The future of the ABC - Guthrie sacked

[madmug]

I would also say that most of those who voted for Gillard would have wanted a carbon tax anyway. Just as most of those who voted for Abbott agree with cuts (as minimal as they are) to the ABC.

I think thats a fair enough call. Its our weedy politicians & shock jock media types who are wrecking our system of Gument with their news 'sound bites' mentality. They are all too stupid to see it. Its no way to run a country. Just constant reacting to the news cycle.
I'm sure if we saw them 'less' & they said 'more' then we would be in a better position.

 

[Maggie5]

You're missing the point. You wouldn't have voted for Mr Abbott anyway.

Bitching and moaning now about what the government is trying to achieve, taking into account broken promises, should be the domain of those who voted for the Coalition.

All the rest is just Abbott bashing because you can.

I think that you are missing the point. Whether you vote for him or not.
You do not expect a PM to lie and continually break promises. That is the point.
I detest liars.

 

[flaps]

For those who complain about the wages of ABC presenters, heard on the radio yesterday that an executive from another commercial TV station laughed when he read about it. Said he pays the weather presenter more than some of the (couldn't remember who he named) ABC on-air presenters. Perhaps that is why commercial TV stations aren't making money. Sometime ago, it was reported that the male presenter Karl Stefanovic was receiving a salary into the millions.

I'm not really surprised about Karl Stef. I like him as a bloke regardless of the network he's on. But that said, I could tell you how much the ABC presenters (at least where I'm at) get, but it's pretty confidential.

 

[smokingjacket]

I would also say that most of those who voted for Gillard would have wanted a carbon tax anyway. Just as most of those who voted for Abbott agree with cuts (as minimal as they are) to the ABC.

The polls and common sense would suggest otherwise. The ABC covers a wide demographic and you'd be a fool to think that a huge number of people didn't vote for the LNP in protest at Labor's leadership squabbles. That was why he made the comment in the first place.

 

[smokingjacket]

So why is Mark Scott is winding these regional services back?

Why is Mark Scott persuing a centralisation agenda into Melbourne and Sydney?

I thought that was self evident? They've had their budget cut at the same time as trying to fulfill the wishes of the Australian government and people to present Australian news domestically and internationally?

Malcolm Turnbull asked him to trim the fat. The least productive thing for the money is rural services. This is why a network operating to fix market failure can't be expected to do both and be treated like a regular business.

 

[The Coup]

Cut, then merge, then kill or sell.

Capitalist idiocy 101.

 

[flaps]

In keeping with the ABC ideology, to cover these cost cuts why dont those earning over $200k+ take a 65% pay cut, the next lower tier ($100k) 33%, and those over eighty thousand a 10% cut, to cover those about to lose their jobs? That way it brings everyone closer to their socialist utopia, of everyone being poorer for the common good. And everyone having a job, even though there is no real use for the job they have. Lol

Would you take a 65% cut in your pay to stay where you are?


....didn't think so.

I would also say that most of those who voted for Gillard would have wanted a carbon tax anyway. Just as most of those who voted for Abbott agree with cuts (as minimal as they are) to the ABC.

Highly doubtful

 

[Maggie5]

All the rest is just Abbott bashing because you can.

And I am loving it, however if he can govern for all Australians, I may tone it down just a little bit. Will be hard as I have a long memory and he is a lying worm.

 

[Maggie5]

I'm not really surprised about Karl Stef. I like him as a bloke regardless of the network he's on. But that said, I could tell you how much the ABC presenters (at least where I'm at) get, but it's pretty confidential.

Salaries of some of the ABC presenters were released by The Sun when they obtained that information under freedom of information, but squealed like pigs when their financial details (huge losses) was released by Crickey.
Still well under what the commercial presenters receive.

 

[Lester Burnham]

I thought that was self evident? They've had their budget cut at the same time as trying to fulfill the wishes of the Australian government and people to present Australian news domestically and internationally?

Malcolm Turnbull asked him to trim the fat. The least productive thing for the money is rural services. This is why a network operating to fix market failure can't be expected to do both and be treated like a regular business.

It's not self evident. I already replied to this point and now you have repeated it.

 

[Xsess]

Would you take a 65% cut in your pay to stay where you are?
....didn't think so.

Of course not, but then again I dont get paid $350k to spread socialist propoganda..

 

[Danny Cullen]

The ABC covers a wide demographic

I'll just make a general comment. I don't want my taxes paying for Al Jazeera. Why do they even appear on News 24?

 

[Maggie5]

I'll just make a general comment. I don't want my taxes paying for Al Jazeera. Why do they even appear on News 24?

Isn't that past your bed-time?
I don't want my taxes paying for the war, toll roads (no car), fuel subsidies for mining companies and farmers, etc etc. Happy to pay for ABC, nothing else to watch on TV and commercial radio is worse.

 

[Maggie5]

Of course not, but then again I dont get paid $350k to spread socialist propoganda..

So are you saying if you were paid that amount you would be happy to take a cut?

 

[Danny Cullen]

Isn't that past your bed-time?

Bloody hell.

 

[Xsess]

So are you saying if you were paid that amount you would be happy to take a cut?

I dont get paid that much but for the record I've taken a pretty hefty paycut anyway. Thats how our work managed this downturn, cuts to overtime and bonus's and staff not fully engaged were encouraged to take unpaid leave for a day or two a week. All measures to stave off retrenchments and largely supported by the workforce.

 

[Maggie5]

I dont get paid that much but for the record I've taken a pretty hefty paycut anyway. Thats how our work managed this downturn, cuts to overtime and bonus's and staff not fully engaged were encouraged to take unpaid leave for a day or two a week. All measures to stave off retrenchments and largely supported by the workforce.

Everyone has taken a cut in real terms, wages have gone down but I am sure that this government will put it right.

 

[The Coup]

The majority of Australian workers (the ones who didn't lose their jobs) have less money in their pocket today because we voted in an LNP government in Spetember 2013.

I think at this point it no longer matters what the LNP claimed to stand for before the election. A huge con occurred and even the marginal seat voters have realised that.

Sometimes when you get what you want, it isn't a good thing. The LNP are done.

 

[Mofra]

I'll give you five, Lenore Taylor, Annabel Crabb, George Megalogenis and Fran Kelly described as hard left, and Chris Uhlmann described as left. The first four, as good journalists do, give no indication of how they vote, and Uhlmann is a social conservative..

Paul Barry openly voted LNP last election and is still grouped as a "presenter from the left"

The ABC is the most scrutinized news source in the country and reviews consistently show it is an unbiased news source (although one study a few years ago showed a slight right bias). This from an organization headed by a former LNP staffer and run by a board full of conservatives - yet some will still whine about "left bias" with absolutely no substance to said whining.

 

[Danny Cullen]

Paul Barry openly voted LNP last election and is still grouped as a "presenter from the left"

Yeah, and I voted Sex Party.

Take me on my word.

 

[Gough]

Paul Barry openly voted LNP last election and is still grouped as a "presenter from the left"

The ABC is the most scrutinized news source in the country and reviews consistently show it is an unbiased news source (although one study a few years ago showed a slight right bias). This from an organization headed by a former LNP staffer and run by a board full of conservatives - yet some will still whine about "left bias" with absolutely no substance to said whining.

Shuddup, it's socialist propaganda, the Australian Pravda and no amount of evidence to the contrary can change my mind.

 

[Mofra]

Shuddup, it's socialist propaganda, the Australian Pravda and no amount of evidence to the contrary can change my mind.

Yep - the only people I know who constantly complain about ABC bias are those you'd have to describe as sitting politically to the right of those who sit politically to the right.

If there's any further doubt over that assertion - we have the BF SRP board as evidence

 

[madmug]

Of course not, but then again I dont get paid $350k to spread socialist propoganda..

More crap from the Troll.

 

[Gough]

Yep - the only people I know who constantly complain about ABC bias are those you'd have to describe as sitting politically to the right of those who sit politically to the right.

If there's any further doubt over that assertion - we have the BF SRP board as evidence

Those that regarded Maggie Thatcher as a dangerous liberal.

 

[Danny Cullen]

If you look at it objectively, the ABC is a black hole for taxpayers money.

News 24 v News Radio - Keep radio can the the channel. Lots of savings.
Why on earth do we have ABC 2 and ABC 3?? Put the kids shows back on ABC ! at appropriate times and can at least one (preferably both) of these channels.
There is no need for regional radio. This can be handled by city central in each state (a lot of the time they broadcast the city station anyway). An hour or two a week on regional issues would suffice. Rotate through the regions on a daily basis. Don't bleat about fire warnings and such. Can be broadcast centrally.
Get rid of The Drum website. Overpays lefty people for columns to AbbottAbbottAbbott666.
There is no need for a website for, well I don't know what it is for - every TV and radio show they have.

Keep Drew Morphett.

I have just saved half a billion dollars.