Should Brisbane withdraw from hosting the Olympics?

[Gough]

Olympics boss tells Queensland to ditch $2.7bn plan for Gabba demolition and rebuild

John Coates tells review of 2032 infrastructure that stadium proposal risks turning people against hosting Olympic Games

www.theguardian.com

The decision to host the Olympics was made in very different economic circumstances to ones that we find ourselves in now, and historically Game's legacies are indifferent at best. Already there's a a backlash with the Minister in charge being forced to deny that they are "on the nose", should the Queensland government withdraw from hosting the Games now before any more money is invested in them?

 

[owen87]

Olympics boss tells Queensland to ditch $2.7bn plan for Gabba demolition and rebuild

John Coates tells review of 2032 infrastructure that stadium proposal risks turning people against hosting Olympic Games

www.theguardian.com

The decision to host the Olympics was made in very different economic circumstances to ones that we find ourselves in now, and historically Game's legacies are indifferent at best. Already there's a a backlash with the Minister in charge being forced to deny that they are "on the nose", should the Queensland government withdraw from hosting the Games now before any more money is invested in them?

Much like Victoria should have done with the Commonwealth Games, they should be trying to run these things in a sensibly economic fashion, not running the 4th most expensive stadium rebuild in history.

Victoria could easily have hosted the Commonwealth Games with minimal cost and infrastructure redevelopment but instead they decided it was either spend billions hosting it entirely regionally with non-existent infrastructure or spend a billion or so to not host it at all.

Brisbane as a major city with plenty of sporting teams and events simply doesn't need to spend $2.7b doing up the Gabba to host the Olympics.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

No, they should just go back to the original plan which involved using their existing facilities with a slight spruce up, and most of the money going into transport infrastructure. All this nonsense only began when the state government decided they'd change the plan and spend billions knocking down the Gabba and rebuilding it.

People act like the Gabba is about to fall over but it's structurally sound and will be usable for decades to come. Not everything needs to be brand spanking new.

 

[Rob R]

Olympics boss tells Queensland to ditch $2.7bn plan for Gabba demolition and rebuild

John Coates tells review of 2032 infrastructure that stadium proposal risks turning people against hosting Olympic Games

www.theguardian.com

The decision to host the Olympics was made in very different economic circumstances to ones that we find ourselves in now, and historically Game's legacies are indifferent at best. Already there's a a backlash with the Minister in charge being forced to deny that they are "on the nose", should the Queensland government withdraw from hosting the Games now before any more money is invested in them?

100% yes, we have far higher priorities and the business case doesn't stack up even with all the creative means of coming up with economic benefits.

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[Billy ray]

give it to Qatar

 

[sataris]

There's no provision in the olympic contract for anyone other than the IOC to cancel the games afaik

 

[peetoo]

More money for hobart

 

[Johnny Bananas]

There's no provision in the olympic contract for anyone other than the IOC to cancel the games afaik

1976 Winter Olympics - Wikipedia

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[Johnny Bananas]

Screw the Olympics, Brisbane needs to host the Enhanced Games!

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[Chicken Treat]

Enhanced games and the city just a few hours to the south of Brisbane are a perfect duo.

 

[Cmarsh]

Don't think there is any host city that hasn't faced skeptics amongst the "whatabout schools and hospitals" crowd.

 

[Chicken Treat]

If you support people getting billed hundreds for a trip to the dentist and $1000 for an emergency trip to the hospital by ambulance and the reduction of partially funded mental health psychologist sessions to 10......


Then STFU about spending money on the Brisbane Olympics cos 'what bout our hospitals'.

 

[Rob R]

Don't think there is any host city that hasn't faced skeptics amongst the "whatabout schools and hospitals" crowd.

And when the numbers are crunched afterwards, the sceptics are always shown to be right (ie. the game always lose money and the only winners are pollies and senior crats who enjoy all the junkets, and consultants who get richer)

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[Johnny Bananas]

If you support people getting billed hundreds for a trip to the dentist and $1000 for an emergency trip to the hospital by ambulance and the reduction of partially funded mental health psychologist sessions to 10......


Then STFU about spending money on the Brisbane Olympics cos 'what bout our hospitals'.

While I see your general point, ambulances are free to the patient in Queensland.

 

[barreness]

If you support people getting billed hundreds for a trip to the dentist and $1000 for an emergency trip to the hospital by ambulance and the reduction of partially funded mental health psychologist sessions to 10......


Then STFU about spending money on the Brisbane Olympics cos 'what bout our hospitals'.

St john of mammon

 

[Seeds]

No, they should just go back to the original plan which involved using their existing facilities with a slight spruce up, and most of the money going into transport infrastructure. All this nonsense only began when the state government decided they'd change the plan and spend billions knocking down the Gabba and rebuilding it.

People act like the Gabba is about to fall over but it's structurally sound and will be usable for decades to come. Not everything needs to be brand spanking new.

Um using existing facilities was never the plan. The original plan had them building a completely new stadium out by the airport that would never be used again.

switching to the gabba was the more economically prudent plan. But rebuilding it to only add less then 10 thousand seats is insane.

they should be rebuilding it with atleast 70000 capacity instead. Brisbane is a growing city. Its bigger then perth. Its going to need a stadium of this size in 10 years anyway.

 

[Seeds]

And when the numbers are crunched afterwards, the sceptics are always shown to be right (ie. the game always lose money and the only winners are pollies and senior crats who enjoy all the junkets, and consultants who get richer)

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Property owners are winners. house prices rise enormously before an olympics.

transport infrastructure users are also winners. olympic cities become much easier to travel around with all the new infrastructure. Improves living standards.

 

[Seeds]

100% yes, we have far higher priorities and the business case doesn't stack up even with all the creative means of coming up with economic benefits.

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Except even without the olympics the gabba needs to be rebuilt. its old and too small. Brisbane is the third biggest city in australia, growing rapidly and its main stadium is smaller then adelaides.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Um using existing facilities was never the plan. The original plan had them building a completely new stadium out by the airport that would never be used again.

switching to the gabba was the more economically prudent plan. But rebuilding it to only add less then 10 thousand seats is insane.

they should be rebuilding it with atleast 70000 capacity instead. Brisbane is a growing city. Its bigger then perth. Its going to need a stadium of this size in 10 years anyway.

You know very little about Brisbane, I see.

 

[basashi]

The Olympics are a much less important event than they were 40 or 50 years ago. Just embrace that and use existing facilities. Was in the Tokyo stadium the other day. Capacity 68k.

 

[Kram]

Worth every cent, wish Perth had got it.

 

[Rob R]

Property owners are winners. house prices rise enormously before an olympics.

transport infrastructure users are also winners. olympic cities become much easier to travel around with all the new infrastructure. Improves living standards.

Could just build the infrastructure we need rather than all the waste that goes with the games.

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[peetoo]

Yep. Olympic dick measures should realise times have changed

The Olympics are usually a sustainability disaster. Can Paris be different? — The Washington Post

Organizers of the Games have set a goal of generating no more than half the planet-warming emissions produced by other recent Summer Olympics.

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[Seeds]

Could just build the infrastructure we need rather than all the waste that goes with the games.

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Yes but that never happens