September - Win Money In Here.

[Main Man]

Petits Filous $2.30 with TAB, Terravista staying home.

3YO filly in her first prep going to G1 WFA - Does she win and what price is value? Fontiton looks massive unders to me, I had a small piece of Ball Of Muscle @ 13's EW.

Based on what he has been doing she is certainly good enough to be winning this race but she doesn't have that much of a edge at this point in time to justify the current price.

Think there is a fair bit of hype factored into the price.

Agree regarding Fontiton but more from a coming back from injury point of view, haven't looked at any of her jump outs so not sure how she is traveling.

Havent looked at the race in great depth as yet.

 

[bombers21]

Kirramosa to win the Epsom. Can get $16

Magic Hurricane in the Metrop. $3.80 fave, bit short at the moment

 

[bombers21]

Petits Filous $2.30 with TAB, Terravista staying home.

3YO filly in her first prep going to G1 WFA - Does she win and what price is value? Fontiton looks massive unders to me, I had a small piece of Ball Of Muscle @ 13's EW.

Petits Filous is an extremely good horse.

 

[iluvparis]

Magic Hurricane in the Metrop. $3.80 fave, bit short at the moment

Looks the obvious though - of the two faves I'd rather be on him than Winx.

 

[bombers21]

Looks the obvious though - of the two faves I'd rather be on him than Winx.

You're right, I'm just hoping to get a bit more than $4

 

[Rough_Edges]

Just watched Winx first up replay.

Forgot how impressive.

What a win !

 

[Rough_Edges]

Had an ok win today.

Still annoying about missing the quad at Kembla.

But got a couple of decent winners..

 

[ABitWoofy]

Kirramosa to win the Epsom. Can get $16

Magic Hurricane in the Metrop. $3.80 fave, bit short at the moment

What boxes does she tick for you? hasn't won a race in 2 years

 

[rideclutch]

Petits Filous is an extremely good horse.

Let's not get carried away bombers.

I know you own half the Reserve Bank after last weekend, but calling her a good horse I think is going too far...

 

[rideclutch]

Agree regarding Fontiton but more from a coming back from injury point of view, haven't looked at any of her jump outs so not sure how she is traveling.

Your figures suggest she is good enough? I thought she might've just been the best of an even bunch as a 2YO. Scope wise I thought she might struggle to train on as well, but market says differently.

 

[FallingLiefs]

Will risk Winx all day long at that price, very hard to take it on such an inconsistent type.

 

[Main Man]

Your figures suggest she is good enough? I thought she might've just been the best of an even bunch as a 2YO. Scope wise I thought she might struggle to train on as well, but market says differently.

With me she currently rates as G2-G3 horse in open company with potential to be genuine G1, in fact I think she will end up genuine G1 but not sure she is there yet, if Chatauqua and or Lankan Rupee was here then I would give her none but given this is shaping as a fairly weak G1 I think she is certainly one of the main chances.

I just don't think she has reached a level as yet that justifies her price, she is capable of reaching a new peak here which would see her winning the race but she might also plateau which puts her level with a lot of horses here, as I said I think she is being priced on potential and for that reason I personally couldn't take the price.

You mentioned Ball of Muscle, he is nothing special and lacks a turn of foot but he is a genuine G2-G3 horse so I don't have much between them on current form and he is $10, having said that I'm not sure I want to back anything to beat her given she does have the upside.

Buffering the obvious class but back from injury and long in the tooth.

Only 3yo I would confidently back to beat the older horses at this stage is Exosphere.

Still disappointed he didn't go the Gunieas path, I suspect he trots in the Prelude last Saturday.

 

[Rough_Edges]

I was just looking at a list of trainers as a mate asked me for my favourite and least favourite trainers.

Kav is and always has been one of my least favourites. But he is becoming a bit harder to despise at the moment because I just don't see him.

Decided to have a look at his stable, and * me - has he hit financial trouble ?

Long gone are the days of Divine Madonna, Devil Moon, Whobegotyou, Maldivian and Atlantic Jewel. True champions of the sport.

His best horse now? Magicool. A decent 4 yo. Chivalry is OK as well, but Jesus where have all his good horses gone?

#30 on Wallers list would be #1 on Kavanaghs.

Is he just not investing with the current investigation ?

 

[sethlad]

Eales took all his horses from Kav,perhaps others did too

seth

 

[Rough_Edges]

Petits Filous is an extremely good horse.

Let's not get carried away bombers.

I know you own half the Reserve Bank after last weekend, but calling her a good horse I think is going too far...

Leading headline on HS

"Shades of Caviar as Petits Filous ups ante"

hahah

 

[year of the cat]

I was just looking at a list of trainers as a mate asked me for my favourite and least favourite trainers.

Kav is and always has been one of my least favourites. But he is becoming a bit harder to despise at the moment because I just don't see him.

Decided to have a look at his stable, and **** me - has he hit financial trouble ?

Long gone are the days of Divine Madonna, Devil Moon, Whobegotyou, Maldivian and Atlantic Jewel. True champions of the sport.

His best horse now? Magicool. A decent 4 yo. Chivalry is OK as well, but Jesus where have all his good horses gone?

#30 on Wallers list would be #1 on Kavanaghs.

Is he just not investing with the current investigation ?

Kav may have a good one in Iron Boss - won very nicely at Geelong on the weekend and looks a good Derby hope.

 

[Rough_Edges]

Petits Filous is an extremely good horse.

Let's not get carried away bombers.

I know you own half the Reserve Bank after last weekend, but calling her a good horse I think is going too far...

Leading headline on HS

"Shades of Caviar as Petits Filous ups ante"

hahah

 

[Rough_Edges]

Kav may have a good one in Iron Boss - won very nicely at Geelong on the weekend and looks a good Derby hope.

No doubt he has got a few with upside thrown in but it's a far cry from the types he used to have.

 

[sethlad]

Just noticed the Metrop field has one horse bred in Australia

seth

 

[year of the cat]

No doubt he has got a few with upside thrown in but it's a far cry from the types he used to have.

No doubt the cobalt controversy has affected his business.

He has a reputation for being prickly but I had a horse with him a couple of years ago and found him to be very generous with his time and informative (and I wasn't a big time owner by any stretch). Was very nice to my kids as well. Just has an unfortunate manner with the press it seems.

 

[bombers21]

What boxes does she tick for you? hasn't won a race in 2 years

To me she represents the best value. She's a classy mare and watching her races this prep I think she's nearly back to her best. 4th up and ready to peak fitness wise. Blake Shinn on is a positive. Barrier doesn't bother as she will just get back and with good tempo which I anticipate, she'll be finishing off hard. Really happy that Shinn is on board

 

[bombers21]

Let's not get carried away bombers.

I know you own half the Reserve Bank after last weekend, but calling her a good horse I think is going too far...

I'm trying not to with this horse but she's exciting

 

[iluvparis]

To me she represents the best value. She's a classy mare and watching her races this prep I think she's nearly back to her best. 4th up and ready to peak fitness wise. Blake Shinn on is a positive. Barrier doesn't bother as she will just get back and with good tempo which I anticipate, she'll be finishing off hard. Really happy that Shinn is on board

Agree that she is easily backable here despite the poor recent win rate.

 

[Gavin Excell]

L Valentina - non winner

 

[rideclutch]

I'm trying not to with this horse but she's exciting

Just pulling your leg pal, she's very good