ago, partly due to an individual named Elliot. Once players stopped playing for the love of the colours they were wearing, and started playing for money in the bank, our game then attracted money hungry pr%#ks like Vlad & Co.

No, it goes back further than that. For example, One of my favourite players, Kevin Heath going to Carlton. Even earlier, Barassi leaving Melbourne and going to Carlton. Hmm, going to Carlton seems to be a common theme.
Actually when you think about it, it's happened a lot, players changing clubs for money, over the decades.

 

[Thaihawk]

No, it goes back further than that. For example, One of my favourite players, Kevin Heath going to Carlton. Even earlier, Barassi leaving Melbourne and going to Carlton. Hmm, going to Carlton seems to be a common theme.
Actually when you think about it, it's happened a lot, players changing clubs for money, over the decades.

I did mention Elliot. The man who negotiated to take over our biggest brewery with his jam company!

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

So I reckon I'm going to witness something today that many Saints fans thought they wouldn't see....Clint Jones kicks hitting the chest of Saints players.

Niiiiiice !!!!!!

 

[Wundo]

Need to lighten up - it's the stock standard response when favoured teams lose a NAB cup game. Just like those teams that do really well are now locked in as flag favourites.

Exactly.

 

[Rioli magic]

Nice article on Hawthorn....

"Hawthorn's trump card as it is evolving into a hunted team in the AFL premiership race is to introduce another level of unpredictability and firmer team defence.

Utility Shaun Burgoyne, a good kick of the ball who can be effective both off a half-back flank and in the midfield, is one of the prototypes for a more versatile side.

It includes players such as Norm Smith Medalist Luke Hodge, who will play both as a defender and on the ball, and a range of other medium-sized players.

The idea is to keep opposition sides on their toes with match-ups and also find a way to best deal with the cap on interchange rotations, which have been set at 120.

"I’ve gone through the midfield a little bit more during the pre-season,’’ Burgoyne said. ``But I assume I’ll still play the majority of it down back with the guys in the midfield, Mitchell (Sam) and `Hodgey’ (captain Luke Hodge) going really well.

“But we’re just trying to get that sort of diversity in roles. I’m happy to do what’s needed for the team to succeed.

“A lot of our players we want to play different roles to be able to mix it up. I think that’s becoming more important with the interchange (cap) as well.

“It’s certainly something we’ve looked at over summer.’’

Read more here:
How Hawthorn will stay ahead of the pack

 

[Off The Couch]

I see what you did there

 

[cryptor]

Nice article on Hawthorn....

"Hawthorn's trump card as it is evolving into a hunted team in the AFL premiership race is to introduce another level of unpredictability and firmer team defence.

Utility Shaun Burgoyne, a good kick of the ball who can be effective both off a half-back flank and in the midfield, is one of the prototypes for a more versatile side.

It includes players such as Norm Smith Medalist Luke Hodge, who will play both as a defender and on the ball, and a range of other medium-sized players.

The idea is to keep opposition sides on their toes with match-ups and also find a way to best deal with the cap on interchange rotations, which have been set at 120.

"I’ve gone through the midfield a little bit more during the pre-season,’’ Burgoyne said. ``But I assume I’ll still play the majority of it down back with the guys in the midfield, Mitchell (Sam) and `Hodgey’ (captain Luke Hodge) going really well.

“But we’re just trying to get that sort of diversity in roles. I’m happy to do what’s needed for the team to succeed.

“A lot of our players we want to play different roles to be able to mix it up. I think that’s becoming more important with the interchange (cap) as well.

“It’s certainly something we’ve looked at over summer.’’

Read more here:
How Hawthorn will stay ahead of the pack

Daniel Howe appears to be the perfect prototype player for this style.

 

[Brishawk]

Daniel Howe appears to be the perfect prototype player for this style.

I like what I have seen from the kid. Will play seniors this year for exposure and start playing more regularly in 2016.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Nice article on Hawthorn....

"Hawthorn's trump card as it is evolving into a hunted team in the AFL premiership race is to introduce another level of unpredictability and firmer team defence.

Utility Shaun Burgoyne, a good kick of the ball who can be effective both off a half-back flank and in the midfield, is one of the prototypes for a more versatile side.

It includes players such as Norm Smith Medalist Luke Hodge, who will play both as a defender and on the ball, and a range of other medium-sized players.

The idea is to keep opposition sides on their toes with match-ups and also find a way to best deal with the cap on interchange rotations, which have been set at 120.

"I’ve gone through the midfield a little bit more during the pre-season,’’ Burgoyne said. ``But I assume I’ll still play the majority of it down back with the guys in the midfield, Mitchell (Sam) and `Hodgey’ (captain Luke Hodge) going really well.

“But we’re just trying to get that sort of diversity in roles. I’m happy to do what’s needed for the team to succeed.

“A lot of our players we want to play different roles to be able to mix it up. I think that’s becoming more important with the interchange (cap) as well.

“It’s certainly something we’ve looked at over summer.’’

Read more here:
How Hawthorn will stay ahead of the pack

Very clever changing Port to Hawthorn
Took me a minute to realize what you did

Port, and other teams can try it, but it can fail spectacularly
We've been doing the multiple position players for a long time, and others are now trying to copy
Hopefully it just confuses themselves

 

[cryptor]

Haha didn't click the link. Very clever. Though I did wonder why this was only being written now when it's been no secret we've been doing it for years.

I guess having really fit players wasn't exactly considered ground breaking strategy in an elite sporting environment any more.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Watch clarko revert to a team of 1-position specialist players in 2016.

 

[cryptor]

Has the captain and leadership group for 2015 been confirmed yet?

Not that I anticipate any drastic changes. Especially with the captain position.

 

[Whistling Hawk]

Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Article in today's online HUN saying that Eddie reckons the Pies can snatch the flag this year....Membership spruiking or king of delusion?

 

[cryptor]

Article in today's online HUN saying that Eddie reckons the Pies can snatch the flag this year....Membership spruiking or king of delusion?

Both

 

[cryptor]

Interesting that Clarko has told most of the younger guys that they probably won't get a run in the seniors this season.

I guess the benefits of that is they aren't under false illusions (of being best 22 or "right on the cusp") so when they don't actually play any senior games this year they don't feel like they've been cheated out of game time. And for those that do play games they'll really feel they've exceeded expectations - and there will still be next year for them.

The alternative is to tell a dozen or more blokes "you're right on the cusp" and then putting over half of them offside because they don't get a game despite putting in personal best seasons at VFL. Not ideal when the entire comp will be knocking on our doors late October.

A good move by Clarko.

 

[Great 2008]

So when they get a game the door will have been knocked down (or injuries ).

 

[Procrastinator35]

Interesting that Clarko has told most of the younger guys that they probably won't get a run in the seniors this season.

I guess the benefits of that is they aren't under false illusions (of being best 22 or "right on the cusp") so when they don't actually play any senior games this year they don't feel like they've been cheated out of game time. And for those that do play games they'll really feel they've exceeded expectations - and there will still be next year for them.

The alternative is to tell a dozen or more blokes "you're right on the cusp" and then putting over half of them offside because they don't get a game despite putting in personal best seasons at VFL. Not ideal when the entire comp will be knocking on our doors late October.

A good move by Clarko.

SOURCE?

 

[cryptor]

SOURCE?

Apologies...

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-03-12/young-players-to-drive-overall-success-clarkson

 

[seysearles]

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

seysearles is there a footy book out?

 

[Thaihawk]

Article in today's online HUN saying that Eddie reckons the Pies can snatch the flag this year....Membership spruiking or king of delusion?

They'd have to climb the pole first Pc.

 

[seysearles]

seysearles is there a footy book out?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Ahh, ok

 

[Procrastinator35]

Cats lookin Souper-Duper against the Crows....Must now be flag favs ahead of Roos & Pies for mine!